Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
Jo Rhett wrote: > > On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:38 AM, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: >> ...it's not thunderbirds fault > > Um... I disagree. So do the thunderbird developers. No, they don't. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377900#c11 cyrus has to support 'c' and 'd' flag as required by RFC 4314. They made a quick fix to check the RFC 4314 't' flag, too. And they opened a second 'bug' to implement full RFC 4314 support. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310958 > Fixing the ACL is a backwards hack to support an obsolete IMAP > specification. Updating Thunderbird to properly read the modern flags > was the appropriate fix, which has already been committed to the tree > and may appear in the next update. Again, no. RFC 4314 requires the server to support 'c' and 'd' flag from RFC 2068. And cyrus does it. But as I meantioned before there was a change from cyrus 2.3.7 to 2.3.8. At least 2.3.7 added 'c' and 'd' on the fly while answering ACL requests if the appropriate RFC 4314 flags were set in the stored ACL. cyrus 2.3.8 now writes the 'c' and 'd' flag into the stored ACL. If you're upgrading from 2.3.7 to 2.3.8 some people have missing 'c' and 'd' flags in their ACLs and they are not added automatically anymore. This get's fixed by simply setting the same ACLs again since cyrus sets 'c' and 'd' accordingly now. Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Breyha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.blafasel.at/ Vienna University Computer Center | Austria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:38 AM, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: ...it's not thunderbirds fault Um... I disagree. So do the thunderbird developers. Fixing the ACL is a backwards hack to support an obsolete IMAP specification. Updating Thunderbird to properly read the modern flags was the appropriate fix, which has already been committed to the tree and may appear in the next update. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
On Apr 28, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Forrest Aldrich wrote: This is slightly off-topic; however, I've been referred here because the behavior we're seeing is unexplainable (as of yet). When I update to Thunderbird 2.0, the delete button and menu function is disabled for the account that is on FreeBSD. If you had searched either this list or the thunderbird bugzilla archives you would have found the answer. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
Forrest Aldrich wrote, on 28.04.2007 18:41: > It's been suggested that there may be something different about Cyrus in > the IMAP command sequence - but that seems very vague. I don't see why > it shouldn't just work. I can try recompiling the FreeBSD port and see > if that resolves it. I'm sure my libraries are up-to-date, and > certainly if there were problems I would have seen it by now with other > functions. Look at the thread starting here... http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/archive/message.php?mailbox=archive.info-cyrus&msg=43590 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377900 ...it's not thunderbirds fault and it's "easily" fixed by resetting your ACLs. Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Breyha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.blafasel.at/ Vienna University Computer Center | Austria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
I've made a fresh install on a brand new centos 5 server last week, and upgraded thunderbird to release 2.0.0 on linux (Fedora 6) and windows XP clients and everything is fine. You are right though with the delete icon in the tool bar. Yet it seems to be a problem with the way thunderbird refreshes this icon. This is one test I have done: - create a "test" folder in the inbox (with thunderbird) so that you get several folders (Drafts, Templates, Sent, Trash, Junk,...test...); - highlight one of the emails in the inbox: the delete icon gets red; - click the junk mailbox, the delete icon gets disactivated -> good; - click the test mailbox; the delete icon remains disactivated -> not good; - re-highlight the email in the inbox, the delete icon gets red; - click the test mailbox, the delete icon _remains_ red ->good; - click the templates mailbox, the delete icon gets disactivated -> good So I'd say it's a thunderbird problem. When the delete icon is red you can of course delete the test mailbox. The way it behaves is quite queer! As a matter of fact there is no problem with the contextual menu, as far as I can see. FB Forrest Aldrich wrote: > This is slightly off-topic; however, I've been referred here because the > behavior we're seeing is unexplainable (as of yet). > > I have Cyrus 2.3.8 on FreeBSD_6.1, and on a couple of Linux systems > (Fedora Core 6). > > When I update to Thunderbird 2.0, the delete button and menu function is > disabled for the account that is on FreeBSD. > > When I remain with or downgrade to Thunderbird 1.5, it is fine. > > I posted a message to the Thunderbird forums and I'll continue to pursue > it, perhaps by debugging, etc. > However, I wanted to ask here to see if anyone might have a clue about > why this happens. It's not due to anything theme-orientated, or > plugins. (yes, I've done fresh installs in other locations, and get > the same result). > > The client machines are Windows (XP and Vista). > > It's been suggested that there may be something different about Cyrus in > the IMAP command sequence - but that seems very vague. I don't see why > it shouldn't just work. I can try recompiling the FreeBSD port and see > if that resolves it. I'm sure my libraries are up-to-date, and > certainly if there were problems I would have seen it by now with other > functions. > > > > > Thank you. > > > > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:nom qui appara=C3=AEtra =C3=A0 l'=C3=A9cran n;quoted-printable:nom de famille;pr=C3=A9nom org;quoted-printable:nom de l'entreprise;d=C3=A9partement adr;quoted-printable:adresse de l'entreprise ligne 2;;adresse de l'entreprise ligne 1;ville;=C3=A9tat/province;code postal;pays email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title;quoted-printable:type d'emploi occup=C3=A9 tel;work:telephone travail tel;fax:telephone fax tel;pager:telephone pager tel;home:telephone perso tel;cell:telephone mobile note;quoted-printable:Remarques personnelles sous forme de texte.=0D=0A= =0D=0A= Mauris sed mauris. Vivamus imperdiet. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et mag= nis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Vivamus ac tellus. Nun= c placerat, lacus condimentum semper porttitor, tellus dolor consectetuer= urna, ut malesuada diam quam posuere nisi. Nullam quis sapien sed libero= luctus commodo. Nullam quis est non felis viverra mollis. Donec a massa= in elit laoreet dictum. Donec commodo, tortor vitae iaculis egestas, mi= neque congue ante, vitae pharetra nulla orci id tellus. Praesent et puru= s. Aenean risus nibh, sodales in, congue eget, molestie vel, turpis. Maur= is eu erat sed nibh porttitor interdum. Quisque elementum, metus et molli= s interdum, orci lacus aliquet mauris, sit amet feugiat ipsum nisi sit= amet dolor. In nec mauris quis mi placerat tincidunt. Nullam molestie.= Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Mauris sit ame= t magna in justo eleifend placerat. Proin congue. Pellentesque eleifend= sagittis pede. Suspendisse lacinia. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:page web de l'entreprise version:2.1 end:vcard Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
OT: Cyrus IMAP Interacting with Thunderbird 2.0
This is slightly off-topic; however, I've been referred here because the behavior we're seeing is unexplainable (as of yet). I have Cyrus 2.3.8 on FreeBSD_6.1, and on a couple of Linux systems (Fedora Core 6). When I update to Thunderbird 2.0, the delete button and menu function is disabled for the account that is on FreeBSD. When I remain with or downgrade to Thunderbird 1.5, it is fine. I posted a message to the Thunderbird forums and I'll continue to pursue it, perhaps by debugging, etc. However, I wanted to ask here to see if anyone might have a clue about why this happens. It's not due to anything theme-orientated, or plugins. (yes, I've done fresh installs in other locations, and get the same result). The client machines are Windows (XP and Vista). It's been suggested that there may be something different about Cyrus in the IMAP command sequence - but that seems very vague. I don't see why it shouldn't just work. I can try recompiling the FreeBSD port and see if that resolves it. I'm sure my libraries are up-to-date, and certainly if there were problems I would have seen it by now with other functions. Thank you. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
