Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : > nodens2099 wrote: >> >> ./socketmapClient.pl unix:/var/run/cyrus/socket/smmap cyrus >> "+Hosting/ab...@domain.com" >> +Hosting/ab...@domain.com => OK +Hosting/ab...@domain.com >> >> So socketmap daemon works as expected. > > Sendmail's maps traditionally turn looked up key into lowercase. > It can be (usually) turned off by adding -f switch to map definition. > [ I have reported "missing -f" in socket as bug myself :-) ] > Thanks ! It works now that I have added the -f swith to Kcyrus in mrs_cyrus m4. -- Clement Hermann (nodens) - "L'air pur ? c'est pas en RL, ça ? c'est pas hors charte ?" Jean in L'Histoire des Pingouins, http://tnemeth.free.fr/fmbl/linuxsf/ Vous trouverez ma clef publique sur le serveur public pgp.mit.edu. Please find my public key on the public keyserver pgp.mit.edu. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
nodens2099 wrote: > Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : >> nodens2099 wrote: >> >>> Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : >> Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? >> > Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. It can use only what smmap provides. Are you ready to ask for changed in Cyrus' smmap to make it capable to check Public folders availability? mrs_cyrus_mailertable may be changed to check validity of mailbox folder its own list of valid folders. >>> This is already what I'm doing with ldap. There is no need to add >>> another database, which would have to be maintained as the public folder >>> list change, IMO. >> >> OK - smmap map be needless for "LDAP centric" configuration. >> >>> I actually took a look at the smmapd code, and it uses the >>> lmtp_downcase_rcpt value to know whether the recipient should be >>> converted to downcase or not. >>> According to the code, it convert the user part only, and has a special >>> case for shared folder, so it should be ok. >>> >>> Do you know a way to test smmapd manually ? >> >> There are simple socket map client and server perl scripts in contrib >> directory of sendmail distribution. >> > > I made some more test. The problem is definitely in the cyrus map. > > real mailbox name : Hosting/ab...@domain.com > > sendmail -d -bt > > ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked) > Enter >> /map cyrus +Hosting/ab...@domain.com > map_lookup: cyrus (+Hosting/ab...@domain.com) no match (68) > > (creating hosting/ab...@domain.com, that is the same folder but in > lowercase) >> /map cyrus +Hosting/ab...@domain.com > map_lookup: cyrus (+Hosting/ab...@domain.com) > map_rewrite(+hosting/ab...@domain.com), av = > +Hosting/ab...@domain.com > map_rewrite => +hosting/ab...@domain.com > returns +hosting/ab...@domain.com (0) > > socketmapClient.pl : > > ./socketmapClient.pl unix:/var/run/cyrus/socket/smmap cyrus > "+Hosting/ab...@domain.com" > +Hosting/ab...@domain.com => OK +Hosting/ab...@domain.com > > So socketmap daemon works as expected. Sendmail's maps traditionally turn looked up key into lowercase. It can be (usually) turned off by adding -f switch to map definition. [ I have reported "missing -f" in socket as bug myself :-) ] -- [pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : > nodens2099 wrote: > >> Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : > Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? > Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. >>> It can use only what smmap provides. >>> Are you ready to ask for changed in Cyrus' smmap to make it capable to >>> check Public folders availability? >>> >>> mrs_cyrus_mailertable may be changed to check validity of mailbox folder >>> its own list of valid folders. >>> >> This is already what I'm doing with ldap. There is no need to add >> another database, which would have to be maintained as the public folder >> list change, IMO. > > OK - smmap map be needless for "LDAP centric" configuration. > >> I actually took a look at the smmapd code, and it uses the >> lmtp_downcase_rcpt value to know whether the recipient should be >> converted to downcase or not. >> According to the code, it convert the user part only, and has a special >> case for shared folder, so it should be ok. >> >> Do you know a way to test smmapd manually ? > > There are simple socket map client and server perl scripts in contrib > directory of sendmail distribution. > I made some more test. The problem is definitely in the cyrus map. real mailbox name : Hosting/ab...@domain.com sendmail -d -bt ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked) Enter > /map cyrus +Hosting/ab...@domain.com map_lookup: cyrus (+Hosting/ab...@domain.com) no match (68) (creating hosting/ab...@domain.com, that is the same folder but in lowercase) > /map cyrus +Hosting/ab...@domain.com map_lookup: cyrus (+Hosting/ab...@domain.com) map_rewrite(+hosting/ab...@domain.com), av = +Hosting/ab...@domain.com map_rewrite => +hosting/ab...@domain.com returns +hosting/ab...@domain.com (0) socketmapClient.pl : ./socketmapClient.pl unix:/var/run/cyrus/socket/smmap cyrus "+Hosting/ab...@domain.com" +Hosting/ab...@domain.com => OK +Hosting/ab...@domain.com So socketmap daemon works as expected. Regards, -- Clément Hermann (nodens) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
