vanished folders
hi, i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. i've tried to reconstruct without any success. no client is able to see the folders. i've tried: kmail, thunderbird, mulberry. when i use a shell to have a native look at spool i can see all users, folders and mails. file permissions are correct and cache/index files are present. no errors are loged. is there a way to increase the loglevel? perhaps this can lead me to a clue. i'm a bit desperate by now :( perhaps some one can help. TIA matthias -- Matthias Henze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use PGP!! http://www.mhcsoftware.de/MatthiasHenze.asc - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MHC SoftWare GmbH voice: +49-(0)9533-92006-0 Fichtera 17 fax: +49-(0)9533-92006-6 96274 Itzgrund/Germanye-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Hi Matthias, On Wed, January 3, 2007 7:45 am, Matthias Henze wrote: hi, i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. What command line options did you pass to imapsync? Are the folders present at a filesystem level? Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Matthias Henze wrote: hi, i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. i've tried to reconstruct without any success. no client is able to see the folders. i've tried: kmail, thunderbird, mulberry. when i use a shell to have a native look at spool i can see all users, folders and mails. file permissions are correct and cache/index files are present. no errors are loged. is there a way to increase the loglevel? perhaps this can lead me to a clue. i'm a bit desperate by now :( perhaps some one can help. TIA matthias check the subscriptions on your folders in your client... -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rudy Gevaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+32 9 264 4734 Directie ICT, afd. Infrastructuur ICT Department, Infrastructure office Groep SystemenSystems group Universiteit Gent Ghent University Krijgslaan 281, gebouw S9, 9000 Gent, Belgie www.UGent.be -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 14:45 +0100, Matthias Henze wrote: i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. i've tried to reconstruct without any success. no client is able to see the folders. i've tried: kmail, thunderbird, mulberry. when i use a shell to have a native look at spool i can see all users, folders and mails. file permissions are correct and cache/index files are present. Folders are mailboxes too. Did you created them within kolab before moving data? You need to create them in cyrus and give user access to them in the same manner as you do with main user mailbox ( using cyradm's syntax: cm, sam ). Additionally you must remember about subscriptions. User can have many mailboxes, but he doesn't need/want to have an insight into all of them all the time. Move subscriptions to the new system if the format is same ( check /var/imap/user/ tree for user's .sub files ) or reconstruct them. MUAs give users option to see all of user' folders and manipulate subscriptions. M. -- Mirosław Psyborg Jaworski GCS/IT d- s+:+ a C++$ UBI$ P+++$ L- E--- W++(+++)$ N++ o+ K- w-- O- M- V- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t 5? X+ R++ !tv b++(+++) DI++ D+ G e* h++ r+++ y? Evil is just live, spelt backwards. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2007 15:26 schrieb Mirosław Jaworski: On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 14:45 +0100, Matthias Henze wrote: i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. i've tried to reconstruct without any success. no client is able to see the folders. i've tried: kmail, thunderbird, mulberry. when i use a shell to have a native look at spool i can see all users, folders and mails. file permissions are correct and cache/index files are present. Folders are mailboxes too. Did you created them within kolab before moving data? no You need to create them in cyrus and give user access to them in the same manner as you do with main user mailbox ( using cyradm's syntax: cm, sam ). i've tried to change acl's with cyradm. with out success. acl's are set but folder stay invisible. but i do not understand this. i've createt a kolab account and used imapsync. i thought that is is nothing but moving the mail with a MUA. foders are created with imap commands and mails are moved. there shoud be no difference. when i create a folder with a MUA i can see it. imap sync is a MUA too, as it uses an imap connection and imap commands ... Additionally you must remember about subscriptions. User can have many mailboxes, but he doesn't need/want to have an insight into all of them all the time. Move subscriptions to the new system if the format is same ( check /var/imap/user/ tree for user's .sub files ) or reconstruct them. MUAs give users option to see all of user' folders and manipulate subscriptions. i know, but i can't subscribe to them as they are not displayed ... hmm, i remember that one of the folders (more than 100 at all) is visible. i will check acl's an compare them to the others. matthias Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
