Re: Update from cyrus-imapd 2.5 to 3.0

2017-06-27 Thread Simon Matter
> In my "dhill" mailbox, I no longer see my folders and if I create a new
> folder in that mailbox, let's say "Sent", it'll create it this way:
>
> [root@zappa Sent]# ls -atlr
> total 20
> drwx--. 3 cyrus mail 4096 Jun 20 04:44 ..
> -rw---. 1 cyrus mail  166 Jun 20 04:44 cyrus.header
> -rw---. 1 cyrus mail  336 Jun 20 04:45 cyrus.annotations
> drwx--. 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jun 20 04:45 .
> -rw---. 1 cyrus mail  128 Jun 27 10:57 cyrus.index
> [root@zappa Sent]# pwd
> /var/spool/imap/s/Sent
>
> Instead of
> /var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Sent ...

You should check the 'fulldirhash' and 'hashimapspool' settings in
imapd.conf. They influence it.

Regards,
Simon

> Dave
>
>
>
> On 2017-06-27 12:20 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>>> "DH" == David Hill  writes:
>> DH> Also, if a folder is created, it is created in
>> DH> /var/spool/imap/[first_letter_of_folder]/Junk instead of
>> DH> /var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Junk ...
>>
>> In your bug you indicated that things were being stored under
>> /var/spool/[first letter]/ in the previous version.  Here you say they
>> were being stored under /var/spool/imap/first letter]/.  Perhaps that's
>> why my responses to you in the bugzilla ticket are so confused.
>>
>> Maybe it would be better if you could provide more explicit information
>> in some way.  Like, a directory listing or something.
>>
>>   - J<
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Re: About upgrade and building without caldav/carddav server

2017-06-27 Thread Nic Bernstein

Egoitz,
Some important notes on this upgrade.  Firstly, I have followed this 
path for a client, and it does work.  Secondly, you should read not just 
the Upgrade document to which Nicola has linked (below) but also read 
the release notes for all intermediary versions.


You can find those here:
https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/download/release-notes/index.html

It's always best practice to read intermediary release notes, as changes 
made in one version (i.e. 2.4.0) may not be mentioned in a later 
version's release notes.


For example, the release notes for 2.4.0 contain this note:

 * All databases are now default skiplist, and ctl_cyrusdb will
   automatically convert database type on startup.

That's a really good thing, but if you previously set your database 
types to something other than the default, then they will not be 
converted (maybe you didn't do so, but your packages may have).  As the 
Upgrade document notes, in that case you should convert your DB formats 
to a default /before/ you copy them to the new server, using cvt_cyrusdb 
(for example):


   cvt_cyrusdb //mailboxes.db berkeley /tmp/new-mailboxes.db skiplist

Another big note is that with 3.0.X, the Squat full-text indexing engine 
may be replaced with Xapian.  Check your packaging or build for that.  
If it is, you'll need to rebuild your indexes before people can use them.


Similarly, the main Cyrus index scheme has changed between 2.3 and 2.4, 
and then again with 2.5 and 3.0.  You can upgrade from 2.3 to 3.0, and 
it does so very nicely, but while a 3.0 server can read the older index 
formats, you won't get the best behavior or performance.  Run the 
command 'reconstruct -V max' either just like that (upgrade all 
mailbox's indices) or within a script which walks through your user list.


Lastly, please get yourself logged in to #cyrus on IRC so you can get 
support while you're working.  Try a dry run with just a couple of users 
or mailboxes, to see what you might face, and don't be afraid to ask for 
help.  I've been working with Cyrus for twenty years, and I still ask 
for help all the time (just ask the folks on this list!). :-)


Cheers,
-nic

On 06/27/2017 06:36 PM, Nicola Nye wrote:




By the way, when upgrading from a 2.3.1X server... can you directly 
install a 3.0 in the server and should it work?. Is it recommended 
to perhaps go thought the 2.5 version, reconvert


databases to suit it's needs (the 2.5 needs) and later pass to 3.0?.



I have no experience with upgrading from 2.3 to 3.0, so can't help 
you with that.


When writing the Upgrade documentation 
(https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/download/upgrade.html) we did discuss 
whether you had to go through intermediate versions on the way to 3.0, 
and the answer is a 'no'! You should be able to go from 2.3 to 3.0 in 
one hit.


As always, make sure you have backups of your data before you begin 
the upgrade.


Let us know how it goes!

Nicola




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Re: About upgrade and building without caldav/carddav server

2017-06-27 Thread Nicola Nye

> 
>> By the way, when upgrading from a 2.3.1X server... can you directly
>> install a 3.0 in the server and should it work?. Is it recommended to
>> perhaps go thought the 2.5 version, reconvert>> databases to suit it's needs 
>> (the 2.5 needs) and later pass to 3.0?.> 
> I have no experience with upgrading from 2.3 to 3.0, so can't help you
> with that.
When writing the Upgrade documentation
(https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/download/upgrade.html) we did discuss
whether you had to go through intermediate versions on the way to
3.0, and the answer is a 'no'! You should be able to go from 2.3 to
3.0 in one hit.
As always, make sure you have backups of your data before you begin
the upgrade.
Let us know how it goes!

