Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Simon Matter wrote: Simon Matter wrote: snipped a bunch of stuff to keep things readable I seem to have scripts created by both websieve and avelsieve, but I do know that we have been managing sieve through squirrelmail for a very long time. Looks like the websieve scripts haven't been touched since 2007. So, I think I'm back to where I was. Avelsieve was working on the last machine, but isn't working now. I'm pretty sure I have copied all configs over. How can I increase logging, so I can see what is happening when I get the time-out? thanks, maria Which Versions of cyrus do you have installed on the new and the old mailserver? And does Avelsieve use Net_Sieve? If yes which version of Net_Sieve do you have installed. old cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-13 avelsieve 1.9.7-2 new cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-14+lenny3 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 avelsieve does not appear to use Net_Sieve. Which version of PHP do you have on old and new? Simon Well, this is interesting. old: montoya:~# dpkg -l |grep php ii libapache-mod-php46:4.4.4-9+lenny1 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii libphp-phpmailer 1.73-6 full featured email transfer class for PHP ii libphp-snoopy 1.2.4-1Snoopy is a PHP class that simulates a web b ii php4-common 6:4.4.4-9+lenny1 Common files for packages built from the php ii php4-ldap 6:4.4.4-9+lenny1 LDAP module for php4 ii php5 5.2.4-2 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii php5-common 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 Common files for packages built from the php ii php5-gd 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 GD module for php5 ii php5-ldap 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 LDAP module for php5 ii php5-mysql5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 MySQL module for php5 new: ella:~# dpkg -l |grep php ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module ii php5-common 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 Common files for packages built from the php5 source ii php5-ldap 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 LDAP module for php5 I'm not sure how to figure out which php packages avelsieve was actually using. There is no executable to check libraries, and there is not a version of php listed in dependencies for the package. I'm afraid I can't help you much with the debian specific things, I have no idea how debian handles such parallel installs of multiple PHP versions. What I know is that there is a difference when using avelsieve with PHP4 or 5 concerning STARTTLS. With PHP4, no STARTTLS is used, while with PHP5 it is used - and I think that's where changes were made in avelsieve-1.9.8 so you can configure what to do with STARTTLS when using PHP5. Now, if you have everything installed from debian packages, I think it should work an if it doesn't, you may contact the package maintainers about it. We don't know which patches have been included in your avelsieve package. Regards, Simon Yup, I found a bug. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=547648 cheers, maria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Simon Matter wrote: Hi there, I tried posting this on the squirrelmail plugin mailing list, but didn't get a response, so thought maybe someone on this list might be able to give me a hint, since I know a lot of you have sieve set up with cyrus and squirrelmail. Feel free to tell me this is the wrong list, and I will try elsewhere, but if someone can help, I would be very grateful. I recently moved my mail server to a new server, and have managed to get everything working except for sieve access through squirrelmail. I hope this mail isn't too confusing, but wanted to lay out a few different possibilities for what might be going on. Initially, when I tried to go to filters after logging into squirrelmail, squirrelmail would hang, and eventually time out with no error messages (just a reset by peer, I think). I tried going into imapd.conf and turning off tls for sieve to see if there was an authentication problem: sieve_tls_cert_file: disable When I do this, then I get an error message when I click on filters: Warning: stream_socket_enable_crypto() [function.stream-socket-enable-crypto]: SSL operation failed with code 1. OpenSSL Error messages: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/avelsieve/include/managesieve.lib.php on line 514 ERROR: Could not log on to timsieved daemon on your IMAP server localhost:2000. Error Encountered: 255 Please contact your administrator. I looked at the managesieve.lib.php script, and I noticed that it uses php4, but I am using php5. But, it seems kind of strange that it would require php4, since this is the stable package for debian with default settings, and I didn't have any dependency issues installing, so I'm not sure this is the problem. squirrelmail2:1.4.15-4+lenny2 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 TLS/SSL works for eveything else (imap,imaps,smtp,and apache), so I'm a little bit suspicious for that being the problem. Something I did notice was that in the previous installation, we seemed to be using something called