Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-11 Thread Troels Arvin
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:06:38 +0100, Lindner wrote:

> I recommend the kolab-server which was designed to replace Exchange. The
> project is still relatively young but it is free and I am satisfied with
> it. It's VERY easy to install /maintain and the KDE 3.2 comes with a
> prerelease of "Kontact" which is a nice Client-Software for that server.
> Give it a try.   :-)

Kolab looks promising. I tested it lately, but had to drop it again, for
the time being:
1. It stores passwords in plain text.
2. I couldn't make it accept a set of relatively simple
   virtual host related requirements that I had.

I think that at least the first item has already been covered in the
developer-version of Kolab(?), so I'm eager to try the next release.

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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-10 Thread Adam Williams
> > I have a complete server doing virtual domains with
> > ldap/cyrus/postfix/squirrelmail. I do not need the calendering and
> > scheduling of exchange. I have included the samba schemas and for ldap,
> > and such, and thought I'd take it a step further. Maybe I should be on the
> > openldap list. It all sort of crosses over at some point :)
> Indeed. Just imagine the noisy nightmare that a
> linux-communication-servers list would be, though. You'd get some great
> archives, though.

NOT the OpenLDAP list as your question is not OpenLDAP specific, use the
general ldap list at umich.edu;  generic posts to the OpenLDAP list will
result in scolding/hand-slapping.

There is alot of documentation around about constructing a good
addressbook.

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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-10 Thread Adam Williams
> IMAP + LDAP cover only a fraction of Exchange functionnality.  Mail with
> shared folder and LDAP address book cover, IMHO, the most important one
> but there will be many thing missing : shareable calendar, shareable
> private address book (twiddling ACL in OpenLDAP config might do it, but
> this won't be user-configurable), schedule conflict resolution and many,
> many more.

We've found OpenGroupware to fill this niche very neatly - and the
integration with Cyrus is top notch including SIEVE, vacation, etc... 
And an XML-RPC API to the whole thing just for good measure.  And did I
mention Palm syncing that actually works?  That too.

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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-10 Thread Etienne Goyer
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:05:43PM -0500, Robin M. wrote:
> Hope this does not insult anyone here...
> 
> Is there a site that anyone
> knows of with good examples of schemas for use with an ldap email server
> that resemble all the fields a user would find in an outlook address
> book, or that work well with a netscape email client. 

Here is exactly the schema you are looking for :
http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialLDAP-GILSchemaExtension.html

> Something
> explaining how to simulate an Exchange-like server.
> My ldap/cyrus server is now looking fairly complete but this is my first
> time and I have not really seen much recent documentation in this vein.

IMAP + LDAP cover only a fraction of Exchange functionnality.  Mail with
shared folder and LDAP address book cover, IMHO, the most important one
but there will be many thing missing : shareable calendar, shareable
private address book (twiddling ACL in OpenLDAP config might do it, but
this won't be user-configurable), schedule conflict resolution and many,
many more.

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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-10 Thread Robin M.
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Robin M. wrote:
reply to myself :)
>
> I am trying to build an ldap cyrus server. Is there a site that anyone
> knows of with good examples of schemas for use with an ldap email server
> that resemble all the fields a user would find in an outlook address
> book, or that work well with a netscape email client. Something
> explaining how to simulate an Exchange-like server.
> My ldap/cyrus server is now looking fairly complete but this is my first
> time and I have not really seen much recent documentation in this vein.
>
here is alot of information on how to do this. It is in spanish but anyone
should be able to decipher enough.
http://www.linuxchange.com
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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-10 Thread Lindner








  
Something explaining how to simulate an Exchange-like server.

  
  
Difficult; how do you plan to handle calendar data etc? With what MUA? I
think there are groupware servers around to do this (Bynari?
OpenGroupware? Others?) but haven't done much with them. I guess it
depends on what Exchange-like functions you need, and what clients
you're using.


