Re: MUPDATE master server
Thanks for the answer. I was reading the IMAP Aggregoatr: A Murder of IMAP Servers (ag.html) that's why I didn't find my answer in that document. So if I can only have one single MUPDATE master server the others would be slaves right ? What would then happen to mails when the MUPDATE master server goes down ? Will mail be undelivered and be bounced back ? I would like to avoid the MUPDATE master server to become the single point of failure. Regards Marc Rob Siemborski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mu.edu Subject: Re: MUPDATE master server 03/07/03 05:04 PM On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit confused on where should be ran the MUPDATE master server, should it be running on a Front End server, Back End Server or maybe a seperate server ? The documentation is not very explicit about this I think. From the documentation (install-murder.html): * One machine to become the MUPDATE master server. This can be the same as one of your frontend servers. Presumably you could also run it on a backend with a separate imapd.conf file. Also is it possible to have two MUPDATE master servers for redundancy ? No. I am looking to the best way to get a maximum of redundancy and high availabilty between two different geographical sites where we would be running Cyrus v2.2. Are there maybe any examples around ? The murder won't increase your redundancy. It will only reduce the impact of a failure. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: MUPDATE master server
Its possible. Make sure you understand that you're doing this for the shared namespace though, otherwise you almost certainly want a more traditional IMAP proxy like perdition. The main advantage that we are interested in is that we would have two IMAP connection points for clients located in two different geographical locations. The user which would connect wouldn't care at which locations he connects to the front end server because the frontend server would know on which back end server his mailbox is. I think you should be sure Murder is what you want before you jump into it. It solves a very special problem that most people don't have. I think I will wait until Murder gets some kind of replication integrated as that would really give a big plus to the whole concept. You would then also have high availability. Thanks again for your comments Regards Marc
Re: virtual domains in Cyrus 2.2
If you have the 2.2 code, its doc/install-virtdomains.html (linked from doc/install.html). Otherwise, you get get it from CVSweb: http://bugzilla.andrew.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/cyrus/doc/Attic/install-virtdomains.html?rev=1.1.2.5content-type=text/htmlhideattic=0 Well I have checked out branch cyrus-imapd-2_2 from CVS but the install-virtdomains.html doc was not there, did i check out the wrong branch maybe ? The document is still a little sparse. I haven't touched this doc in quite a while and need to get back to it soon. Yes, you need the fully qualified username passed in RCPT TO. Users in the defaultdomain (if configured) can be passed unqualified. The documentation is enough to start with, now I was just wondering if Sendmail per default passes the fully qualified username, I don't think so. Do you know how to make it pass the FQ username ? That would be a little point to add into the documentation I think. Thanks for the help Regards
virtual domains in Cyrus 2.2
Hello, Is there any documentation around on how to use the virual domains feature which is available in Cyrus 2.2 from CVS ? If no, could maybe someone tell me how do I enable this ? Another question regarding this feature, from the MTA point of view does that mean that the MTA needs to pass the account name as the full email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ? I am asking this because then I will need to change my virtualuser table and such, right ? Thanks Regards
Re: cvs cyrus-imapd-2_2 and quota with virualdomain
Hi, From the previous posts in this mailing list about virutal domains I can remember reading something about running mkimap before you could setup virtual domain mailboxes... Try to browse this mailing list with some keywords like virtual domains... I guess that's your problem. Regards Marc Vittorio Manfredini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: cvs cyrus-imapd-2_2 and quota with virualdomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 01/21/03 11:10 AM I just install to test the cvs version and I activate it on a machine using a virtual domain. All seem to work fine, but when I try to set quota on a virtual domain mailbox I have an I/O error. When I read the log file I found this error : Jan 21 11:08:06 www imap[1614]: IOERROR: creating quota file /var/imap/domain/S/dotalia.com/quota/P/user.franro.NEW: No such file or directory dotalia.com is the virtual domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the user name what is strange is that the directory /var/imap/domain/S/ is empty, because the domain was created under /var/imap/domain/d/ It is a bug or maybe I did same error with the configuration ? vittorio - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: cyrus as trusted user in sendmail
Hi Igor, Exaclty it's sieve mails which have the sendmail warning header because of the use of the -f flag, thanks ! I will go and fix my trusted users... Regards Marc Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t Subject: Re: cyrus as trusted user in sendmail 01/20/03 03:09 AM Please respond to info-cyrus On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if sendmail references files owned by the cyrus username. lmtp socket may qualify depending on your setup. Are there no cases where cyrus itselfs submits messages using directly /usr/lib/sendmail ? I would like to avoid the warning header sendmail used Sieve does that. In this case you need to add the cyrus user to trusted users list in the MSP config (submit.cf). Notice trusted users list as opposed trusted user. Two different things. the -f flag to send the from address. How does then Cyrus send it's auto-generataed failure messages like when there are no mailbox at address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? lmtp will tell sendmail that such an address is not there and sendmail will send a bounce message back to the sender (MSP is not in the loop here). -- Igor
Pre-forking strange behaviour
Hello, I've just remarked a strange behaviour of the master process presumably. I am using the same cyrus.conf as the prefork.conf example configuration file. So now what I've remarked is that just after starting cyrus's master process it starts the following processes: hostname% ps -fu cyrus UID PID PPID CSTIME TTY TIME CMD cyrus 855 846 0 23:15:12 pts/10:00 lmtpd cyrus 852 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 imapd -s cyrus 854 846 0 23:15:12 pts/10:00 pop3d -s cyrus 853 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 pop3d cyrus 850 846 0 0:00 defunct cyrus 851 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 846 1 0 23:15:10 pts/10:00 /opt/cyrimap/bin/master As you can see here the is a zombie process defunct and it didn't fork the processes correctly as in the config file (5 imapd, 3 pop3, and so on). But after waiting 1 or sometimes 2 minutes then it forks all the required processes correctly as you can see here: hostname% ps -fu cyrus UID PID PPID CSTIME TTY TIME CMD cyrus 859 846 0 23:17:28 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 861 846 0 23:17:28 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 864 846 0 23:17:29 pts/10:00 pop3d cyrus 863 846 0 23:17:29 pts/10:00 pop3d cyrus 855 846 0 23:15:12 pts/10:00 lmtpd cyrus 862 846 0 23:17:29 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 852 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 imapd -s cyrus 860 846 0 23:17:28 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 854 846 0 23:15:12 pts/10:00 pop3d -s cyrus 853 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 pop3d cyrus 851 846 0 23:15:11 pts/10:00 imapd cyrus 846 1 0 23:15:10 pts/10:00 /opt/cyrimap/bin/master So seeing this behaviour I wanted to ask on this mailing list if this is a normal behaviour ? I am not so sure but I would say no. At least everything works fine... but I don't think this is normal. As OS I am using Solaris 9 on a Sun box. Many thanks Regards
Re: Websieve and Cyrus 2.1.11 (smartsieve doesn't work neither)
Check the user's sieve directory (eg /usr/sieve/k/ken), and make sure there is a link from 'default' to an actual script file. You should see something like: lrwxrwxrwx1 cyrusmail 10 Nov 10 2001 default - ken.script -rw---1 cyrusmail 8877 Jan 8 16:19 ken.script I've checked and this gets done correctly, now I think I found out my problem. When I did my tests I used the same account to send mail to myself and it looks like this doesn't trigger the vacation. This time I tryed to send me a mail from another test account and then it worked !! I just saw another behaviour where I would like to know if this is normal or not. So in my case I've got vacation activated and also a normal filter which says if subject = something then REJECT mail. The filter works when the vacation is deactivated but when I activate the vacation this reject filter doesn't work. Is that the normal behaviour ? Regards
Re: Latest on Cyrus and GFS?
