Re: test email

2007-06-27 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 27 June 2007 13:12, Timo Schoeler wrote:
 hi spammers,

 please address me -- like to see if Cizcoooess' CSC sucks or not... :)

How is this relevant at all to this list?

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Re: groups, members, LDAP and ptloader

2007-05-30 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 09:04, Toschi Pietro wrote:
 Is there somebody on this list so kind and please try to explain me what
 I'm missing? 

You're not the only one lost with all of this. I hope someone can at least 
post a working configuration that shows using LDAP without saslauthd so that 
I would at least know what a working config looks like.

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Re: groups, members, LDAP and ptloader

2007-05-30 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 14:30, Milen Dimov wrote:
 We successfully run cyrus 2.2.12 and 2.3.8 both with LDAP users
 authentication and authorization utilizing respectively saslauthd and
 ptloader with LDAP support.

I was under the impression that you could avoid saslauthd for authentication. 
Is this impression true?

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Re: Is it possible to run a mailserver on a remote pc which doesn't have DNS server on it ?

2007-04-05 Thread Warren Turkal
On Thursday 05 April 2007 03:08, JOYDEEP wrote:
 I also like to know about any free web-based tool which can let me
 configured the DNS and mail related setting in that remote server.

A DNS service doesn't have to run on the same box as an email server. However, 
in order for mail to be routed to your server, you must be running a DNS 
server that hosts your domain information. Please email in private if you 
want any more info as this is really off-topic for this list.

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Re: New messages stop showing up in Outlook 2000 SP3

2007-02-12 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 12 February 2007 10:56, James Miller wrote:
 So, I'm not sure if this is an Outlook issue or cyrus-imap issue -- I'm
 leaning towards it being something wrong with that profile on Outlook since
 if he switches to Tbird all of the messages show up just fine -- and I had
 him create a profile on my instance of Outlook and all the messages showed
 up as well.

What version of Outlook do you use? Didn't 2000 have a limitation of folder 
size? Having said that, discussing Outlook is probably off-topic for this 
list.

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Re: NFSv4, anyone?

2006-11-29 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 09:55, Paul Dekkers wrote:
 I took some time to try the Linux nfs4 client (RHEL4) with a Solaris 10
 nfs4 server (default install) instead of the RHEL4 server. I copied over
 my spool, started cyrus... and this is actually more dramatic.

What kernel version is RHEL4 using? If I am not mistaken, there are some 
fairly serious issued with RHEL4's kernel and NFSv4. Try making the server 
export it in sync mode and see if that does anything for you.

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Re: command-line sieve client that supports TLS

2006-11-13 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 13 November 2006 12:44, Wolfgang Hennerbichler wrote:
 Is there a command-line TLS-enabled tool out there?

It looks like the GNU Mailutils has a binary called sieve. Maybe it supports 
TLS?

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Re: Web interface, Sendmail compatible

2006-11-13 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 13 November 2006 14:24, Res wrote:
 Looking for a web management interface to cyrus-imap, one that allows
 domain admins to add/del email accounts etc.  Cyrus-Imap 2.3 + Sendmail
 The ones we've found on google all seem to refer to exim or postfix.

Check out gosa at [1].

[1]https://gosa.gonicus.de/

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Re: example LDIF for senmdail/cyrus-imap?

2006-10-30 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 30 October 2006 13:04, Paul Pruett wrote:
 I think I need an example
 LDIF that will create the hierarchical directory service structure useful
 for sendmail and cyrus-imap and helpful an LDIF example to populate it with
 some email accounts?

Check out the migration-tools scripts @ [1].

[1]http://www.padl.com/OSS/MigrationTools.html

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Re: Too slow

2006-10-25 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 20:20, Marten Lehmann wrote:
 did you use an ext3 partition with dir_index before? I'm just asking
 because we are at a similar point and need to make a decision. All
 benchmarks I know of don't show that XFS actually performs faster than a
 modern ext3. Actually, with many concurrent reads and writes, ext3 seem
 to perform better, but only according to benchmarks.
 I cannot tell from an own installation. A switch from ext3 to XFS would
 be a big step for us, because we have to take care for about 13,000
 mailboxes. So I want to be really sure if it is the right step.

XFS may be faster _until_ it craps out. I have had two (not one) instances of 
a '.' directory entry being removed from a particular directory and fsck.xfs 
not being able to repair it caused the need for reinstallation. Doing 
anything in the directory caused the FS to be unmounted due to detecting an 
inconsistency in the FS.  This happened to my /var partition on both 
occasions. Granted, it happened on a laptop during a suspend resume both 
times, but it does not instill confidence that it is not robust enough to 
stand up to this, not to mention unexpected power offs and the like. Also, 
the XFS developers are no longer paid by SGI to do XFS from what I 
understand, so that's another strike.

