Re: disk full - Gnus fetching mail

2005-04-15 Thread Patrick Drechsler

Bruno Hertz wrote on 14 Apr 2005 01:25:27 MET:

 Patrick Drechsler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 which files can I delete without running into too much trouble
 after running into one of those `end of file during parsing
 errors'?

 Using the agent, my candidates are:

 ~/News/agent/nnimap/.agent*
 ~/News/agent/nnimap/.overview*
 ~/.newsrc*

 Background: Gnus is always active (fetching Mails/NG every
 10-30 min). If I fill the rest of the free space on my HD with
 data (the command `df' on unix will show 0) during that time
 Gnus will screw up one of the files above. Resulting in the
 End-of-file-during-parsing-error... somewhere ...

 Since my mails are on an IMAP-server I know that nothing is
 lost (except for marking).

 Are there further files to include in a potential
 clean-up-after-disk-is-full script (it has taken me quite some
 time to find ~/News.agent* with filesize *0k*. Deleting it
 solved my problem. Finding it took quite a lot of time)?

 First: don't delete .newsrc.eld (!) 

Since I have a daily backup I would only lose marks of a few
hours.

 Second: I don't really understand what your purpose is - remove
 possibly corrupted files

Sorry for not being clear: This is what I am after.

 If the former, I frankly don't know how to recognize corrupted
 files other than examine them one by one and see whether they
 look 'good'.

Ok. I will have to find corrupted files manually then.

[...further tipps on saving disk space...]

Thanks for your feedback Bruno!

Cheers

Patrick
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Re: Killing unwanted post

2005-04-15 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't use CVS, but I tried adding the line
 
 (setq message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified nil)
 
 to message.el, then ran byte-compile-file on it.
 
 But it didn't seem to make any difference.  I'm using Gnus v10.5.6.

You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
next release.  It's a new feature so I don't think it should go into
the maintenance trunk, where only bug fixes are supposed to go.

Do you need help with that?

Ted

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Re: Killing unwanted post

2005-04-15 Thread David Sumbler
Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't use CVS, but I tried adding the line
 
 (setq message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified nil)
 
 to message.el, then ran byte-compile-file on it.
 
 But it didn't seem to make any difference.  I'm using Gnus v10.5.6.

 You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
 next release.  It's a new feature so I don't think it should go into
 the maintenance trunk, where only bug fixes are supposed to go.

 Do you need help with that?

I'd probably need quite a bit of help.  I might try for just the
message.el bit, just to give me the idea.  I've never used CVS in
anger!

If it's not too much trouble, perhaps you could give me a brief
step-by-step guide.  I'd be very grateful, but don't worry if you
don't think it's practical.

David

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Re: new articles in a thread - how to auto-expand the thread?

2005-04-15 Thread Peter Petersen
* Peter Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 How can I make Gnus automatically expand an otherwise collapsed thread
 (with let's say 4 articles) when another, new, fifth article arrives.

 The intention is clear:
 I would like to easily see (when entering the group buffers) where the
 new articles have gone, and especially whether there have been replies
 to my own posts in a long, but collapsed thread.

 With Forte Agent an existing thread has the colour blue when all its
 articles have been seen or marked read, and as most of us know, read and
 unread articles are always visible when entering a group.
 When this thread gets new articles (be it one or more) the colour turns
 from blue to red, even if the thread still remains collapsed.

 So how could one make Gnus behave in a comparable way?
 - either by having the thread collapsed, but see a different font or
 colour
 or
 - (as I asked above) have Gnus automatically expand the thread


Doesn't anyone have an idea?

What I also noticed is that in threads with ticked articles I _normally_
(= most often) can easily see a newly inserted article because the
thread gets expanded, indeed!

On the other hand, this doesn't happen in 100% of the cases for threads
with ticked articles!?  What appears to be strange is that the last line
in a summary buffer (= the last thread) of article headers doesn't get
expanded (when one or more new articles have been inserted)! Earlier
threads, however, get expanded...

As to the last thread, one more observation:
If all threads before this last thread are ticked, the last thread will
be expanded, too, once a new article for this thread has arrived. If,
however, there is one single (or more) thread(s) in the entire summary
buffer that is _unread_ (but not ticked!), then the last thread will not
get expanded, if it has new articles!

Can anyone follow my maybe slightly chaotical description?


Here is an illustration:

!ticked thread
!another ticked thread
!another ticked thread
the last thread - with new articles arriving will get expanded

versus:

!ticked thread
an unticked and unread thread
!ticked thread
the last thread - with new articles arriving will NOT be expanded



Since I would really like to have a way to easily see whether the
threads I try to watch have something new I now use 2 work-arounds:

1) I use the dormant mark ? because when I see the corresponding
   thread appear I know that a new article has arrived
2) I use /. in order to quickly see the articles marked unseen


Is there no easier and more satisfying solution?
Like a changed colour (see my remarks about Forte Agent) as soon as a
(collapsed) thread has new articles.


thanks again
Peter
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