i'm doing one of these 'shared' storage setups these days too. the solution i chose is kimberlite, well, RH advanced server actually, where i have only one box using the storage at a time. the other box can still be usefull, for example chewing mails with spamassassin. in case there is some problem with either of the boxen, the healty one can take over the service. Hi, can you tell me a bit more about this setup which you would like to do ? So you are going to share a SCSI bus between two HA cluster nodes and also use multi-initiator SCSI, right ? I am quite interested in which hardware you will use exactly to acheive that. And why did you choose kimberlite instead of heartbeat from linux-ha.org ? Thanks Regards
cyrus as trusted user in sendmail
Hello, Do I need to put my cyrus user in the trusted users list of Sendmail ? If yes would that be in the sendmail daemon config or in the MSP ? I suppose the MSP... Regards
cyrus auto-generated failure message from address
Hello, When Cyrus generates a failure message for example because someone sent a mail to an unexisting IMAP account then that auto-generated mail contains the following From header: From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON@unspecified-domain As you can see the domain is unspecified-domain and I wanted to know if it is possible to change that ? if yes where ? Thanks
Cyrus and NFS
Hello, I've read in the documentation of Cyrus that it was not safe to use NFS. Now it doesn't tell much more about what really isn't safe with NFS, that's why I am writting this mail with the following questions: - Are ALL usage cases of Cyrus with NFS unsafe ? For example a Cyrus IMAP server mounting it's partition dir from an NFS server and being the ONLY one writting to this NFS share, is that also unsafe ? - Which cases of usage of Cyrus with NFS are safe, if any ? Thanks... Regards
Re: Latest on Cyrus and GFS?
A Murder allows segmentation (for most purposes) of the mailboxes.db, which is the single-most-contended-for resource in Cyrus (as far as I can tell). The problem that *isn't* addresses is availability of each IMAP back-end. We're hoping to use IBM's HACMP for this, I think that there is a Linux-ish, scriptable-takeover-on-hearbeat-failure hooya, though I don't know what it is called. Hi there, I think what you are talking about with that scriptable-takeover-on-heartbeat-failre is actually heartbeat itself available at linux-ha.org :) Regards
Re: Websieve and Cyrus 2.1.11 (smartsieve doesn't work neither)
You could take a look at SmartSieve, at: http://smartsieve.sourceforge.net Its an active project, written in PHP, and works with Websieve scripts. Hi, thanks for the link, I just had a try at that project and same result, everything looks fine, the script gets created and activated but when sending test mails nothing happens... No idea why, there are also no error messages in my logs. Any ideas what I should check ? Regards
Re: UW to Cyrus transition
Hi, Thanks for sharing this, that's really neat from you ! Can you maybe in a few words explain us the login and how your scripts works ? Also what is required (external tools if any) to get it to work ? Regards |+- || | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 16.01.2003 13:14 | || | |+- --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: UW to Cyrus transition | --| Hi people, In the last week of december, I ported 1 ( c.a. ) users from UW to Cyrus. As I had a REALLY hard time finding ANY help whatsoever ( scripts etc ), I wrote some of my own. I must say, they DO take time. I was running them on a Sun Fire 880 with 4x900MHz CPUs and 8GB RAM, and all files local. It takes around 8-10 hours per 2500 users with around 20GB of data total. So for 1 users with around 80GB of data, up to 40 hours of conversion time is a fairly close estimate. I am sure that the scripts are not completely bug-free, but they did work for me. BEWARE: usernames with dots in them are NOT very well handled. Share and enjoy. -tosi (See attached file: CYR)(See attached file: output_mailfile)(See attached file: uw2cyr) CYR Description: Binary data output_mailfile Description: Binary data uw2cyr Description: Binary data
Re: disable logging
Logging is done via syslog, check your syslog.conf for the following local6 facility and/or mail. You probably have them in debug, change it to something higher... Regards To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: disable logging Woerns Urstmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/16/2003 07:27 PM font size=-1/font how can i disable this excessive logging to my syslog? i really can't find any debug switch in my setup. Jan 16 19:25:56 wurstbude saslauthd[2176]: dbuser changed. Jan 16 19:25:56 wurstbude saslauthd[2176]: dbpasswd changed. Jan 16 19:25:56 wurstbude saslauthd[2176]: host changed. Jan 16 19:25:56 wurstbude saslauthd[2176]: database changed. Jan 16 19:25:56 wurstbude saslauthd[2176]: table changed. ... ... Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed to open index file Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed to open index file Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed to open index file Jan 16 19:26:51 wurstbude imapd[14971]: SQUAT failed ... ... thanks jens
Re: Websieve and Cyrus 2.1.11
