Re: Site-wide Sieve script

2003-11-07 Thread Alexandros Vellis
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:15:54 -0800
Jules Agee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then I put up a web page accessible
 to users who want spam control, with instructions for setting up their
 own sieve filters, and a link to the sieve cgi. That way, they can
 choose the spam score that they want to filter on, they can choose
 whether to discard it, or file it into a folder to periodically check
 for false positives (recommended).

BTW, [OFF], the Squirrelmail plugin also supports a spam rule function
for Joe User, since version 0.9.7, with a 'simple' and 'advanced'
configuration page. The philosophy is the same with yours.

Together with Cyrus's ipurge and the 'junkfolder' plugin for
Squirrelmail, you can also provide automatic purging with a really
simple, user-friendly interface.

With regard to the original question, I'm guessing that whatever
program/script creates your users in whatever your authentication
method, could be modified to create a default SIEVE script in the proper
directory spool/sieve/.. as well, and that script be made active.? A
little cumbersome as opposed to a site-wide SIEVE script, but it might
just work.


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Re: Site-wide Sieve script

2003-11-07 Thread Sarwar Ansari
Alexandros Vellis wrote:

 BTW, [OFF], the Squirrelmail plugin also supports a spam rule function
 for Joe User, since version 0.9.7, with a 'simple' and 'advanced'
 configuration page. The philosophy is the same with yours.

Yes Iam offerring avelsieve for per user email filtering.

 With regard to the original question, I'm guessing that whatever
 program/script creates your users in whatever your authentication
 method, could be modified to create a default SIEVE script in the proper
 directory spool/sieve/.. as well, and that script be made active.? A
 little cumbersome as opposed to a site-wide SIEVE script, but it might
 just work.

I was thinking on the same lines,
while a user is added to the  database , using your patch for cyrus
users INBOX/Sent INBOX/Trash  would be auto created on post.

simultaneously script would also add default
fileinto INBOX/Spam folder sieve script
to /usr/sieve/u/username.domain directory.
and this would have the same affect as
site-wide sieve script.

Regards

Sarwar Ansari



Site-wide Sieve script

2003-11-06 Thread Sarwar Ansari
Hello,

I am using spamassassin to to tag spam
and would like to file the spam in users
INBOX/Spam folder.

Is it possible to have a site-wide
sieve script which will filter all the
incoming mails, and be called before the
per user sieve scripts.

This would save users the hassle of
explicitly invoking the anti-spam sieve
script, to file spam when they first sign-in.

will appreciate insights  by sys admins already
using spamassassin to filter spam,
and file it in spam folder.

Regards

Sarwar Ansari


Re: Site-wide Sieve script

2003-11-06 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Sarwar Ansari wrote:

 I am using spamassassin to to tag spam
 and would like to file the spam in users
 INBOX/Spam folder.

 Is it possible to have a site-wide
 sieve script which will filter all the
 incoming mails, and be called before the
 per user sieve scripts.

No.

 This would save users the hassle of
 explicitly invoking the anti-spam sieve
 script, to file spam when they first sign-in.

 will appreciate insights  by sys admins already
 using spamassassin to filter spam,
 and file it in spam folder.

It also might have wierd interactions with a user's script.  What if the
user's script executes a discard/reject but yours executes a fileinto?
Certainly what the user expects may not be exactly what happens.

-Rob

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Re: Site-wide Sieve script

2003-11-06 Thread Jules Agee
No site-wide sieve scripts.

I set up SpamAssassin so it only adds an X-Spam-Status and spam score 
headers to each message. That way, by default SA is completely 
transparent to the users, no action is taken by default except adding 
that header. I also set up a cgi interface for sieve (similar to the one 
included with SquirrelMail). Then I put up a web page accessible to 
users who want spam control, with instructions for setting up their own 
sieve filters, and a link to the sieve cgi. That way, they can choose 
the spam score that they want to filter on, they can choose whether to 
discard it, or file it into a folder to periodically check for false 
positives (recommended). The users also have the option of using filters 
built into their mail client if they would rather not use sieve.

The biggest advantage to this setup from my point of view is that if 
there are any lost messages the users can't blame us. :-)

So far, it has been a success, despite the fact that spammers have been 
getting better at dodging SpamAssassin lately.  I'm currently using 
Mozilla 1.4's built-in bayes filter to catch the spam that gets past SA.

-Jules Agee

Sarwar Ansari wrote:

Hello,

I am using spamassassin to to tag spam
and would like to file the spam in users
INBOX/Spam folder.
Is it possible to have a site-wide
sieve script which will filter all the
incoming mails, and be called before the
per user sieve scripts.
This would save users the hassle of
explicitly invoking the anti-spam sieve
script, to file spam when they first sign-in.
will appreciate insights  by sys admins already
using spamassassin to filter spam,
and file it in spam folder.
Regards

Sarwar Ansari
 



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