I recommend the kolab-server which was designed to replace Exchange.
The project is still relatively young but it is free and I am satisfied
with it. It's VERY easy to install /maintain and the KDE 3.2 comes with
a prerelease of "Kontact" which is a nice Client-Software for that
server.
Give it a try.    :-) 


Regards,
Marek




Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-09 Thread Craig Ringer
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 12:41, Robin M. wrote:
> I have a complete server doing virtual domains with
> ldap/cyrus/postfix/squirrelmail. I do not need the calendering and
> scheduling of exchange. I have included the samba schemas and for ldap,
> and such, and thought I'd take it a step further. Maybe I should be on the
> openldap list. It all sort of crosses over at some point :)

Indeed. Just imagine the noisy nightmare that a
linux-communication-servers list would be, though. You'd get some great
archives, though.

Craig Ringer

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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-09 Thread Robin M.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Craig Ringer wrote:
>
> > My ldap/cyrus server is now looking fairly complete but this is my first
> > time and I have not really seen much recent documentation in this vein.
>
> Having a better idea of what you're trying to achieve might be very
> helpful in better answering your question.
>
I have a complete server doing virtual domains with
ldap/cyrus/postfix/squirrelmail. I do not need the calendering and
scheduling of exchange. I have included the samba schemas and for ldap,
and such, and thought I'd take it a step further. Maybe I should be on the
openldap list. It all sort of crosses over at some point :)
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Re: ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-09 Thread Craig Ringer
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 11:05, Robin M. wrote:
> I am trying to build an ldap cyrus server.

As in an LDAP directory server and Cyrus IMAP server on the same
machine, or as in a Cyrus server that uses LDAP for user authentication?
I presume you mean the former, but wasn't certain.

>  Is there a site that anyone
> knows of with good examples of schemas for use with an ldap email server
> that resemble all the fields a user would find in an outlook address
> book, or that work well with a netscape email client.

AFAIK most LDAP servers (at least OpenLDAP) come with built in schema
for inetOrgPerson, posixAccount, and most other schema you're likely to
need. If you're using OpenLDAP, look in /etc/openldap/schema (usually)
to see what comes with it. Having not worked with MS Exchange, I
couldn't tell you if they use the standard schema or not - but if not
I'm sure people will have created compatable schema for use with other
LDAP servers.

The LDAP server is generally separate from the MTA (eg Sendmail,
Postfix) and IMAP/POP server (eg Cyrus), except that the MTA or POP/IMAP
server might use the LDAP server for user information and
authentication. Sure, they can be on the same machine, but it's not
really an "ldap email" server so much as an "ldap and email server".

One issue, though - how you do you plan to have the users access the
address data, given that most mail clients don't support writing back to
an LDAP directory? Local address books plus a company-wide employee
address book in LDAP seems to be a common solution, but if you want
people to be able to share address books etc this is less than ideal.

BTW - does anybody know of mail clients that /can/ store the primary
user address book in an LDAP directory?

> Something explaining how to simulate an Exchange-like server.

Difficult; how do you plan to handle calendar data etc? With what MUA? I
think there are groupware servers around to do this (Bynari?
OpenGroupware? Others?) but haven't done much with them. I guess it
depends on what Exchange-like functions you need, and what clients
you're using.

> My ldap/cyrus server is now looking fairly complete but this is my first
> time and I have not really seen much recent documentation in this vein.

Having a better idea of what you're trying to achieve might be very
helpful in better answering your question.

Craig Ringer

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ldap/cyrus server

2004-02-09 Thread Robin M.
Hope this does not insult anyone here...

I am trying to build an ldap cyrus server. Is there a site that anyone
knows of with good examples of schemas for use with an ldap email server
that resemble all the fields a user would find in an outlook address
book, or that work well with a netscape email client. Something
explaining how to simulate an Exchange-like server.
My ldap/cyrus server is now looking fairly complete but this is my first
time and I have not really seen much recent documentation in this vein.


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