Re: HTML-formatted mails [was: Re: Question about Autocreate patch.]

2003-06-23 Thread Kevin J Menard
I'm really not trying to help fuel a flame war here, and I'm not a big fan
of HTML e-mail myself, but that seems a bit harsh.  You're really getting
into an issue of personal preference here, despite what netiquette may
prescribe.  Typing e-mails in all lowercase is considered poor netiquette
as well, so ought we have a grammar parser installed on the server too?

Anyway, it would seem to me that at the end of the day, this is probably a
client issue anyway.  If a client wishes to display HTML, then great, and
if wishes not to, also great.  The latter should not be all that difficult
to implement (my usual MUA seems to handle it rather well), but if it
can't then just delete the posts on site.  If people are asking questions
with HTML e-mail and it bothers enough people that the question never gets
answered, then that person will either have to change or go without help.

But to me, this issue is rather a waste of time.  It's like arguing over
the style of brace usage in the Cyrus source code.  And now I feel a bit
silly for having wasted even more time on the matter, but I was hoping to
spare the list some trouble if CMU took your suggestion to heart.

-- 
Kevin

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Robert Urban wrote:


 is it naive of me to think that it might be possible to train users
 of this list not to send HTML-formatted mails to the list?

 that perhaps with constant reminders and pointers to the appropriate
 documentation on netiquette things might improve?

 any chance of configuring the list server to reject mails containing HTML?

 Rob Urban

 http://www.tfl.net/maillistfaq.html
 http://www.imperialclub.com/GettingStarted/MailingLists/Etiquette.html
 http://www.openz.org/list_etiquette.php
 http://www.efn.no/html-bad.html
 http://www.writerswrite.com/journal/dec99/pirillo1.htm
 http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel/mail/mail02/text10.html

 In PDF, but very nicely done:
 http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/staff/Cate/Back0999.pdf

 other lists' policies:
 http://www.histology.to/listservers.html
 http://www.rockandwater.net/list-policies.html
 http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/food-law/msg02330.html
 http://lyrictracker.com/main.php?action=nug-rules

 tips for turning off HTML in various clients:
 http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/a/et070103.htm

 Drew Weaver wrote:
  Howdy, I got the autocreate patch working and its very nice, the only =
  thing im trying to figure out is this. If I userdel a user, why does =
  sendmail still deliver mail as if the user still exists? Shouldnt =
  sendmail say, hey uh this user doesnt exist, and return the message?
 
  -Drew
 
  !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
  HTMLHEAD
  META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
  META content=MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170 name=GENERATOR
  STYLE/STYLE
  /HEAD
  BODY bgColor=#ff
  DIVFONT face=Arial size=2Howdy, I got the autocreate patch working and its
  very nice, the only thing im trying to figure out is this. If I userdel a user,
  why does sendmail still deliver mail as if the user still exists? Shouldnt
  sendmail say, hey uh this user doesnt exist, and return the
  message?/FONT/DIV
  DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
  DIVFONT face=Arial size=2-Drew/FONT/DIV
  DIVnbsp;/DIV/BODY/HTML
 









Re: HTML-formatted mails [was: Re: Question about Autocreate patch.]

2003-06-23 Thread Carl P. Corliss
On Monday 23 June 2003 08:24 am, Robert Urban wrote:
 is it naive of me to think that it might be possible to train users
 of this list not to send HTML-formatted mails to the list?

 that perhaps with constant reminders and pointers to the appropriate
 documentation on netiquette things might improve?

 any chance of configuring the list server to reject mails containing HTML?

 Rob Urban

It would seem best, imo, to just install DeMIME for the mailing lists - that 
way people could go about their normal routine. DeMIME basically just strips 
out the MIME portion of an email and leaves the normal text version of it. If 
there isn't a text version, it does it's best to convert the HTML version to 
a text one.

http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html 


-- 
Carl P. Corliss
System Administrator / Developer
www.xaraya.com