perl is telling you precisely what the problem is -- it is looking for the file IMAP/Admin.pm (ie, the perl module IMAP::Admin), and it can't find it in any of the directories listed. If you installed it somewhere else, you will need to get perl to look for it where you installed it. If you haven't installed the module, it won't work until you do. ok right I just saw that my Admin.pm perl module is in /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris-64int/Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm so in the file funclib.pl from Websieve I've changed the following line: use IMAP::Admin; to use Cyrus::IMAP:Admin; and I got further but now it's complaining that it cannot find IMAP/Sieve.pm and I am 100% sure this file is NOT part of Cyrus IMAPD at least not 2.1.11. Do you know where I can find it maybe ? This Websieve thing really looks old :( Regards
Re: Websieve and Cyrus 2.1.11
If you want to use the Cyrus version of those modules, the name for that one is Cyrus::SIEVE::managesieve. It looks like you are using funclib.pl rather than funclib.cyrus -- the readme.txt file explains that either you need to use funclib.cyrus and use the internal Cyrus modules, or you need to install IMAP::Admin and IMAP::Sieve. The readme also tells you where to find those files if you don't want to use the Cyrus modules. Sorry bout that, I messed up my doc, I read it to quickly :) Now it works, looks like I will need to patch it a bit to support virtual domains but already brings up an interface, will go and test it now. As far as really old, there are many programs on my system which haven't been updated as recently as a September 2001, which is the date on websieve. Strange, strange world... Regards
Websieve - vacation
Hi again, I managed to install websieve and just tested the vacation part, it does it's work by installing a default script in sieve and activating it, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work. Here is the script that websieve generated me (from the file /var/cyrus/sieve/m/marc/default.script): # Mail rules for user marc # Created by Websieve version 0.61h require [fileinto,vacation]; vacation :days 1 :addresses [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] text: Autogenerated Message: This is a test vacation message werioweuroiweur weriuowerio werwer . ; ##PSEUDO script start #vacation1[EMAIL PROTECTED] ewriuweioruwer\nweioruweoiru\n\nwerwer\nxx\non #modebasic The script looks allright and it's active, what else can I check or test ? Regards
Re: [PATCH][saslauthd] cyrus-sasl-2.1.10/saslauthd credential caching
Hi Jeremy, Just wanted to let you know that the default shared memory segment size on Solaris 9 has been changed to 8 MB. If you want more on any versions of Solaris you simply need to edit /etc/system. Regards Marc Jeremy Rumpf To: Igor Brezac [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: [PATCH][saslauthd] cyrus-sasl-2.1.10/saslauthd credential caching [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 01/15/03 04:33 PM On Tuesday 14 January 2003 23:36 pm, Igor Brezac wrote: Jeremy, This stuff looks great and with a limited user sample (10) the performance improvement was almost 100 fold. Keep in mind, this is my first crack at it. I am using Solaris 9. I am getting the following error # ./saslcache -s could not attach shared memory segment: 1200 shmat: Invalid argument It is likely I need to adjust shared memory params. I'll let you know what I find. One more note, can you make the changes against the cvs version? -Igor Ok, I've set things up on a Solaris 8 machine for testing. After a few tweaks, things appear to be working ok. One thing though, it seems that the maximum shared memory segment size on Solaris is 1M by default. Solaris users will have to tweak their system settings if a larger cache is desired. Due to this, I've set the default cache size to under 1M (down from ~4M). This way saslauthd will always start with the cache enabled under default circumstances. Changes at: ftp://ftp.net.ohio-state.edu/pub/users/jrumpf/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl-2.1.10-cache-2.patch Or fully patched source at: ftp://ftp.net.ohio-state.edu/pub/users/jrumpf/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl-2.1.10-cache-2.tar.gz I'll work on getting a diff against current cvs as well Thanks, Jeremy
ctl_cyrusdb problem
Hello, I have a little problem with the checkpoint... As you can see here from the logs: Jan 12 19:36:57 mail master[659]: [ID 392559 local6.debug] about to exec /opt/cyrimap/bin/ctl_cyrusdb Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 702911 local6.notice] checkpointing cyrus databases Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 854764 local6.error] DBERROR: error listing log files: Permission denied Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 686478 local6.error] DBERROR: archive /var/cyrus/db: cyrusdb error Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 854764 local6.error] DBERROR: error listing log files: Permission denied Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 686478 local6.error] DBERROR: archive /var/cyrus/db: cyrusdb error Jan 12 19:36:57 mail ctl_cyrusdb[659]: [ID 127214 local6.notice] done checkpointing cyrus databases Jan 12 19:36:57 mail master[411]: [ID 310780 local6.debug] process 659 exited, status 0 I checked the whole content /var/cyrus to find any files or directories which would not beloing to user cyrus (group mail) but all files and directories belong to cyrus:mail (except the /var/cyrus/ltmp socket which belongs root but I think that's normal). Does someone have an idea what else I should check ? Thanks Regards Marc
Re: backup mail server
Hi Lee,
First thanks for your configuration file... I have a few questions now
regarding your current setup:
- Are you using other tools like heartbeat or in the same kind ? If yes
which tool ?
- From your drbd configuration file I can see that you are using /dev/sda6
as physical disk, is that your Cyrus partition (/var/spool/imap) ?