websieve, although we also had the avelsieve plugin installed. I copied the websieve directory, but I haven't found any documentation about how websieve is different from avelsieve or whether you can use both, or how squirrelmail/avelsieve/websieve interact. I think I need to get rid of websieve, and just use avelsieve, but I'm not sure about this. Would I run into problems if I just got rid of the websieve directory? How is avelsieve suppose to interact with squirrelmail? Hi, From you previous mail I got the impression that you have used avelsieve in the past. Now, did you use avelsieve or websieve (or both). At least I think using both at the same time doesn't make much sense. Avelsieve uses comments in your sieve scripts to store it's metadata and other tools won't understand them. On one host running RHEL4 (which means PHP 4) I'm running avelsieve-1.9.8 and in it's config file I see this: /** * @var boolean Disable STARTTLS for ManageSieve. You can set this to true, * if you do not wish to use encryption via TLS mechanisms (i.e. the server * is not configured properly, or this is a local connection and TLS is not * needed. * Note that STARTTLS is supported only in PHP5+. In PHP4 this option will * have no effect and STARTTLS will be disabled anyway. */ global $avelsieve_disabletls; $avelsieve_disabletls = false; I was using avelsieve 1.9.7 before and a patch was needed to get the same behaviour. The patch is attached, don't remember where I got it, I think from avelsieve CVS. That said, I have used it to run sieve on the local host with STARTTLS. If you want to use STARTTLS then I don't know how to make it work. Regards, Simon Thanks Simon, I don't seem to have anything about tls in my avelsieve-config.php file. I seem to have both websieve and avelsieve on the previous installation, and I'm not sure which was actually being used. Where in the config files would I find out which one was actually being used? thanks, maria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Simon Matter wrote: Hi there, I tried posting this on the squirrelmail plugin mailing list, but didn't get a response, so thought maybe someone on this list might be able to give me a hint, since I know a lot of you have sieve set up with cyrus and squirrelmail. Feel free to tell me this is the wrong list, and I will try elsewhere, but if someone can help, I would be very grateful. I recently moved my mail server to a new server, and have managed to get everything working except for sieve access through squirrelmail. I hope this mail isn't too confusing, but wanted to lay out a few different possibilities for what might be going on. Initially, when I tried to go to filters after logging into squirrelmail, squirrelmail would hang, and eventually time out with no error messages (just a reset by peer, I think). I tried going into imapd.conf and turning off tls for sieve to see if there was an authentication problem: sieve_tls_cert_file: disable When I do this, then I get an error message when I click on filters: Warning: stream_socket_enable_crypto() [function.stream-socket-enable-crypto]: SSL operation failed with code 1. OpenSSL Error messages: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/avelsieve/include/managesieve.lib.php on line 514 ERROR: Could not log on to timsieved daemon on your IMAP server localhost:2000. Error Encountered: 255 Please contact your administrator. I looked at the managesieve.lib.php script, and I noticed that it uses php4, but I am using php5. But, it seems kind of strange that it would require php4, since this is the stable package for debian with default settings, and I didn't have any dependency issues installing, so I'm not sure this is the problem. squirrelmail2:1.4.15-4+lenny2 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 TLS/SSL works for eveything else (imap,imaps,smtp,and apache), so I'm a little bit suspicious for that being the problem. Something I did notice was that in the previous installation, we seemed to be using something called websieve, although we also had the avelsieve plugin installed. I copied the websieve directory, but I haven't found any documentation about how websieve is different from avelsieve or whether you can use both, or how squirrelmail/avelsieve/websieve interact. I think I need to get rid of websieve, and just use avelsieve, but I'm not sure about this. Would I run into problems if I just got rid of the websieve directory? How is avelsieve suppose to interact with squirrelmail? Hi, From you previous mail I got the impression that you have used avelsieve in the past. Now, did you use avelsieve or websieve (or both). At least I think using both at the same time doesn't make much sense. Avelsieve uses comments in your sieve scripts to store it's metadata and other tools won't understand them. On one host running RHEL4 (which means PHP 4) I'm running avelsieve-1.9.8 and in it's config file I see this: /** * @var boolean Disable STARTTLS for ManageSieve. You can set this to true, * if you do not wish to use encryption via TLS mechanisms (i.e. the server * is not configured properly, or this is a local connection and TLS is not * needed. * Note that STARTTLS is supported only in PHP5+. In PHP4 this option will * have no effect and STARTTLS will be disabled