Re: Minimum days between sieve vacation responses
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:37:02PM +0530, Ramprasad wrote: > But our client requires that every mail to "sa...@domain.com"should > immediately get a response ( Business requirements .. not technical ) Sieve is probably the wrong tool for the job. > Assuming that I have methods to avoid looping at the SMTP level .. how > can I do this in cyrus, sieve I would recommend an email autoresponder designed for the job, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoresponder In particular "Today's autoresponders need to be careful to not generate e-mail backscatter, which can result in the autoresponses being considered E-mail spam." I would probably hang something like request-tracker on the sales address, causing every contact to not only get an immediate response, but be trackable from there. Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Minimum days between sieve vacation responses
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 08:24 -0500, k...@rice.edu wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 07:59:07AM +0100, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:22:54PM +0530, Ram wrote: > > > Can I configure sieve to send vacation responses for every message .. > > > rather than waiting for "n" days before responding again to the same > > > sender > > > > Ouch - why? There's a danger of mail loops, amongst other things. > > > > Bron. > > Double ouch, ouch! That is a really, really, REALLY bad idea. We actually > made a work-around within the mail system to make this happen and sooner > or later, in EVERY case, we had a massive mail loop or other type of self- > inflicted DoS against our mail infrastructure. In most of them, the users > themselves received so much mail that their mail clients were unable to > handle the volume and mail administrators were needed to clean things > enough for them to get back to work. > I understand that this may lead to mail loops But our client requires that every mail to "sa...@domain.com"should immediately get a response ( Business requirements .. not technical ) Assuming that I have methods to avoid looping at the SMTP level .. how can I do this in cyrus, sieve Thanks Ram Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Minimum days between sieve vacation responses
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 07:59:07AM +0100, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:22:54PM +0530, Ram wrote: > > Can I configure sieve to send vacation responses for every message .. > > rather than waiting for "n" days before responding again to the same sender > > Ouch - why? There's a danger of mail loops, amongst other things. > > Bron. Double ouch, ouch! That is a really, really, REALLY bad idea. We actually made a work-around within the mail system to make this happen and sooner or later, in EVERY case, we had a massive mail loop or other type of self- inflicted DoS against our mail infrastructure. In most of them, the users themselves received so much mail that their mail clients were unable to handle the volume and mail administrators were needed to clean things enough for them to get back to work. The moral is, if you need this, the implementation is far from trivial and you will need to implement internal controls and feedback loops to prevent these types of problems. Unless you are legally required to do this, figure out another way. Cheers, Ken Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Minimum days between sieve vacation responses
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:22:54PM +0530, Ram wrote: > Can I configure sieve to send vacation responses for every message .. > rather than waiting for "n" days before responding again to the same sender Ouch - why? There's a danger of mail loops, amongst other things. Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Minimum days between sieve vacation responses
Can I configure sieve to send vacation responses for every message .. rather than waiting for "n" days before responding again to the same sender Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/