Thanks
Marc
drbd configuration file:
resource drbd0 {
protocol=C
fsckcmd=fsck.ext2 -p -y
inittimeout=60
skip-wait=yes
disk {
do-panic
disk-size=66621523
}
net {
sync-rate=6M
tl-size=5000
timeout=60
connect-int=10
ping-int=10
}
on box1 {
device=/dev/nb0
disk=/dev/sda6
address=10.0.0.1
port=7789
}
on box2 {
device=/dev/nb0
disk=/dev/sda6
address=10.0.0.2
port=7789
}
}
Boxes are connected together via serial and etho links.
L
On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 05:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 01:38:11PM -0500, Lee wrote:
We use drbd (http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/reisner/drbd/) and
linux-ha's (http://www.linux-ha.org/) heartbeat to create two-box
mailstores (one active, one hotspare, continuously in-sync). Works
beautifully.
Are you using the drdb from CVS on a 2.4.x kernel? Could you provide
details of the drdb version and OS off list?
A copy/paste of your config file would also be great as example, if
they do
not contain too much sensitive data of course which shouldn't be the
case...
Thanks
Marc
C.DTF
Vacation example with sendmail as MTA
Hello, I had a look through Cyrus documentation and FAQ but I didn't find anything mentioning how to set up vacation messages for the users hosted on our mail server using Sendmail 8.12.7 and Cyrus IMAP 2.1.11. Can someone in some few words explain me how I can active a vacation message for a user ? From what I understood I will need sieve to acheive that, right ? Another important point is that it would be nice if the user has an interface where he can active/deactive/update his vacation message, does something like that exist ? Regards Marc
Re: Vacation example with sendmail as MTA
Yes, the user needs to create a sive script that takes the vacation action for all incoming messages (except mailing list subscriptions, etc). The user then needs to upload this script to the server somehow. I use SquirrelMail as a webmail frontend to Cyrus for users when they are out of the office. SquirrelMail supports a plugin architecture, and there is a plugin (avelsieve) that deals with GUI creation of sieve scripts, and submits them to the server. Most of my users have no problem with using that interface to set up limited mail filters, and vacation messages. We are using Horde/IMP as webmail client, I will have a look if I also find something equivalent as avelsieve but for Horde/IMP. Hopefully someone already coded something. Regards Marc
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
I will have a try at it this week-end... Now hopefully the last question about this topic, how does actually the SNMP daemon know about Cyrus ?? I am wondering how that can work by only specifying master agentx, is that really all ? I will be using Cyrus graphtools from the contrib dir... Regards Marc Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 01/09/03 07:31 PM On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, it looks like that worked, I now compiled Cyrus IMAP with the following: LIBS=-Wl,-zignore and I've checked with ldd to see if the kstat and kvm library where display and they are not anymore so it looks fine. Now an important question, how can I check that UCD-SNMP is really working with my Cyrus IMAP ? Add 'master agentx' to snmpd.conf. Make sure to start cyrus after your start snmpd. To see counters 'snmpwalk snmp_host comminity_str .1.3.6.1.4.1.3.6.1' Regards Marc Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 01/08/03 10:51 PM Please respond to info-cyrus On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must have mis-understood you. You need to use this option to compile cyrus-imapd. -Wl,-zignore will ignore libraries not referenced by the link process. If you want to fix UCD-SNMP libs, you need to pass -Wl,-zdefs to LDFLAGS and then add neccessary libs to the link process until everything compiles fine. Actually, you may need to use -zdefs because libtool on solaris uses 'ld' for link-edit. This is a libtool bug, but this is a subject for a different forum. Oh ok this is for Cyrus IMAP, then I misunderstood you... So now from the two solutions you gave what do you think is the best to do: You do not have to do either. What you have works. ;) You asked me if cyrus binaries can be compiled without all these unneccessary libraries? Option 1) will do this. 1) - use -Wl,-zignore to compile Cyrus IMAP or I would not go through the effort of fixing UCD libs unless you are familiar with the link-edit process. Do not bother with 2). 2) - use -Wl,-zdefs to compile UCD SNMP Hope this helps. -Igor -- Igor
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
Thanks, it looks like that worked, I now compiled Cyrus IMAP with the following: LIBS=-Wl,-zignore and I've checked with ldd to see if the kstat and kvm library where display and they are not anymore so it looks fine. Now an important question, how can I check that UCD-SNMP is really working with my Cyrus IMAP ? Regards Marc Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 01/08/03 10:51 PM Please respond to info-cyrus On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must have mis-understood you. You need to use this option to compile cyrus-imapd. -Wl,-zignore will ignore libraries not referenced by the link process. If you want to fix UCD-SNMP libs, you need to pass -Wl,-zdefs to LDFLAGS and then add neccessary libs to the link process until everything compiles fine. Actually, you may need to use -zdefs because libtool on solaris uses 'ld' for link-edit. This is a libtool bug, but this is a subject for a different forum. Oh ok this is for Cyrus IMAP, then I misunderstood you... So now from the two solutions you gave what do you think is the best to do: You do not have to do either. What you have works. ;) You asked me if cyrus binaries can be compiled without all these unneccessary libraries? Option 1) will do this. 1) - use -Wl,-zignore to compile Cyrus IMAP or I would not go through the effort of fixing UCD libs unless you are familiar with the link-edit process. Do not bother with 2). 2) - use -Wl,-zdefs to compile UCD SNMP Hope this helps. -Igor
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
Hi Igor,
I just compiled my UCD-SNMP libraries with the options you've told me. Now
I wanted to make sure that the kvm and kstat library is also included in
it. How can I check that ?
Regards
Marc
Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
t Subject: Re: Including UCD-SNMP support
in Cyrus IMAPD
01/06/03 09:30
PM
Please respond
to info-cyrus
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
You are right, an ldd on the Cyrus binaries showed up kstat and kvm
library... Hopefully this doesn't use too much memory. Btw: I saw that
only
the master binary from Cyrus IMAPD does use the UCD-SNMP library so
wouldn't it be a better idea to link only the kvm and kstat library
against
the master binary ? If yes do you have an idea how I could acheive that ?
Try ('make distclean' first)
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-zignore LIBS=-lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
or
LIBS=-Wl,-zignore -lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
As you say it would be much better having UCD-SNMP dealing with those
libraries and not Cyrus IMAP, already tryed writting to the UCD-SNMP team
about that ?