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Re: renaming a mailbox fails

2006-10-19 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 18:34, Marten Lehmann wrote:
  Set 'allowusermoves' to '1' in imapd.conf?
 However, I still get renamemailbox: Operation is not supported on
 mailbox as soon as I try to rename out of the user/ prefix. Is there

Did you restart cyrus after changing the config?

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Re: Webmail

2006-10-17 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 16 October 2006 16:47, Zachariah Mully wrote:
 Yes, that's what I was alluding to... Outlook+Horde+Kolab does not work
 well at all.

Cyrus does seem to work pretty well with Egroupware.

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log entry question

2006-10-12 Thread Warren Turkal
Oct 12 16:13:54 coryanthes cyrus/imap[9053]: TLS server engine: No CA file 
specified. Client side certs may not work

I am guessing that the previous log entry is due to the fact that I don't use 
certificate authentication with my imap clients. It it possible to stop cyrus 
from outputting this message by configuring it to not use certificate 
authentication?

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Re: tls_ca_path and tls_ca_file

2006-10-10 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 10:50, Andreas Benzing wrote:
 could please somebody tell me what tls_ca_path is good for if it is
 somehow ignored in the config file? For other servers putting the
 different CA-certs in one directory is enough but cyrus needs an extra
 file with all of them in a single file. Shouldn't this be the sense of
 tls_ca_path?

Are you sure that you don't just have to run c_rehash in the directory with 
the certs?

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Re: how to specify trusted hosts for lmtp

2006-10-09 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 09 October 2006 01:51, Ramprasad wrote:
I want to deliver mails directly to lmtp from a remote MTA. I want
 cyrus lmtpd to trust the particular host
 How is this configured ?

I believe you must setup hosts.allow with rules to allow the trusted host to 
connect.

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Re: Grep mails by subject with shell script

2006-09-12 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 08:03, Walter Willmertinger wrote:
 I would like to do it e.g. in shell scripts!

Cyrus is a closed system. If you want the functionality, use a MUA that has 
it. You might try something like fetchmail to sync up a local mail spool.

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Re: Grep mails by subject with shell script

2006-09-12 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 10:14, you wrote:
 So do you or someone else know of a command line mail reader where I can
 scan my mails for some criteria?

 I know I can search mails e.g. with thunderbird. But I want to do it with
 shell scripts under linux to make some evaluations and generate lists.

Fetchmail can connect to a IMAP server and pull the mail down to a mbox or 
maildir. This is probably the most general thing. Mail can then be 
manipulated with local tools.

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Re: Problem with Cyrus

2006-09-07 Thread Warren Turkal
On Thursday 07 September 2006 06:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet ps3151.persistent.co.in
 imap
 Trying 10.77.196.105...
 Connected to ps3151.persistent.co.in
 (10.77.196.105).
 Escape character is '^]'.

 Nothing more than that. If I type some command, that
 is not executed. Both the services cyrus-imapd and
 saslauthd are running.  Please guide.

I run Debian and Cyrus is broken into more than one package. I had to make 
sure cyrus-imapd-2.2 was installed to get imap functionality. Are you sure 
that the IMAP component of cyrus exists on your system?

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Re: Am I using the correct commands to generate the certificates?

2006-07-12 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:32, Jim John wrote:
  Thereis only 3 files in /etc/ssl/private

I would check your permissions. On Debian, that directory is 660 with 
root:ssl-cert ownership. Maybe you could an ACL if I want other users to be 
able to look in there like the following:

setfacl -m u:cyrus:rx /etc/ssl/private/

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Re: Subscribe as admin for a user?

2006-07-12 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 09:48, Jason Englander wrote:
 Anyone know of a perl module or php function that will let the cyrus
 administrator-user subscribe a mailbox for a user without
 authenticating as that user and without using autocreate?

The cyradm tool and something like expect should be able to be used for this 
purpose. You can just authz as the user.

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debian etch, ldap, and cyrus 2.2

2006-07-06 Thread Warren Turkal
Is it possible to run cyrus 2.2 on Debian Etch with LDAP auth and allow 
something other than plaintext auth methods? I am using saslauthd (thus 
limiting myself to plaintext), but I see something called pts in the 
imapd.conf man page that seems to be able to use ldap. However, I am not 
really sure how to set it up or if it is what I am looking for.

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Re: discrepancies between observed disk usage and reported disk space

2006-06-18 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 14:52, Aaron Bennett wrote:
 Any thoughts?

I think most of this is caused by the metadata maintained by cyrus. I have 
similar discrepencies on my systems.

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Re: Looking for a *good* X based GUI IMAP client for Cyrus IMAP ...