nodens2099 wrote: > Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? >>> Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. >> >> It can use only what smmap provides. >> Are you ready to ask for changed in Cyrus' smmap to make it capable to >> check Public folders availability? >> >> mrs_cyrus_mailertable may be changed to check validity of mailbox folder >> its own list of valid folders. >> > This is already what I'm doing with ldap. There is no need to add > another database, which would have to be maintained as the public folder > list change, IMO. OK - smmap map be needless for "LDAP centric" configuration. > I actually took a look at the smmapd code, and it uses the > lmtp_downcase_rcpt value to know whether the recipient should be > converted to downcase or not. > According to the code, it convert the user part only, and has a special > case for shared folder, so it should be ok. > > Do you know a way to test smmapd manually ? There are simple socket map client and server perl scripts in contrib directory of sendmail distribution. >>> if it can resolve the mrs_cyrus_mailertable problem, and if it's not too >>> difficult to upgrade rtcyrus2 with it, I'm willing to give it a try. >> >> It can be fixed but you should decide which path do you want do go: >> a) Cyrus smmap can tell if public folders is accessible >> b) sendmail uses its own list of valid publicly accessible Cyrus public >> folders > > the a) is definitely the way to go. I "patch" only sendmail.cf :-) -- [pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them. -- Dumas Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : >>> Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? >>> >> Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. > > It can use only what smmap provides. > Are you ready to ask for changed in Cyrus' smmap to make it capable to > check Public folders availability? > > mrs_cyrus_mailertable may be changed to check validity of mailbox folder > its own list of valid folders. > This is already what I'm doing with ldap. There is no need to add another database, which would have to be maintained as the public folder list change, IMO. I actually took a look at the smmapd code, and it uses the lmtp_downcase_rcpt value to know whether the recipient should be converted to downcase or not. According to the code, it convert the user part only, and has a special case for shared folder, so it should be ok. Do you know a way to test smmapd manually ? >> if it can resolve the mrs_cyrus_mailertable problem, and if it's not too >> difficult to upgrade rtcyrus2 with it, I'm willing to give it a try. > > It can be fixed but you should decide which path do you want do go: > a) Cyrus smmap can tell if public folders is accessible > b) sendmail uses its own list of valid publicly accessible Cyrus public > folders > the a) is definitely the way to go. -- Clément Hermann (nodens) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
nodens2099 wrote: > Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : >> nodens2099 wrote: >> >> >>> I tried setting >>> "lmtp_downcase_rcpt: 0" >>> in imapd.conf, adding the u flag to the cyrusv2d mailer, but to no avail. >>> >>> the +part is always converted to lower case. >>> >> >> Post your cyrusv2d definition from sendmail.cf. >> echo '=M' | sendmail -bt | grep cyrusv2d >> >> Does it contain F=u flag? > > Yes, but only once I added the F=u flag to the m4 file > (MODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`cyrusv2d', `+u') in the sendmail.mc didn't work). > > mailer 4 (cyrusv2d): P=[IPC] S=EnvFromSMTP/HdrFromL > R=EnvToSMTP/EnvToSMTP M=0 U=-1:-1 F=1DFMXlmnqsuz L=0 E=\r\n > T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP r=100 A=FILE /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp > > Thanks ! > >> By default sendmail's mailers convert user part of recipient address to >> lowercase. F=u flag stops it. >> *BUT* it would apply to "normal recipients" *too*. > > That whas my understanding as well. > but it's ok, since lmtp_downcase_rcpt: yes takes care of the username part. > >>> initially I tried using the mrs_cyrus_mailertable approach but it was even >>> worse, as checking +folder/subfol...@domaine.tld with smmap returns unknown >>> user, even when the folder exists and has the "p" acl. >> >> Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? >> > Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. It can use only what smmap provides. Are you ready to ask for changed in Cyrus' smmap to make it capable to check Public folders availability? mrs_cyrus_mailertable may be changed to check validity of mailbox folder its own list of valid folders. > If I create a lowerrcase folder along the mixed cased one, the mail is > received in the correct folder (that is, the mixed case). > >>> Any clue ? >>> >>> I'd really like to avoid converting all existing folders to lower case of >>> possible, it would be painful. >>> >> >> It merely a matter of choosing a simple way you like anyway :-) >> >> BTW >> Why have not you tried RTCyrus3 recipe? >> [ It would require small "patching" too to meet your requirements ] > > Actually, I was adding a new backend in an existing murder environment, > migrating existing users and public folders from MS Exchange server. > Since rtcyrusv2 "just works" in the existing environment, I didn't even > check if there was an update. I saw about RTCyrus3 only when searching a > solution to my public folder problem. > > if it can resolve the mrs_cyrus_mailertable problem, and if it's not too > difficult to upgrade rtcyrus2 with it, I'm willing to give it a try. It can be fixed but you should decide which path do you want do go: a) Cyrus smmap can tell if public folders is accessible b) sendmail uses its own list of valid publicly accessible Cyrus public folders -- [pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu She's the kind of girl who climbed the ladder of success wrong by wrong. -- Mae West Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
