Re: Announcing the Cyrus Foundation and development plans for 2015
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015, at 12:13 AM, Patrick Boutilier wrote: > "We'll probably be discarding a ton of configuration options in exchange > for simplicity and reliability." > > > Will this involve discarding functionality? Hopefully not too much, but some unloved things like nntpd might go, particularly if they require code support and inefficiencies for everything else. A lot of what I want to lose it things like hashimapspool and fulldirhash which translate basically to "destroy my system" if you fiddle them, and which are attractive little knobs that people like to try to micro-optimimise. We should pick one sane default and just use it. We can have cyr_info spit out the correct path to use for a mailbox in all cases. Bron. -- Bron Gondwana br...@fastmail.fm Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/info-cyrus
Re: Announcing the Cyrus Foundation and development plans for 2015
On 02/19/2015 05:32 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote: [Sorry for the late delivery of this email, I've spoken a bit about this on IRC already, and the first meeting is in less than 24 hours, but I've been swamped by emergency other work.] Late last year a few of us formed a plan. A non-profit foundation (incorporated in Canada because that's where our biggest sponsor is based) and some real resources to take Cyrus from its current status as a great project that's hard to manage and not well documented into a well rounded product that can compete with other proprietary or free solutions without needing a "Cyrus expert" on staff. I posted my giant wishlist/roadmap last year, and we will be picking the highest value items from that list to release as Cyrus 3.0 this year. We have resources. As well as Ken Murchison at CMU and myself at FastMail who have been doing this a while, we two dedicated developers who will be working entirely on this project (Anthony in Canada and Ellie in Melbourne), and volunteers putting in whatever time they can as well. I've also grabbed part-time commitments from a few of the FastMail staff to help out. With these resources available, I propose a very aggressive timeline: March 1st: Cyrus 2.5 release. I'll cut a beta tomorrow, and then another one next Friday. Get your testing on :) The goal is to be a clean upgrade path from 2.4, incorporating many of the fixes since then which were too invasive to backport, but no surprises. (... every 2 weeks or so, a new 2.5 point release with bugfixes) May 1st: Cyrus 3.0 technology preview. I will present this at the Kolab summit in The Hauge on the 2nd-3rd, with whatever is ready by this time. July 20th: Cyrus 3.0 release. We'll have Docker Images / Virtual Machines / Packages for major operating systems/distributions, along with the documentation to set up a working mail system. This will be quite opinionated. Cyrus 3.0 will be quite opinionated. We'll probably be discarding a ton of configuration options in exchange for simplicity and reliability. And we won't stop there, but that's as far as I'm planning today. KICKOFF MEETING: We will hold our first meeting as the new Cyrus team at 10am Melbourne time tomorrow, Friday 20th. Timezone info: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Cyrus+Kickoff+Meeting&iso=20150220T10&p1=152&ah=1 or http://goo.gl/ryQToF Video/Audio chat via appearin: https://appear.in/cyrus Side channel will be the #cyrus IRC channel on Freenode: https://cyrusimap.org/mediawiki/index.php/Cyrus_IRC Minutes will be posted to the cyrus-devel mailing list: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/cyrus-devel Everybody is welcome to join in, either via IRC or video. Please use a headset and remain muted when you aren't speaking - and we may find that we have most people turn off video depending on how everyone's bandwidth goes. We find it works quite well with just audio. I will have a webcam pointing at the big whiteboard in the FastMail boardroom, and use that for note taking. There will be a scribe in IRC as well. It's not a big deal if you can't make it. I'm planning to do two meetings per week, one on Tuesday and one on Friday Australian time (Monday/Thursday for Europe/US) as well as setting aside a couple of blocks of "office hours" when I am available for anyone who has questions - either development or operational. I'm really excited about this new phase of Cyrus development, and I look forward to working with everyone and doing great things! Cheers, Bron. "We'll probably be discarding a ton of configuration options in exchange for simplicity and reliability." Will this involve discarding functionality? <> Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/info-cyrus
Announcing the Cyrus Foundation and development plans for 2015
[Sorry for the late delivery of this email, I've spoken a bit about this on IRC already, and the first meeting is in less than 24 hours, but I've been swamped by emergency other work.] Late last year a few of us formed a plan. A non-profit foundation (incorporated in Canada because that's where our biggest sponsor is based) and some real resources to take Cyrus from its current status as a great project that's hard to manage and not well documented into a well rounded product that can compete with other proprietary or free solutions without needing a "Cyrus expert" on staff. I posted my giant wishlist/roadmap last year, and we will be picking the highest value items from that list to release as Cyrus 3.0 this year. We have resources. As well as Ken Murchison at CMU and myself at FastMail who have been doing this a while, we two dedicated developers who will be working entirely on this project (Anthony in Canada and Ellie in Melbourne), and volunteers putting in whatever time they can as well. I've also grabbed part-time commitments from a few of the FastMail staff to help out. With these resources available, I propose a very aggressive timeline: March 1st: Cyrus 2.5 release. I'll cut a beta tomorrow, and then another one next Friday. Get your testing on :) The goal is to be a clean upgrade path from 2.4, incorporating many of the fixes since then which were too invasive to backport, but no surprises. (... every 2 weeks or so, a new 2.5 point release with bugfixes) May 1st: Cyrus 3.0 technology preview. I will present this at the Kolab summit in The Hauge on the 2nd-3rd, with whatever is ready by this time. July 20th: Cyrus 3.0 release. We'll have Docker Images / Virtual Machines / Packages for major operating systems/distributions, along with the documentation to set up a working mail system. This will be quite opinionated. Cyrus 3.0 will be quite opinionated. We'll probably be discarding a ton of configuration options in exchange for simplicity and reliability. And we won't stop there, but that's as far as I'm planning today. KICKOFF MEETING: We will hold our first meeting as the new Cyrus team at 10am Melbourne time tomorrow, Friday 20th. Timezone info: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Cyrus+Kickoff+Meeting&iso=20150220T10&p1=152&ah=1 or http://goo.gl/ryQToF Video/Audio chat via appearin: https://appear.in/cyrus Side channel will be the #cyrus IRC channel on Freenode: https://cyrusimap.org/mediawiki/index.php/Cyrus_IRC Minutes will be posted to the cyrus-devel mailing list: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/cyrus-devel Everybody is welcome to join in, either via IRC or video. Please use a headset and remain muted when you aren't speaking - and we may find that we have most people turn off video depending on how everyone's bandwidth goes. We find it works quite well with just audio. I will have a webcam pointing at the big whiteboard in the FastMail boardroom, and use that for note taking. There will be a scribe in IRC as well. It's not a big deal if you can't make it. I'm planning to do two meetings per week, one on Tuesday and one on Friday Australian time (Monday/Thursday for Europe/US) as well as setting aside a couple of blocks of "office hours" when I am available for anyone who has questions - either development or operational. I'm really excited about this new phase of Cyrus development, and I look forward to working with everyone and doing great things! Cheers, Bron. -- Bron Gondwana br...@fastmail.fm Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/info-cyrus