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try,
LIBS=-lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
I now had a try and it finally compiled perfectly ! Now, is that
somehow
One small issue is that all your cyrus binaries are linked with -lkstat
-lkvm. This is not a problem except for a slightly higher memory usage.
normal that I need to do that, shouldn't this be automatically done
with
the configure script ?
I do not thinks so. The real fix is to build self-contained ucd libs.
The ucd libraries are kinda messy, there are all sorts of cross
dependencies (libucdagent depends on libucdmibs and vice versa). I had a
time trying to sort this out. ;(
-Igor
--
Igor
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
I must have mis-understood you. You need to use this option to compile
cyrus-imapd. -Wl,-zignore will ignore libraries not referenced by the
link process.
If you want to fix UCD-SNMP libs, you need to pass -Wl,-zdefs to LDFLAGS
and then add neccessary libs to the link process until everything compiles
fine. Actually, you may need to use -zdefs because libtool on solaris
uses 'ld' for link-edit. This is a libtool bug, but this is a subject for
a different forum.
Oh ok this is for Cyrus IMAP, then I misunderstood you... So now from the
two solutions you gave what do you think is the best to do:
- use -Wl,-zignore to compile Cyrus IMAP or
- use -Wl,-zdefs to compile UCD SNMP
?
Regards
Marc
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Igor,
I just compiled my UCD-SNMP libraries with the options you've told me.
Now
I wanted to make sure that the kvm and kstat library is also included in
it. How can I check that ?
Regards
Marc
Igor Brezac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
t Subject: Re: Including
UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
01/06/03 09:30
PM
Please respond
to info-cyrus
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
You are right, an ldd on the Cyrus binaries showed up kstat and kvm
library... Hopefully this doesn't use too much memory. Btw: I saw that
only
the master binary from Cyrus IMAPD does use the UCD-SNMP library so
wouldn't it be a better idea to link only the kvm and kstat library
against
the master binary ? If yes do you have an idea how I could acheive that
?
Try ('make distclean' first)
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-zignore LIBS=-lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
or
LIBS=-Wl,-zignore -lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
As you say it would be much better having UCD-SNMP dealing with those
libraries and not Cyrus IMAP, already tryed writting to the UCD-SNMP
team
about that ?
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try,
LIBS=-lkstat -lkvm ./configure ...
I now had a try and it finally compiled perfectly ! Now, is that
somehow
One small issue is that all your cyrus binaries are linked with
-lkstat
-lkvm. This is not a problem except for a slightly higher memory
usage.
normal that I need to do that, shouldn't this be automatically done
with
the configure script ?
I do not thinks so. The real fix is to build self-contained ucd libs.
The ucd libraries are kinda messy, there are all sorts of cross
dependencies (libucdagent depends on libucdmibs and vice versa). I had
a
time trying to sort this out. ;(
-Igor
--
Igor
--
Igor
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
Try, LIBS=-lkstat -lkvm ./configure ... I now had a try and it finally compiled perfectly ! Now, is that somehow normal that I need to do that, shouldn't this be automatically done with the configure script ? Regards Marc
Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
Hello,
I am trying to get Cyrus IMAPD 2.1.11 on Solaris 9 to compile with support
for UCD-SNMP, I use version 4.2.6 of UCD-SNMP. The problem is that it
doesn't detect UCD-SNMP because of the following error in the config.log:
configure:6064: checking for sprint_objid in -lsnmp
configure:6083: gcc -o conftest -Wall -g -O2 -I/opt/sfw/include/db3
-I/usr/local/include -I/opt/openssl/include -I/opt/ucdsnmp/include -L/op
t/sfw/lib -R/opt/sfw/lib -L/opt/sfw/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
-R/opt/sfw/lib:/opt/openssl/lib:/opt/ucdsnmp/lib -L/opt/openssl/l
ib -L/opt/ucdsnmp/lib conftest.c -lsnmp -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
-ldb-3.1 -lssl -lcrypto 15
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
kstat_close /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_lookup/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_read /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_open /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_data_lookup /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to conftest
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6072 configure
#include confdefs.h
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */
/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2
builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */
char sprint_objid();
int main() {
sprint_objid()
; return 0; }
configure:6141: checking UCD SNMP libraries
As you can see I have UCD-SNMP installed in /opt/ucdsnmp, but that doesn't
seem to be the problem, looks like I am missing something which has to do
with kstat. Does someone have any idea ?
PS: Sorry if you see this mail twice, I am not sure if the first one ever
arrived to the mailing list.
Regards
Marc
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
do a man -k for one of those functions (kstat_read for example) and if
there's a man page for it, it should tell you what libraries you need to
link against, which should fix it.
I've just did that and discovered that there is actually a library called
libkstat residing in /usr/lib on Solaris 9. Now against what do I need to
link this library, against UCD-SNMP or Cyrus IMAPD ? Also another question,
what's the easiest way to link the libkstat library ?
Many thanks
Regards
Hello,
I am trying to get Cyrus IMAPD 2.1.11 on Solaris 9 to compile with
support
for UCD-SNMP, I use version 4.2.6 of UCD-SNMP. The problem is that it
doesn't detect UCD-SNMP because of the following error in the config.log:
configure:6064: checking for sprint_objid in -lsnmp
configure:6083: gcc -o conftest -Wall -g -O2 -I/opt/sfw/include/db3
-I/usr/local/include -I/opt/openssl/include -I/opt/ucdsnmp/include -L/op
t/sfw/lib -R/opt/sfw/lib -L/opt/sfw/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
-R/opt/sfw/lib:/opt/openssl/lib:/opt/ucdsnmp/lib -L/opt/openssl/l
ib -L/opt/ucdsnmp/lib conftest.c -lsnmp -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
-ldb-3.1 -lssl -lcrypto 15
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
kstat_close /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_lookup/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_read /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_open /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
kstat_data_lookup /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libsnmp.so
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to conftest
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6072 configure
#include confdefs.h
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */
/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2
builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */
char sprint_objid();
int main() {
sprint_objid()
; return 0; }
configure:6141: checking UCD SNMP libraries
As you can see I have UCD-SNMP installed in /opt/ucdsnmp, but that
doesn't
seem to be the problem, looks like I am missing something which has to do
with kstat. Does someone have any idea ?