anyway. */ global $avelsieve_disabletls; $avelsieve_disabletls = false; I was using avelsieve 1.9.7 before and a patch was needed to get the same behaviour. The patch is attached, don't remember where I got it, I think from avelsieve CVS. That said, I have used it to run sieve on the local host with STARTTLS. If you want to use STARTTLS then I don't know how to make it work. Regards, Simon Thanks Simon, I don't seem to have anything about tls in my avelsieve-config.php file. I seem to have both websieve and avelsieve on the previous installation, and I'm not sure which was actually being used. Where in the config files would I find out which one was actually being used? I don't think websieve was used with squirrelmail but standalone. At least I never heard of a websieve plugin for squirrelmail, but I know a tool named websieve which has no relation to squirrelmail. If you want to know how your sieve scripts were managed, you may just look at the script on your imap server. If they have been created with avelsieve then you will find lot's of comment string from avelsieve. Regards, Simon Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Hi, Quoting Maria McKinley ma...@shadlen.org: Simon Matter wrote: Simon Matter wrote: Hi there, I tried posting this on the squirrelmail plugin mailing list, but didn't get a response, so thought maybe someone on this list might be able to give me a hint, since I know a lot of you have sieve set up with cyrus and squirrelmail. Feel free to tell me this is the wrong list, and I will try elsewhere, but if someone can help, I would be very grateful. I recently moved my mail server to a new server, and have managed to get everything working except for sieve access through squirrelmail. I hope this mail isn't too confusing, but wanted to lay out a few different possibilities for what might be going on. Initially, when I tried to go to filters after logging into squirrelmail, squirrelmail would hang, and eventually time out with no error messages (just a reset by peer, I think). I tried going into imapd.conf and turning off tls for sieve to see if there was an authentication problem: sieve_tls_cert_file: disable When I do this, then I get an error message when I click on filters: Warning: stream_socket_enable_crypto() [function.stream-socket-enable-crypto]: SSL operation failed with code 1. OpenSSL Error messages: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/avelsieve/include/managesieve.lib.php on line 514 ERROR: Could not log on to timsieved daemon on your IMAP server localhost:2000. Error Encountered: 255 Please contact your administrator. I looked at the managesieve.lib.php script, and I noticed that it uses php4, but I am using php5. But, it seems kind of strange that it would require php4, since this is the stable package for debian with default settings, and I didn't have any dependency issues installing, so I'm not sure this is the problem. squirrelmail2:1.4.15-4+lenny2 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 TLS/SSL works for eveything else (imap,imaps,smtp,and apache), so I'm a little bit suspicious for that being the problem. Something I did notice was that in the previous installation, we seemed to be using something called websieve, although we also had the avelsieve plugin installed. I copied the websieve directory, but I haven't found any documentation about how websieve is different from avelsieve or whether you can use both, or how squirrelmail/avelsieve/websieve interact. I think I need to get rid of websieve, and just use avelsieve, but I'm not sure about this. Would I run into problems if I just got rid of the websieve directory? How is avelsieve suppose to interact with squirrelmail? Hi, From you previous mail I got the impression that you have used avelsieve in the past. Now, did you use avelsieve or websieve (or both). At least I think using both at the same time doesn't make much sense. Avelsieve uses comments in your sieve scripts to store it's metadata and other tools won't understand them. On one host running RHEL4 (which means PHP 4) I'm running avelsieve-1.9.8 and in it's config file I see this: /** * @var boolean Disable STARTTLS for ManageSieve. You can set this to true, * if you do not wish to use encryption via TLS mechanisms (i.e. the server * is not configured properly, or this is a local connection and TLS is not * needed. * Note that STARTTLS is supported only in PHP5+. In PHP4 this option will * have no effect and STARTTLS will be disabled anyway. */ global $avelsieve_disabletls; $avelsieve_disabletls = false; I was using avelsieve 1.9.7 before and a patch was needed to get the same behaviour. The patch is attached, don't remember where I got it, I think from avelsieve CVS. That said, I have used it to run sieve on the local host with STARTTLS. If you want to use STARTTLS then I don't know how to make it work. Regards, Simon Thanks Simon, I don't seem to have anything about tls in my avelsieve-config.php file. I seem to have both websieve and avelsieve on the previous installation, and I'm not sure which was actually being used. Where in the config files would I find out which one was actually being used? I don't think websieve was used with squirrelmail but standalone. At least I never heard of a websieve plugin for squirrelmail, but I know a tool named websieve which has no relation to squirrelmail. If you want to know how your sieve scripts were managed, you may just look at the script on your imap server. If they have been created with avelsieve then you will find lot's of comment string from avelsieve. Regards, Simon I seem to have scripts created by both websieve and avelsieve, but I do know that we have been managing sieve through squirrelmail for a very long time. Looks like the websieve scripts haven't been touched since 2007. So, I think I'm back to where I was. Avelsieve was working on the last machine, but isn't working now. I'm pretty sure I have copied all configs over. How can I increase logging, so I can see what is happening when