Nicola


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Re: Update from cyrus-imapd 2.5 to 3.0

2017-06-27 Thread David Hill
In my "dhill" mailbox, I no longer see my folders and if I create a new 
folder in that mailbox, let's say "Sent", it'll create it this way:


[root@zappa Sent]# ls -atlr
total 20
drwx--. 3 cyrus mail 4096 Jun 20 04:44 ..
-rw---. 1 cyrus mail  166 Jun 20 04:44 cyrus.header
-rw---. 1 cyrus mail  336 Jun 20 04:45 cyrus.annotations
drwx--. 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jun 20 04:45 .
-rw---. 1 cyrus mail  128 Jun 27 10:57 cyrus.index
[root@zappa Sent]# pwd
/var/spool/imap/s/Sent

Instead of
/var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Sent ...

Dave



On 2017-06-27 12:20 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

"DH" == David Hill  writes:

DH> Also, if a folder is created, it is created in
DH> /var/spool/imap/[first_letter_of_folder]/Junk instead of
DH> /var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Junk ...

In your bug you indicated that things were being stored under
/var/spool/[first letter]/ in the previous version.  Here you say they
were being stored under /var/spool/imap/first letter]/.  Perhaps that's
why my responses to you in the bugzilla ticket are so confused.

Maybe it would be better if you could provide more explicit information
in some way.  Like, a directory listing or something.

  - J<



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Re: Update from cyrus-imapd 2.5 to 3.0

2017-06-27 Thread David Hill

Hello guys,

   I think I found the issue which was "unixhierarchysep" default 
setting change and the RPM update that would not warn me about that. I'm 
pretty sure I've tried and it didn't work but it might be a honest human 
mistake.


Thank you very much,

David Hill


On 2017-06-27 12:20 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

"DH" == David Hill  writes:

DH> Also, if a folder is created, it is created in
DH> /var/spool/imap/[first_letter_of_folder]/Junk instead of
DH> /var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Junk ...

In your bug you indicated that things were being stored under
/var/spool/[first letter]/ in the previous version.  Here you say they
were being stored under /var/spool/imap/first letter]/.  Perhaps that's
why my responses to you in the bugzilla ticket are so confused.

Maybe it would be better if you could provide more explicit information
in some way.  Like, a directory listing or something.

  - J<



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Re: Update from cyrus-imapd 2.5 to 3.0

2017-06-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "DH" == David Hill  writes:

DH> Also, if a folder is created, it is created in
DH> /var/spool/imap/[first_letter_of_folder]/Junk instead of
DH> /var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Junk ...

In your bug you indicated that things were being stored under
/var/spool/[first letter]/ in the previous version.  Here you say they
were being stored under /var/spool/imap/first letter]/.  Perhaps that's
why my responses to you in the bugzilla ticket are so confused.

Maybe it would be better if you could provide more explicit information
in some way.  Like, a directory listing or something.

 - J<

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Update from cyrus-imapd 2.5 to 3.0

2017-06-27 Thread David Hill

Hi guys,

   I've recently updated cyrus-imapd from 2.5 to 3.0 and for some 
reasons, all the INBOXes are lacking their mails and subfolders. Also, 
if a folder is created, it is created in 
/var/spool/imap/[first_letter_of_folder]/Junk instead of 
/var/spool/imap/d/user/dhill/Junk ...   I've followed all the upgrade 
procedures from the website and opened a BZ with rawhide [1].


Is this a bug or am I missing something?

Thank you very much,

David Hill

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463160

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Re: About upgrade and building without caldav/carddav server

2017-06-27 Thread Robert Stepanek
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017, at 14:57, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote:
> Is it possible to build Cyrus IMAP 3.0 without Caldav/Carddav server?.
> I say this because we have been using Davical from some time now, have
> all development and all done for it. Can it be build without it?.
Caldav/Carddav is only built into Cyrus if you pass the --enable-http
flag to the configure script. Even if HTTP support is built in, Cyrus
won't claim any HTTP/HTTPS standard port, as long as the 'http' service
is not enabled in the SERVICES section of cyrus.conf (note that '#'
character at the start of the line):
# httpcmd="httpd" listen="http" prefork=0

If you want to use some of Cyrus HTTP services on a non-standard port,
change the 'listen' parameter to whatever port you prefer. Make sure the
HTTP services you want from Cyrus are enabled in the 'httpmodules'
parameter in imapd.conf.
> By the way, when upgrading from a 2.3.1X server... can you directly
> install a 3.0 in the server and should it work?. Is it recommended to
> perhaps go thought the 2.5 version, reconvert> databases to suit it's needs 
> (the 2.5 needs) and later pass to 3.0?.
I have no experience with upgrading from 2.3 to 3.0, so can't help you
with that.
Cheers,
Robert

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