PS: Sorry if you see this mail twice, I am not sure if the first one ever
arrived to the mailing list.
Regards
Marc
Re: Including UCD-SNMP support in Cyrus IMAPD
Try ('make distclean' first)
LIBS=-lkstat ./configure
The real fix is to build self-contained ucd-snmp libs.
master.c will not compile if ucd-snmpd package is built with libwrap.
If this is the case, I can email you my patch.
Hope this helps.
That helped for the configure but now I get the following error when
issuing gmake all:
gcc -L/opt/sfw/lib -R/opt/sfw/lib -L/opt/sfw/lib -L/usr/local/lib
-R/usr/local/lib -R/opt/sfw/lib:/opt/openssl/lib:/opt/ucdsnmp/lib
-L/opt/openssl/lib -L/opt/ucdsnmp/lib -Wall -g -O2 -o master master.o
masterconf.o cyrusMasterMIB.o -lucdagent -lucdmibs -lsnmp -ldl -ldb-3.1
-lkstat -lssl -lcrypto -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl ../et/libcom_err.a
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
kvm_read/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdagent.so
kvm_getu/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdmibs.so
kvm_open/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdagent.so
nlist /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdmibs.so
kvm_setproc /opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdmibs.so
kvm_nextproc/opt/ONucdsnmp/lib/libucdmibs.so
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to master
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
gmake[1]: *** [master] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/master'
gmake: *** [all] Error 1
bash-2.05$ echo $LIBS
-lkstat
I think the problem is really in my UCD-SNMP library, do you maybe know how
I can fix my UCD-SNMP libraries ?
Regards
Marc
Sendmail local mailer still needed ?
Hello, I wanted to know if the local mailer of sendmail - MAILER(`local') directive in the Sendmail mc file is still needed when using Cyrus ? I would say no as the LDA is now all done by Cyrus but I had a look in the mailer/local.m4 file of Sendmail and saw quite a lot of stuff in it so I am not so sure about removing it from my MC file. That would be only to have the MAILER(`cyrusv2') directive in my MC file. Many thanks Regards
Re: Sendmail local mailer still needed ?
The documentation says there must always be a local mailer, but you don't have to use it. Ie, in your .mc file you will have MAILER(`local'), MAILER(`cyrusv2'), and define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrusv2') (plus whatever else you need). Thanks for your answer... Now what I don't really understand is when using the Cyrusv2 mailer, what is my local mailer used for ? Because using mailstats from Sendmail I can see that it has some messages from and to using the local mailer. Regards
Re: make depend problems
Are you using the --disable-sieve configure option? It's broken and will produce this error, but the attached patch (tested on Solaris 8 with GNU tools) fixes the problem. Yes exactly I am using the --disable-sieve option, thanks for the patch ! In the mean time I've also found out that I just need to comment out the depend:: part of the Makefile in the perl directory. Regards Marc
Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.bs file
Hello, Can someone tell me if the PERL file Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.bs which resides in the local site_perl dir is required ? Or what is it used for ? I am asking this because my IMAP.bs file is 0 kb and I am currently packaging Cyrus IMAP so I was wondering if I could simply ignore this file. Regards Marc
make depend problems
Hello, I am trying to compile the latest version of Cyrus IMAPD and have some problems already with the make depend, as you can see here in my output: gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/imtest' ### Making depend in /opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl gmake[1]: Entering directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl' ### Making depend in /opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl/sieve gmake[2]: Entering directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl/sieve' gmake[2]: *** No rule to make target `depend'. Stop. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl/sieve' gmake[1]: *** [depend] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/source/cyrus-imapd-2.1.11/perl' gmake: *** [depend] Error 1 Does anyone have an idea what the problem could be ??? I am using standard GNU tools on Solaris 9. Regards
Re: ctl_cyrusdb -r takes too long
Hello, I am also quite interested in this topic as I will be using Solaris 9 with UFS logging enabled on each slices. Can others from this mailing list confirm that disabling UFS logging on the Cyrus slice (partition) will speed up the ctl_cyrusdb -r process ? I guess if it's recommended to turn off UFS logging, it would be good to have this somewhere in the Cyrus documentation or maybe in the FAQ... Regards Marc John Havard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Jatin Nansi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: ctl_cyrusdb -r takes too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew.cmu.edu 12/16/02 06:17 PM You wouldn't happen to have have /var/imap on a logging or journaling filesystem by any chance? A while back I noticed this under Solaris. The fix was to mount /var without UFS logging. IIRC, the db code does its own journaling/logging, so the only thing you'll be missing by turning it off in the FS is the long start times. Regards, John Havard Systems Administrator Internet Doorway, Inc. Internet Doorway, Inc. (NETDOOR) - Mississippi's ISP 601.969.1434 | 800.952.1570 | http://www.netdoor.com/ --On Saturday, December 14, 2002 05:50:33 PM +0530 Jatin Nansi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is for cyrus gurus and for record: --- Dec 13 20:10:21 mail3 master[4574]: process started Dec 13 20:10:21 mail3 master[4575]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/ctl_cyrusdb Dec 13 20:10:21 mail3 ctl_cyrusdb[4575]: recovering cyrus databases Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 ctl_cyrusdb[4575]: done recovering cyrus databases Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4574]: ready for work Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4979]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/ctl_cyrusdb Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4982]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/imapd Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4983]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/imapd Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4984]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/lmtpd Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4985]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/lmtpd Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4981]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/tls_prune Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 master[4980]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/ctl_deliver Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 ctl_cyrusdb[4979]: checkpointing cyrus databases Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 lmtpunix[4985]: executed Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 lmtp[4984]: executed Dec 14 06:15:11 mail3 tls_prune[4981]: mydelete: starting txn 2147483653 --- Will ctl_cyrusdb -r take 10 hours ? I dread the day when the system will need downtime again. This is on a decent 2 x P3 1 GHz with 100 GB scsi raid and 1 GB RAM, about 2000 users, 50 MB per user. I really need reboot times to be between 5 to 10 minutes, as against 10 hours. I will set the checkpoint period to 5 minutes as per the FAQ, but are there any other pointers ? Jatin Jatin Nansi wrote: Hi, I have a cyrus IMAP system here which is taking way too long to start up, stopping just at ctl_cyrusdb -r. There does not seem to be any activity going on, but ctl_cyrusdb just doesnot exit. I am running cyrus-imapd-2.1.8 on a redhat 7.3 system. The backend database is DB3. I need some directions on what could be wrong and where ? Is it normal for ctl_cyrusdb -r to take as much as 1 hr (and still running) to finish ? Jatin