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
snipped a bunch of stuff to keep things readable I seem to have scripts created by both websieve and avelsieve, but I do know that we have been managing sieve through squirrelmail for a very long time. Looks like the websieve scripts haven't been touched since 2007. So, I think I'm back to where I was. Avelsieve was working on the last machine, but isn't working now. I'm pretty sure I have copied all configs over. How can I increase logging, so I can see what is happening when I get the time-out? thanks, maria Which Versions of cyrus do you have installed on the new and the old mailserver? And does Avelsieve use Net_Sieve? If yes which version of Net_Sieve do you have installed. old cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-13 avelsieve 1.9.7-2 new cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-14+lenny3 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 avelsieve does not appear to use Net_Sieve. Which version of PHP do you have on old and new? Simon Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Simon Matter wrote: snipped a bunch of stuff to keep things readable I seem to have scripts created by both websieve and avelsieve, but I do know that we have been managing sieve through squirrelmail for a very long time. Looks like the websieve scripts haven't been touched since 2007. So, I think I'm back to where I was. Avelsieve was working on the last machine, but isn't working now. I'm pretty sure I have copied all configs over. How can I increase logging, so I can see what is happening when I get the time-out? thanks, maria Which Versions of cyrus do you have installed on the new and the old mailserver? And does Avelsieve use Net_Sieve? If yes which version of Net_Sieve do you have installed. old cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-13 avelsieve 1.9.7-2 new cyrus-admin-2.2 2.2.13-14+lenny3 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 avelsieve does not appear to use Net_Sieve. Which version of PHP do you have on old and new? Simon Well, this is interesting. old: montoya:~# dpkg -l |grep php ii libapache-mod-php46:4.4.4-9+lenny1 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii libphp-phpmailer 1.73-6 full featured email transfer class for PHP ii libphp-snoopy 1.2.4-1Snoopy is a PHP class that simulates a web b ii php4-common 6:4.4.4-9+lenny1 Common files for packages built from the php ii php4-ldap 6:4.4.4-9+lenny1 LDAP module for php4 ii php5 5.2.4-2 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag ii php5-common 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 Common files for packages built from the php ii php5-gd 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 GD module for php5 ii php5-ldap 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 LDAP module for php5 ii php5-mysql5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 MySQL module for php5 new: ella:~# dpkg -l |grep php ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module ii php5-common 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 Common files for packages built from the php5 source ii php5-ldap 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 LDAP module for php5 I'm not sure how to figure out which php packages avelsieve was actually using. There is no executable to check libraries, and there is not a version of php listed in dependencies for the package. thanks, maria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Hi there, I tried posting this on the squirrelmail plugin mailing list, but didn't get a response, so thought maybe someone on this list might be able to give me a hint, since I know a lot of you have sieve set up with cyrus and squirrelmail. Feel free to tell me this is the wrong list, and I will try elsewhere, but if someone can help, I would be very grateful. I recently moved my mail server to a new server, and have managed to get everything working except for sieve access through squirrelmail. I hope this mail isn't too confusing, but wanted to lay out a few different possibilities for what might be going on. Initially, when I tried to go to filters after logging into squirrelmail, squirrelmail would hang, and eventually time out with no error messages (just a reset by peer, I think). I tried going into imapd.conf and turning off tls for sieve to see if there was an authentication problem: sieve_tls_cert_file: disable When I do this, then I get an error message when I click on filters: Warning: