RE : Vacation problem

2003-01-23 Thread John Hughes
Here's the problem:

$ telnet mail.intellinetinc.com smtp
Trying 139.142.54.37...
Connected to h139-142-54-37.gtcust.grouptelecom.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 intellinetinc.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.4/8.12.4; Thu, 23 Jan 2003
01:28:23 -0700 (MST)
ehlo joe
250-intellinetinc.com Hello franconia.calvaedi.com [213.39.1.226],
pleased to meet you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-EXPN
250-VERB
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
mail from: 
550 5.7.1 ... Command rejected

That's bad.  See rfc1123, section 5.2.9, or 
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-dsn.php

Not a cyrus bug, a sendmail configuration bug.





Re: Vacation problem

2003-01-22 Thread John Alton Tamplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm wondering why cyrus setting sender to , not to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or 
even postmaster as I made configuration in my imapd.conf?
May be I missed something?

You don't want an auto-generated message generating a bounce message, 
since that could lead to an infinite loop.  Thus, just like 
mailer-daemon messages in the MTA, a vacation message should have the 
envelope from set to .

--
John A. Tamplin   Unix System Administrator
Emory University, School of Public Health +1 404/727-9931





Re: Vacation problem

2003-01-22 Thread dimon
Quoting John Alton Tamplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm wondering why cyrus setting sender to , not to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 or 
 even postmaster as I made configuration in my imapd.conf?
 May be I missed something?
 
 You don't want an auto-generated message generating a bounce message, 
 since that could lead to an infinite loop.  Thus, just like 
 mailer-daemon messages in the MTA, a vacation message should have the 
 envelope from set to .
 

So what is you suggestion? How do I fix this problem? Why the mail server 
doesn't accept the message if the envelope from set right?




Re: Vacation problem

2003-01-22 Thread John Alton Tamplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So what is you suggestion? How do I fix this problem? Why the mail server 
doesn't accept the message if the envelope from set right?

It is hard to tell from the logs since you are using 4 different email 
addresses, but it looks like sieve tried to send mail from  (which 
sendmail accepted, but gave an authentication warning since cyrus isn't 
listed as a trusted user in your sendmail.cf file) to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  That gets sent, apparently to the same 
MTA, which then has a problem talking to the relay 
mail.montana-education.ab.ca.  It then tries to send it to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (presumably an alias from postmaster), and 
again has a problem talking to mail.intellinetinc.com and panics since 
it has nowhere to send the bounce message.  So, it looks like Cyrus is 
fine but your MTA is misconfigured.

--
John A. Tamplin   Unix System Administrator
Emory University, School of Public Health +1 404/727-9931





Re: Vacation problem

2003-01-22 Thread dimon
Quoting John Alton Tamplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So what is you suggestion? How do I fix this problem? Why the mail server 
 doesn't accept the message if the envelope from set right?
 
 It is hard to tell from the logs since you are using 4 different email 
 addresses, but it looks like sieve tried to send mail from  (which 
 sendmail accepted, but gave an authentication warning since cyrus isn't 
 listed as a trusted user in your sendmail.cf file) to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  That gets sent, apparently to the same 
 MTA, which then has a problem talking to the relay 
 mail.montana-education.ab.ca.  It then tries to send it to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (presumably an alias from postmaster), and 
 again has a problem talking to mail.intellinetinc.com and panics since 
 it has nowhere to send the bounce message.  So, it looks like Cyrus is 
 fine but your MTA is misconfigured.
 

I did some code change in lmtpd.c in function send_response (line 872):
I changed smbuf[3] = ; to smbuf[3] = [EMAIL PROTECTED];
And it worked fine. Assuming that, I think the problem is in  MTA (Sendmail in 
my case) configuration. BUT I didn't configured my sendmail to refuse empty 
Return-Path: 
I suspect Sendmail is configured to do that by default. And I'm sure there are 
thousands MTAs doing the same thing (let's say to reject spam messages using 
empty Return-Path)
I'm not sure whose problem is that, cyrus or MTA but by defaulf installation 
(and wothout some code change in lmtpd.c) it simply does'n work!

Dmitry