Which version of Cyrus IMAPD
Hello, For a production mail server, which version of Cyrus IMAPD should I use ? Version 2.0.17 or version 2.1.11 ? And what are the differences really between those two latest versions ? Regards Marc
Re: Which version of Cyrus IMAPD
What does exactly that skiplist feature do ? Regards Marc Rob Siemborski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mu.edu Subject: Re: Which version of Cyrus IMAPD 12/06/02 05:05 PM On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a production mail server, which version of Cyrus IMAPD should I use ? Version 2.0.17 or version 2.1.11 ? And what are the differences really between those two latest versions ? 2.0.17 is only intended for sites which are upgrading from previous 2.0 versions and are unable to make the upgrade to 2.1.x for whatever reason. I strongly recommend you use 2.1.11 if you're starting a new system. It has fairly substantial performance benefits over 2.0 (especially if you are using the skiplist database backend for your mailbox list). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: Which version of Cyrus IMAPD
Do I need to activate something during the compilation (configure) or is it per default enabled in 2.1.11 ? Regards Marc |+- || | || Rob Siemborski | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 12/06/02 06:10 PM | || | |+- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: Re: Which version of Cyrus IMAPD | ---| Its an improved database backend that is optimized for enumeration, which happens a lot with the mailbox list. Berkeley DB is not optimized for enumeration, and while flat can give you fast enumeration, it is tremendously slow to update. -Rob On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does exactly that skiplist feature do ? Regards Marc Rob Siemborski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mu.edu Subject: Re: Which version of Cyrus IMAPD 12/06/02 05:05 PM On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a production mail server, which version of Cyrus IMAPD should I use ? Version 2.0.17 or version 2.1.11 ? And what are the differences really between those two latest versions ? 2.0.17 is only intended for sites which are upgrading from previous 2.0 versions and are unable to make the upgrade to 2.1.x for whatever reason. I strongly recommend you use 2.1.11 if you're starting a new system. It has fairly substantial performance benefits over 2.0 (especially if you are using the skiplist database backend for your mailbox list). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert Hall 207 * 412-268-7456 Research Systems Programmer * /usr/contributed Gatekeeper
Re: Default ACL for new user mailbox
Hi, Now everything is clear it's what I was also thinking but I was a bit confused from the answer of the others. Is there actually another way to realize what I want to do ? The only way I can see right now is to create a script to cyradm which will create the user's mailbox using createmailbox and then set the acl using setaclmailbox to give the admin user full rights... Regards Marc |+- || | || Ken Murchison | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 11/19/02 10:55 PM | || | |+- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: Marko Damaschke [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: Re: Default ACL for new user mailbox | ---| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I suppose it is a mailbox without a parent because it's the INBOX of a user that I am creating and before that nothing exists for that user. Again the mailbox I am creating is user.testuser and I tryed setting the default acl like that in imapd.conf: defaultacl: cyrus all restarted the master daemon process but it still didn't work ! Any ideas ? This option is only for toplevel folders. A user's inbox is actually under the user. tree, so it isn't a toplevel mailbox. -- Kenneth Murchison Oceana Matrix Ltd. Software Engineer 21 Princeton Place 716-662-8973 x26 Orchard Park, NY 14127 --PGP Public Key--http://www.oceana.com/~ken/ksm.pgp
Re: Default ACL for new user mailbox
Well I suppose it is a mailbox without a parent because it's the INBOX of a user that I am creating and before that nothing exists for that user. Again the mailbox I am creating is user.testuser and I tryed setting the default acl like that in imapd.conf: defaultacl: cyrus all restarted the master daemon process but it still didn't work ! Any ideas ? Regards Heyho, Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well if I read the imapd.conf man page again it states the following: defaultacl: anyone lrs The Access Control List (ACL) placed on a newly-created (non-user) mailbox that does not have a parent mailbox. What I can see here which disturbs me is the ...(non-user) mailbox... part and what I am creating are user mailboxes like user.testuser or user.testser.myfolder, so this doesn't work for my case... The mailbox user.testuser, you create, is a mailbox without a parent mailbox, isn't it? All new created mailboxes without a parent mailbox gets the acl from defaultacl. All mailboxes, that are children of another get the ACL from its parent-box. I think, that is what should be said above in the manual. So if your new top-level-mailbox get the right acl and the user isn't allowed to change it, all children-boxes of this mailbox get the right acl. That is my experience. Regards Marko D. -- Student of Applied Computer Science Home: http://www.mdam.de 1st/2nd March 2003 - 5th Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Default ACL for new user mailbox
Hello, Is it somehow possible to set a default ACL which a new mailbox will inherit when I create it with cyradm ? What I would like to do is give automatically full permissions to all new mailboxes to the cyrus administrator. Or maybe there is another way to do that ? Regards Marc
Re: Default ACL for new user mailbox
Hi, Well if I read the imapd.conf man page again it states the following: defaultacl: anyone lrs The Access Control List (ACL) placed on a newly-created (non-user) mailbox that does not have a parent mailbox. What I can see here which disturbs me is the ...(non-user) mailbox... part and what I am creating are user mailboxes like user.testuser or user.testser.myfolder, so this doesn't work for my case... Any other ideas ? Regards Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/02 12:31 Subject: Re: Default ACL for new user mailbox PM Heyho, Is it somehow possible to set a default ACL which a new mailbox will inherit when I create it with cyradm ? What I would like to do is give automatically full permissions to all new mailboxes to the cyrus administrator. Or maybe there is another way to do that ? Read ' man 5 imapd.conf ' respectively '/etc/imapd.conf' and look for defaultacl:. Its just for your problem. If you want to give acls to more than one user, you can do it this way: defaultacl: user1 acl1 user2 acl2 ... Regards and HTH Marko D. -- Home: http://www.mdam.de 1st / 2nd March 2003 5th Chemnitz LinuxTag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!