2006-06-10 Thread Warren Turkal
On Saturday 10 June 2006 15:49, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 The least sucky email client I have tried so far is KMail.

I have to concur. I use Kmail via Kontact almost exclusively.

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Re: Replicate to more than one replica?

2006-06-06 Thread Warren Turkal
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:56, David Korpiewski wrote:
 (3) sync_host: lmc1.cs.umass.edu, lmc2.cs.umass.edu

I have never messed with the replication, but does a space rather than a comma 
work?

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Re: Outlook does not delete but displays deleted messages asstrike-trough

2006-05-22 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 22 May 2006 09:43, Simon Matter wrote:
 Isn't the default policy to move to trash in Outlook? I think that way you
 can handle it without having the people to purge messages by hand.

No. The default in Outlook with an IMAP account is that it just strikes out 
the message in your message list. It's the most rediculous thing I have seen 
considering how every other email client out there works.

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Re: Outlook does not delete but displays deleted messages asstrike-trough

2006-05-22 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 22 May 2006 10:45, you wrote:
 I'm not sure I understand why you think marking deleted messages is  
 so bad. Have you never accidentally deleted the wrong message? Only  
 to have it totally disappear, so you're not SURE what you deleted?  
 I'd much rather have closer control over what my mail program is  
 doing...

My email clients put deleted messages into a trash bin. I can go there to 
retrieve messages. The fact of the matter is that most of the time someone 
deletes a message, they mean to do it. I believe that having an undo in case 
someone deletes the message accidentally is important. I just think the way 
that feature is implemented in Outlook for IMAP cripples the common use case 
where someone means to delete a message.

Outlook does a very sane thing with POP mail. It moves the message to the 
trash folder. It does something similar when using an Exchange server. The 
only time that it exhibits the weird behavior is when interacting with an 
IMAP server.

Outlook has many other problems also. Think about this one. If you only have 
an IMAP email account, you would probably want to show the inbox for that 
IMAP account by default. The only way to change the default folder for 
Outlook is to start editing registry keys. Why would something like that not 
be configurable within the program?

I personally think that Outlook does what it can to make its users depend on 
Exchange since IMAP provides nearly all of the mail related benefits of using 
Exchange from the client perspective. When using Exchange, for instance, your 
mail magically pops up in the main inbox. It would be nice to be able to use 
IMAP in a mode like that. Maybe one should be able to tell Outlook that the 
IMAP is the only account and have it treated as such.

Of course, to be fair, all mail clients have their issues. For one example, 
Mail.app, the Mac OS X client, removes all messages in your inbox associated 
with a particular POP account when you delete the account. This doesn't make 
sense since the message are downloaded and more than likely erased from the 
server.

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Re: Outlook does not delete but displays deleted messages asstrike-trough

2006-05-22 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 22 May 2006 10:29, Joseph Brennan wrote:
 Both clients I use show deleted messages with a line through them, and
 neither one is Outlook.  Why would you call this ridiculous?  It's easy
 to undelete by highlighting one and clicking undelete.  And it reminds
 me they're still taking up space, which nudges me to expunge them every
 so often.  I like controlling when my messages get wiped out.

Clearly, there are two schools of thought here, and I totally see why this 
makes sense. I also know that this mode of operation is unacceptable to my 
users, and I have to set up the Outlook users with POP so that it acts like 
they expect with the trash folder.

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Re: Outlook does not delete but displays deleted messages asstrike-trough

2006-05-17 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:35, James Yale wrote:
 There is an option (I believe under Edit) to 'Purge deleted messages'
 which permanently deletes messages marked as to be deleted - is this
 what you were after?

Is this considered to be good UI design by anyone? Or, is IMAP support just 
crippled in Outlook? BTW, the Mac version of Outlook (Entourage or whatever 
its called) also seems to have this behavior also.

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hot backups

2006-03-31 Thread Warren Turkal
I know this is a perennial question, but I wanted to see if the following 
strategy would work for a hot backup for Cyrus.

1. SIGSTOP all process with the pgrp of cyrmaster
2. ctl_cyrusdb -c
 - optionally ctl_mboxlist -d here
3. create lvm ro snapshot
4. SIGCONT the processes with pgrp of cyrmaster
5. mount the snapshot
6. backup the snapshot
7. umount the snapshot
8. remove the snapshot

I guess my only question is does cyrus do database commits with ACID 
semantics? If it does, then SIGSTOPping and ctl_cyrusdb -c should cause it to 
be as quiesced as possible. Creating the snapshot and SIGCONTing the 
processes should happen fast enough that TCP connections shouldn't time out.

As an aside, does an lvm2 snapshot have a maximum size. Anything above 512MB 
seems to be failing for me.

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