Andrzej Adam Filip a écrit : > nodens2099 wrote: > > >> I tried setting >> "lmtp_downcase_rcpt: 0" >> in imapd.conf, adding the u flag to the cyrusv2d mailer, but to no avail. >> >> the +part is always converted to lower case. >> > > Post your cyrusv2d definition from sendmail.cf. > echo '=M' | sendmail -bt | grep cyrusv2d > > Does it contain F=u flag? > > Yes, but only once I added the F=u flag to the m4 file (MODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`cyrusv2d', `+u') in the sendmail.mc didn't work). mailer 4 (cyrusv2d): P=[IPC] S=EnvFromSMTP/HdrFromL R=EnvToSMTP/EnvToSMTP M=0 U=-1:-1 F=1DFMXlmnqsuz L=0 E=\r\n T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP r=100 A=FILE /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp Thanks ! > By default sendmail's mailers convert user part of recipient address to > lowercase. F=u flag stops it. > *BUT* it would apply to "normal recipients" *too*. > > That whas my understanding as well. but it's ok, since lmtp_downcase_rcpt: yes takes care of the username part. >> initially I tried using the mrs_cyrus_mailertable approach but it was even >> worse, as checking +folder/subfol...@domaine.tld with smmap returns unknown >> user, even when the folder exists and has the "p" acl. >> > > Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? > > Nope, you're right. the real problem is on the mrs check, then. If I create a lowerrcase folder along the mixed cased one, the mail is received in the correct folder (that is, the mixed case). >> Any clue ? >> >> I'd really like to avoid converting all existing folders to lower case of >> possible, it would be painful. >> > > It merely a matter of choosing a simple way you like anyway :-) > > BTW > Why have not you tried RTCyrus3 recipe? > [ It would require small "patching" too to meet your requirements ] > > > Actually, I was adding a new backend in an existing murder environment, migrating existing users and public folders from MS Exchange server. Since rtcyrusv2 "just works" in the existing environment, I didn't even check if there was an update. I saw about RTCyrus3 only when searching a solution to my public folder problem. if it can resolve the mrs_cyrus_mailertable problem, and if it's not too difficult to upgrade rtcyrus2 with it, I'm willing to give it a try. Regards, -- Clément Hermann (nodens) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: [sendmail] lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
nodens2099 wrote: > I'm trying to send mail directly to a shared folder, via the plus-addressing > syntax. > > My user entry redirect to +Folder/subfol...@domain.tld . > > cyrusv2d mailer is called via the mailertable. > > The ACL are ok. > > It would work with a folder in lower case, but not if the folder includes > upper > case characters. > > I thought it was ok to have upper case after the + in the local part of the > address ? > > I tried setting > "lmtp_downcase_rcpt: 0" > in imapd.conf, adding the u flag to the cyrusv2d mailer, but to no avail. > > the +part is always converted to lower case. Post your cyrusv2d definition from sendmail.cf. echo '=M' | sendmail -bt | grep cyrusv2d Does it contain F=u flag? By default sendmail's mailers convert user part of recipient address to lowercase. F=u flag stops it. *BUT* it would apply to "normal recipients" *too*. > initially I tried using the mrs_cyrus_mailertable approach but it was even > worse, as checking +folder/subfol...@domaine.tld with smmap returns unknown > user, even when the folder exists and has the "p" acl. Does smmap return "unknown user" *even for lowercase folders*? > Any clue ? > > I'd really like to avoid converting all existing folders to lower case of > possible, it would be painful. It merely a matter of choosing a simple way you like anyway :-) BTW Why have not you tried RTCyrus3 recipe? [ It would require small "patching" too to meet your requirements ] -- [pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu To err is human, To purr feline. -- Robert Byrne Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
sendmail, lmtp, cyrusv2d, shared folders and case
Hi, I'm trying to send mail directly to a shared folder, via the plus-addressing syntax. My user entry redirect to +Folder/subfol...@domain.tld . cyrusv2d mailer is called via the mailertable. The ACL are ok. It would work with a folder in lower case, but not if the folder includes upper case characters. I thought it was ok to have upper case after the + in the local part of the address ? I tried setting "lmtp_downcase_rcpt: 0" in imapd.conf, adding the u flag to the cyrusv2d mailer, but to no avail. the +part is always converted to lower case. initially I tried using the mrs_cyrus_mailertable approach but it was even worse, as checking +folder/subfol...@domaine.tld with smmap returns unknown user, even when the folder exists and has the "p" acl. Any clue ? I'd really like to avoid converting all existing folders to lower case of possible, it would be painful. Best regards, -- Clément Hermann (nodens) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