Migrating from BSD style mailbox to Cyrus v2
Hello,
We are currently going to migrate from our current mail server, an OpenBSD
box running UW-IMAP and therfore having BSD style mailboxes to a Cyrus v2
mail server.
We currently tested mbxcvt and mailutil from the UW-IMAP utils to
copy/transfer all the mails to the new Cyrus mail server but the problem
that we've encoutered is that using for example:
mailutil transfer '{oldmailserver/imap}' '{newmailserver/imap}'
is that we need to enter the user's name and password. This gives us
problems because:
1) we don't know the user's password
2) we have a LOT of users to migrate
The best would be to somehow fully automate this withtout requiring
passwords and such, does someone have any experience doing that, I am sure
it is somehow possible to do that but how ? We are surely not the only ones
migrating to the great Cyrus.
It would be possible for us to copy all the users mailboxes to the new
mailserver if that helps. The user's INBOX is in /var/mail and the user's
folders are in /home/username
Regards
Marc
Re: Migrating from BSD style mailbox to Cyrus v2
Thanks for the tip that's already half of the work done, now there is still the password from the source (UW-IMAP) IMAP server... Also how will Cyrus know which user I am copying the folders to ? Will it still prompt for a username and then simply skip the password ? Regards Marc |+- || | || Henrique de Moraes Holschuh| || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 11/12/02 05:09 PM | || | |+- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: Re: Migrating from BSD style mailbox to Cyrus v2 | ---| On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best would be to somehow fully automate this withtout requiring passwords and such, does someone have any experience doing that, I am sure it is somehow possible to do that but how ? We are surely not the only ones migrating to the great Cyrus. 1. lock down the network 2. set sasl_pwcheck_method: alwaystrue in imapd.conf That will turn off all password verification. You may try to do a direct conversion, though. Good luck there... -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
Re: Converting from BSD mailbox format to Cyrus v2 format
Thanks for the tip, I will have a try at it hopefully this week-end, and let you know in case it doesn't work well. Regards Marc |+- || | || Ken Murchison | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 07.11.2002 16:27 | || | |+- --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: Re: Converting from BSD mailbox format to Cyrus v2 format | --| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I will need to migrate a few users which were on an old OpenBSD mail server using the original BSD mailbox format to the new Cyrus v2.1.9 mailstore format. I've already read the book Managing IMAP but unfortunately their scripts are for Cyrus v1.5 which was a bit different from Cyrus v2 because it's now using Berkley DB. So does anyone have any tips or tools on how to convert BSD mailboxes to the new Cyrus v2 mailstore ? Try the 'mboxcvt' tool in the imap-utils package ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z I've used it to take archives of large mailing lists/newsgroups (in mbox format) and feed them into a mailbox on my Cyrus server. I also believe that these tools might be deprecated and replaced by the more general 'mailutil' in the UW IMAP distro. -- Kenneth Murchison Oceana Matrix Ltd. Software Engineer 21 Princeton Place 716-662-8973 x26 Orchard Park, NY 14127 --PGP Public Key--http://www.oceana.com/~ken/ksm.pgp
Converting from BSD mailbox format to Cyrus v2 format
Hello, I will need to migrate a few users which were on an old OpenBSD mail server using the original BSD mailbox format to the new Cyrus v2.1.9 mailstore format. I've already read the book Managing IMAP but unfortunately their scripts are for Cyrus v1.5 which was a bit different from Cyrus v2 because it's now using Berkley DB. So does anyone have any tips or tools on how to convert BSD mailboxes to the new Cyrus v2 mailstore ? Many thanks Regards Marc
Re: cyrus imapd+netscape mail client
It simply looks like Netscape 7 only sends the IMAP EXPUNGE command after closing the application. Have a look maybe for an option in Netscape which sounds like expunge mailbox after deleting mail. I have no clue if this exists but that's your problem, but for sure not a bug. Regards Marc |+- || | || Eugene Chow| || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ew.cmu.edu | || | || | || 11/07/02 02:37 PM | || | |+- ---| | | | To: Toomas Vann [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: Re: cyrus imapd+netscape mail client | ---| Hi there, I'm using both IMP and Mozilla 1.1 which is very similar to yours. I have that 'problem' as well but if you take a look at IMP's Trash after deleting your email in Netscape, you'll notice that the email is both in Trash and striked out in Inbox at the same time. Only after you close Netscape mail, the email will be actually deleted off (provided that you set the option in your mail client settings). I'm not too sure how the IMAP protocol is supposed to work but this may not be a bug after all. -- Eugene Chow == xyrik at == -=ecentrenet dot kom=- *** Toomas Vann wrote: Hi! I am new to Cyrus imapd and i recall reading somewhere that Cyrus has problems with Netscape Mail Client deleting mail, but dont recall from where i saw that? OK, problem is that when deleting mail with Netscape Mail, mail is moved to Trash folder but if i use a webmail client (IMP) then i see that it was also left in INBOX and was never deleted from there. Maybe someone know how to resolve this. I am using Cyrus Imapd 2.1.9 and Netscape 7.0 Regards, Toomas