On Wed, January 3, 2007 8:34 am, Matthias Henze wrote: Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2007 15:03 schrieb Mike Husmann: Hi Matthias, On Wed, January 3, 2007 7:45 am, Matthias Henze wrote: hi, i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. What command line options did you pass to imapsync? Are the folders present at a filesystem level? hi mike, no special options. and: yes, they are present an all mails too. they are just invisible. Check out the imapsync man page (or run imapsync --help). You're looking for the --subscribe option (auto subscribes you to all folders that were subscribed to on the old server). Give the instructions a good read - there are lots of good options like preserving internal date/time stamps and read/unread status. Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2007 15:46 schrieb Matthias Henze: hmm, i remember that one of the folders (more than 100 at all) is visible. i will check acl's an compare them to the others. got it - was a ACL problem. invisible folder have: rswipcda and visible: lrswipcda - the l was missing ... i don't understand why ACL's are not set correctly by now, but i will consult the imapsync manual, perhaps there are options to solve this. thanks to all who replied ! matthias Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2007 15:03 schrieb Mike Husmann: Hi Matthias, On Wed, January 3, 2007 7:45 am, Matthias Henze wrote: hi, i've moved several users with imapsync from an other cyrus setup to kolab which uses cyrus imapd. now i can only see the inbox, NONE of the subfolders. What command line options did you pass to imapsync? Are the folders present at a filesystem level? hi mike, no special options. and: yes, they are present an all mails too. they are just invisible. matthias Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 15:46 +0100, Matthias Henze wrote: Folders are mailboxes too. Did you created them within kolab before moving data? no What does cyradm say: lm user.user* ( pick a user with folders ). Are users folders listed? You need to create them in cyrus and give user access to them in the same manner as you do with main user mailbox ( using cyradm's syntax: cm, sam ). i've tried to change acl's with cyradm. with out success. acl's are set but folder stay invisible. acl is about what user X is allowed to do with mailbox Y, subscription is about whether he wants to see it. but i do not understand this. i've createt a kolab account and used imapsync. i thought that is is nothing but moving the mail with a MUA. foders are created with imap commands and mails are moved. there shoud be no difference. when i create a folder with a MUA i can see it. imap sync is a MUA too, as it uses an imap connection and imap commands ... imapsync couldn't do migration the way i wanted ( keeping uidl ), therefore i didn't used it and i am not familiar with it. It's possible it did good job creating folders/mailboxes though. Additionally you must remember about subscriptions. User can have many mailboxes, but he doesn't need/want to have an insight into all of them all the time. Move subscriptions to the new system if the format is same ( check /var/imap/user/ tree for user's .sub files ) or reconstruct them. MUAs give users option to see all of user' folders and manipulate subscriptions. i know, but i can't subscribe to them as they are not displayed ... Yes, you can. Otherwise subscriptions wouldn't make any sense. You should be able to see all your folders, subscribed or not ( maybe you just need to change view filter in your MUA subscription manager ). Anyway - migrating subscriptions is another thing sucessful migration should take care of. To avoid numerous complaints about missing folders it's safer to subscribe user to all his folders than waiting for all the users subscribing themselves back to the ones they want within next months :) If you're in a middle of a big after migration f*ckup i suggest you to pick flatfile format for your subscriptions ( subscription_db: flat option in imapd.conf ) and regenerate subscription files for all the users Example: user: test subscription file: /var/imap/user/t/test.sub subscription file content: user.test.folder1 user.test.folder2 user.test.list user.test.list.cyrus user.test.list.fbsd-ports user.test.monitoring user.test.monitoring.nagios user.test.monitoring.netcool NOTE: don't forget extra tab (\t) before the end of the each line. That's one of the things you usually discover in the middle of the night during migration :) M. -- Mirosław Psyborg Jaworski GCS/IT d- s+:+ a C++$ UBI$ P+++$ L- E--- W++(+++)$ N++ o+ K- w-- O- M- V- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t 5? X+ R++ !tv b++(+++) DI++ D+ G e* h++ r+++ y? Do not disturb. Already disturbed! Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: vanished folders
Mirosław Jaworski wrote: NOTE: don't forget extra tab (\t) before the end of the each line. That's one of the things you usually discover in the middle of the night during migration :) I can confirm this too :) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rudy Gevaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+32 9 264 4734 Directie ICT, afd. Infrastructuur Direction ICT, Infrastructure dept. Groep Systemen Systems group Universiteit Gent Ghent University Krijgslaan 281, gebouw S9, 9000 Gent, Belgie www.UGent.be -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