stream_socket_enable_crypto() [function.stream-socket-enable-crypto]: SSL operation failed with code 1. OpenSSL Error messages: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/avelsieve/include/managesieve.lib.php on line 514 ERROR: Could not log on to timsieved daemon on your IMAP server localhost:2000. Error Encountered: 255 Please contact your administrator. I looked at the managesieve.lib.php script, and I noticed that it uses php4, but I am using php5. But, it seems kind of strange that it would require php4, since this is the stable package for debian with default settings, and I didn't have any dependency issues installing, so I'm not sure this is the problem. squirrelmail2:1.4.15-4+lenny2 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 TLS/SSL works for eveything else (imap,imaps,smtp,and apache), so I'm a little bit suspicious for that being the problem. Something I did notice was that in the previous installation, we seemed to be using something called websieve, although we also had the avelsieve plugin installed. I copied the websieve directory, but I haven't found any documentation about how websieve is different from avelsieve or whether you can use both, or how squirrelmail/avelsieve/websieve interact. I think I need to get rid of websieve, and just use avelsieve, but I'm not sure about this. Would I run into problems if I just got rid of the websieve directory? How is avelsieve suppose to interact with squirrelmail? thanks for any hints, maria Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: avelsieve problem switching mail servers
Hi there, I tried posting this on the squirrelmail plugin mailing list, but didn't get a response, so thought maybe someone on this list might be able to give me a hint, since I know a lot of you have sieve set up with cyrus and squirrelmail. Feel free to tell me this is the wrong list, and I will try elsewhere, but if someone can help, I would be very grateful. I recently moved my mail server to a new server, and have managed to get everything working except for sieve access through squirrelmail. I hope this mail isn't too confusing, but wanted to lay out a few different possibilities for what might be going on. Initially, when I tried to go to filters after logging into squirrelmail, squirrelmail would hang, and eventually time out with no error messages (just a reset by peer, I think). I tried going into imapd.conf and turning off tls for sieve to see if there was an authentication problem: sieve_tls_cert_file: disable When I do this, then I get an error message when I click on filters: Warning: stream_socket_enable_crypto() [function.stream-socket-enable-crypto]: SSL operation failed with code 1. OpenSSL Error messages: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/avelsieve/include/managesieve.lib.php on line 514 ERROR: Could not log on to timsieved daemon on your IMAP server localhost:2000. Error Encountered: 255 Please contact your administrator. I looked at the managesieve.lib.php script, and I noticed that it uses php4, but I am using php5. But, it seems kind of strange that it would require php4, since this is the stable package for debian with default settings, and I didn't have any dependency issues installing, so I'm not sure this is the problem. squirrelmail2:1.4.15-4+lenny2 avelsieve 1.9.7-6+lenny1 TLS/SSL works for eveything else (imap,imaps,smtp,and apache), so I'm a little bit suspicious for that being the problem. Something I did notice was that in the previous installation, we seemed to be using something called websieve, although we also had the avelsieve plugin installed. I copied the websieve directory, but I haven't found any documentation about how websieve is different from avelsieve or whether you can use both, or how squirrelmail/avelsieve/websieve interact. I think I need to get rid of websieve, and just use avelsieve, but I'm not sure about this. Would I run into problems if I just got rid of the websieve directory? How is avelsieve suppose to interact with squirrelmail? Hi, From you previous mail I got the impression that you have used avelsieve in the past. Now, did you use avelsieve or websieve (or both). At least I think using both at the same time doesn't make much sense. Avelsieve uses comments in your sieve scripts to store it's metadata and other tools won't understand them. On one host running RHEL4 (which means PHP 4) I'm running avelsieve-1.9.8 and in it's config file I see this: /** * @var boolean Disable STARTTLS for ManageSieve. You can set this to true, * if you do not wish to use encryption via TLS mechanisms (i.e. the server * is not configured properly, or this is a local connection and TLS is not * needed. * Note that STARTTLS is supported only in PHP5+. In PHP4 this option will * have no effect and STARTTLS will be disabled anyway. */ global $avelsieve_disabletls; $avelsieve_disabletls = false; I was using avelsieve 1.9.7 before and a patch was needed to get the same behaviour. The patch is attached, don't remember where I got it, I think from avelsieve CVS. That said, I have used it to run sieve on the local host with STARTTLS. If you want to use STARTTLS then I don't know how to make it work. Regards, Simon avelsieve-1.9.7-php5_disabletls.patch.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
