Re[2]: Cyrus IMAP question.
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Denis V. Suhanov wrote:
> Hello Andrew,
>
> AM> What you see as the Cyrus admin is a little different that what an IMAP
> AM> user sees. "user.test" is the Inbox folder, but user's access it as
> AM> "INBOX". Unless you have set altnamespace: yes in your imapd.conf file,
> AM> you should set your Root Folder Path to "INBOX." (note the period after
> AM> INBOX).
> I tried the "INBOX.", but even with the period after INBOX, I receive
> the same message in M$ Outlook Express ("your specified Root Folder of
> 'INBOX' could not neither be found nor created..."). With Mozilla
> Thunderbird, I just see nothing (no error message, no folders, no
> messages). So the presence of the period did not change anything.
I use altnamespace: yes here, so these docs won't work exactly right, but
you might try the documentation we have written for configuring clients to
use Cyrus IMAP:
http://www.onid.orst.edu/docs/email/
Basically, you should just need to add the Root Folder Path setting of
"INBOX." to these instructions. Also, you *must* refresh the folder
listing in the email client. Outlook Express does not automatically do
this on an existing account. For testing purposes at least, I'd delete
all the account settings in the email client and set it up from scratch,
using the instructions above.
> >> I am trying to manually create an inbox folder for users, something
> >> like 'cm user.test.INBOX' and try to deliver one's main to this
> >> manually created folder. This is to put all the folder (Sent Items,
> >> Drafts etc) under the same 'user.test' and make it look good. I tried
> >> to find something on the Net but failed. Is there a way for me to
> AM> "user.test" is the INBOX, as seen from the admin viewpoint. Mail
> AM> delivered to user "test" will go into that mailbox. Subfolders would be
> AM> "user.test.subfolder" from the admin viewpoint and "INBOX.subfolder" from
> AM> the user viewpoint.
>
> But in the mail clients, they usually have something like "Inbox",
> "Sent Items", "Drafts" etc located under the same root. So by creating
> additional folder named 'Inbox' manually under user's INBOX (which is
> user.username), I tried to make it work without having user.username
> in my mail clients (which is not just sort of ugly, but also prevent
> the clients from being able to store appropriate messages on server).
> Is is a wrong approach?
For maximum compatibility and ease of use, I'd recommend setting
altnamespace: yes in imapd.conf. Otherwise, you *have* to set the Root
Folder Path to "INBOX." to get folders to work. Read the documentation
for altnamespace before you make this change. Basically, nothing changes
on the server side (except sieve filters), but you eliminate the needs to
set the Root Folder Prefix on every client. Most clients will work out of
the box this way (no special settings, just use the New Account Wizards).
> Most likely it is somewhat stupid I've done, but I really can not
> realize what that is. Also, as I mentioned in the previos "cry for
> help" message, I am unable to get a pop3 connection. The error message
> is
I don't know much about the pop side of things. We only run imap here.
I'd start by getting one of your imap clients working to make sure cyrus
is happy, then work on the pop problem.
Andy
Re: Re[2]: Cyrus IMAP question.
It sounds like it cannot find the mailbox where it wants to--in the
/var/cyrus/partition/users/ directory. Did you create the
mailboxes?
c*
- Original Message -
From: "Denis V. Suhanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "cyrus info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:45 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Cyrus IMAP question.
> Hello Andrew,
>
> AM> What you see as the Cyrus admin is a little different that what an
IMAP
> AM> user sees. "user.test" is the Inbox folder, but user's access it as
> AM> "INBOX". Unless you have set altnamespace: yes in your imapd.conf
file,
> AM> you should set your Root Folder Path to "INBOX." (note the period
after
> AM> INBOX).
> I tried the "INBOX.", but even with the period after INBOX, I receive
> the same message in M$ Outlook Express ("your specified Root Folder of
> 'INBOX' could not neither be found nor created..."). With Mozilla
> Thunderbird, I just see nothing (no error message, no folders, no
> messages). So the presence of the period did not change anything.
>
> >> I am trying to manually create an inbox folder for users, something
> >> like 'cm user.test.INBOX' and try to deliver one's main to this
> >> manually created folder. This is to put all the folder (Sent Items,
> >> Drafts etc) under the same 'user.test' and make it look good. I tried
> >> to find something on the Net but failed. Is there a way for me to
> AM> "user.test" is the INBOX, as seen from the admin viewpoint. Mail
> AM> delivered to user "test" will go into that mailbox. Subfolders would
be
> AM> "user.test.subfolder" from the admin viewpoint and "INBOX.subfolder"
from
> AM> the user viewpoint.
>
> But in the mail clients, they usually have something like "Inbox",
> "Sent Items", "Drafts" etc located under the same root. So by creating
> additional folder named 'Inbox' manually under user's INBOX (which is
> user.username), I tried to make it work without having user.username
> in my mail clients (which is not just sort of ugly, but also prevent
> the clients from being able to store appropriate messages on server).
> Is is a wrong approach?
>
> Most likely it is somewhat stupid I've done, but I really can not
> realize what that is. Also, as I mentioned in the previos "cry for
> help" message, I am unable to get a pop3 connection. The error message
> is
>
> !18.09.2003, 13:35:06: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
> -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to open maildrop
>
> that makes me suspect that the problem of invalid (from client's view)
> INBOXes is somewhat related to the pop3 as well. I am reallyl confused
> now and have no slightest clue what to do further.
