Re: [was Re: [OT] Outlook Express: altnamespace issue]

2001-08-03 Thread Randall S. Winchester



MessagingDirect is now ACI Worldwide. The continued direction of their
IMAP server is the Sendmail Advanced Message Server (SAMS). There are
utilities to migrate/upgrade Simeon 1.x, 2.x, and Mstore 3.x to SAMS 1.x
(which is based on Mstore 3.x). If you are not moving forward with the
product line, then you may be better off doing a protocol migration over
IMAP to preserve the flags.

Randall

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Eric Hall wrote:

: (They were ESYS, they merged with ISODE to become MessagingDirect, but
: there are others subscriber who can tell that story...)
:
: Our institution is actually going down this path as well, but have
: hit a speed bump in keeping the message flags in a mailbox conversion.
: seen state is a simple fix, but deleted, replied, etc., are
: presenting a challenge.
:
: Because of our configuration and the scale, other imap-move utilities
: have fallen short, and so I would be interested in hearing anyone
: else's experiences in this or similar endeavors.  Knowing the
: exact lineage of the ESYS-2.1.2 imapd server alone would be of great
: value (knowing the layout of fdb.index would be the solution!)
:
:
: Any help or comment greatly appreciated,
: --
: Eric Hall
: Information Technology Services
: Vanderbilt University
:
: Rob Tanner wrote:
: 
:  It is or used to be called MessagingDirect.  I think they've joined forces
:  with another company in Europe somewhere, and so it may certainly have gone
:  through another name change.  We originally were using their X500, imap and
:  imsp servers.  We have dropped their X500 and imsp servers and will be
:  switching away from the imap server, if not this month, then in September.
:  The non-commercial variant (oops, I mean the original) appears to me to be
:  the superior product.  Cyrus is certainly more responsive to the varying
:  ideosyncratic needs/desires of its user base.
: 
:  -- Rob
:




[was Re: [OT] Outlook Express: altnamespace issue]

2001-08-03 Thread Eric Hall

(They were ESYS, they merged with ISODE to become MessagingDirect, but
there are others subscriber who can tell that story...)

Our institution is actually going down this path as well, but have
hit a speed bump in keeping the message flags in a mailbox conversion.
seen state is a simple fix, but deleted, replied, etc., are
presenting a challenge.

Because of our configuration and the scale, other imap-move utilities
have fallen short, and so I would be interested in hearing anyone
else's experiences in this or similar endeavors.  Knowing the
exact lineage of the ESYS-2.1.2 imapd server alone would be of great
value (knowing the layout of fdb.index would be the solution!)


Any help or comment greatly appreciated,
--
Eric Hall
Information Technology Services
Vanderbilt University

Rob Tanner wrote:
 
 It is or used to be called MessagingDirect.  I think they've joined forces
 with another company in Europe somewhere, and so it may certainly have gone
 through another name change.  We originally were using their X500, imap and
 imsp servers.  We have dropped their X500 and imsp servers and will be
 switching away from the imap server, if not this month, then in September.
 The non-commercial variant (oops, I mean the original) appears to me to be
 the superior product.  Cyrus is certainly more responsive to the varying
 ideosyncratic needs/desires of its user base.
 
 -- Rob



Re: [OT] Outlook Express: altnamespace issue

2001-08-03 Thread Ken Murchison



Simon Loader wrote:
 
  IMHO, the architecture is correct (similar to other commercial variants
  of Cyrus) and the problem lies completely with OE.
 
 
 Out of interest what are the commercial variants
 of cyrus ? The only one I think I know of is some
 Canadian company of which the name escapes me.

The only one that I know of for sure is Messaging Direct's M-Store. 
This is probably the one that you are thinking of -- they are based in
Edmonton.

Larry or Walter may know of others.

Ken
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