>
> here is my imapd.conf:
>
> configdirectory: /var/cyrus/imap
> partition-default: /var/cyrus/partition
> admins: cyrus
> allowanonymouslogin: no
> sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop
> sasl_auxprop_plugin: sasldb
> sasl_mech_list: CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
> sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail
> sievedir: /var/cyrus/sieve
> tls_ca_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
> tls_cert_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
> tls_key_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
>
> and cyrusd.conf:
>
> # standard standalone server implementation
> START {
> # do not delete this entry!
> recover cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r"
>
> # this is only necessary if using idled for IMAP IDLE
> idled cmd="idled"
> }
>
> # UNIX sockets start with a slash and are put into /var/cyrus/imap/sockets
> SERVICES {
> # add or remove based on preferences
> imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=5
> imaps cmd="imapd -s" listen="imaps" prefork=5
> pop3 cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=5
> pop3s cmd="pop3d -s" listen="pop3s" prefork=5
> # sieve cmd="timsieved" listen="sieve" prefork=0
>
> # at least one LMTP is required for delivery
> # lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0
> lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/cyrus/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=1
>
> # this is only necessary if using notifications
> # notify cmd="notifyd" listen="/var/cyrus/imap/socket/notify"
proto="udp"
> prefork=1
> }
>
> EVENTS {
> # this is required
> checkpointcmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=30
>
> # this is only necessary if using duplicate delivery suppression
> delprune cmd="ctl_deliver -E 3" at=0400
>
> # this is only necessary if caching TLS sessions
> tlsprune cmd="tls_prune" at=0400
> }
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your help guys. I am really getting close to give up,
> set pop3a back and never use IMAP anymore :)
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Denismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
Re[2]: Cyrus IMAP question.
Hello Andrew,
AM> What you see as the Cyrus admin is a little different that what an IMAP
AM> user sees. "user.test" is the Inbox folder, but user's access it as
AM> "INBOX". Unless you have set altnamespace: yes in your imapd.conf file,
AM> you should set your Root Folder Path to "INBOX." (note the period after
AM> INBOX).
I tried the "INBOX.", but even with the period after INBOX, I receive
the same message in M$ Outlook Express ("your specified Root Folder of
'INBOX' could not neither be found nor created..."). With Mozilla
Thunderbird, I just see nothing (no error message, no folders, no
messages). So the presence of the period did not change anything.
>> I am trying to manually create an inbox folder for users, something
>> like 'cm user.test.INBOX' and try to deliver one's main to this
>> manually created folder. This is to put all the folder (Sent Items,
>> Drafts etc) under the same 'user.test' and make it look good. I tried
>> to find something on the Net but failed. Is there a way for me to
AM> "user.test" is the INBOX, as seen from the admin viewpoint. Mail
AM> delivered to user "test" will go into that mailbox. Subfolders would be
AM> "user.test.subfolder" from the admin viewpoint and "INBOX.subfolder" from
AM> the user viewpoint.
But in the mail clients, they usually have something like "Inbox",
"Sent Items", "Drafts" etc located under the same root. So by creating
additional folder named 'Inbox' manually under user's INBOX (which is
user.username), I tried to make it work without having user.username
in my mail clients (which is not just sort of ugly, but also prevent
the clients from being able to store appropriate messages on server).
Is is a wrong approach?
Most likely it is somewhat stupid I've done, but I really can not
realize what that is. Also, as I mentioned in the previos "cry for
help" message, I am unable to get a pop3 connection. The error message
is
!18.09.2003, 13:35:06: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
-ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to open maildrop
that makes me suspect that the problem of invalid (from client's view)
INBOXes is somewhat related to the pop3 as well. I am reallyl confused
now and have no slightest clue what to do further.
here is my imapd.conf:
configdirectory: /var/cyrus/imap
partition-default: /var/cyrus/partition
admins: cyrus
allowanonymouslogin: no
sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop
sasl_auxprop_plugin: sasldb
sasl_mech_list: CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail
sievedir: /var/cyrus/sieve
tls_ca_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
tls_cert_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
tls_key_file: /var/cyrus/imap/server.pem
and cyrusd.conf:
# standard standalone server implementation
START {
# do not delete this entry!
recover cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r"
# this is only necessary if using idled for IMAP IDLE
idled cmd="idled"
}
# UNIX sockets start with a slash and are put into /var/cyrus/imap/sockets
SERVICES {
# add or remove based on preferences
imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=5
imaps cmd="imapd -s" listen="imaps" prefork=5
pop3 cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=5
pop3s cmd="pop3d -s" listen="pop3s" prefork=5
# sieve cmd="timsieved" listen="sieve" prefork=0
# at least one LMTP is required for delivery
# lmtp cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=0
lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/cyrus/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=1
# this is only necessary if using notifications
# notify cmd="notifyd" listen="/var/cyrus/imap/socket/notify" proto="udp"
prefork=1
}
EVENTS {
# this is required
checkpointcmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=30
# this is only necessary if using duplicate delivery suppression
delprune cmd="ctl_deliver -E 3" at=0400
# this is only necessary if caching TLS sessions
tlsprune cmd="tls_prune" at=0400
}
Thanks a lot for your help guys. I am really getting close to give up,
set pop3a back and never use IMAP anymore :)
--
Best regards,
Denismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
