Re: Gnus is losing IMAP articles

2005-07-12 Thread Lars Tobias Børsting
Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I read mail via IMAP towards an Windows Exchange server here at
 work. Mail arrive in INBOX and I have gnus retrieve mail from
 INBOX and split them out into a bunch of other folders where I do
 the reading.

Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Lars Tobias Børsting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oh, right, I confused you with Christian Lynbech which uses
 Exchange. Sorry'bout that.

 What an insult :-)

 I do not use Exchange other than occassionally to respond to other
 peoples meeting calls.

I'm terribly sorry about the insult! It wasn't really meant as one, but
I can see now how it totally is. :-)

Of course, «uses Exchange» should have been «has experimented with
Exchange». Better now?

We are just implementing Oracle Calendar at my uni, to replace
Exchange. I can't say I'm very sorry about that, anything should be
better than Exchange - even Oracle Calendar! ;-)

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Regards,

Lars Tobias Børsting
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Globally marking articles in summary as expirable or read?

2005-07-12 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer


How can I, once I am in the summary buffer, globally or with a regex,
mark articles as expirable (usually with E) or read d?


Along the same lines,  I have noticed that once I have marked articles 
as expirable they are not actually removed.  I assume they will be removed
in 31 days.  Can I set a condition in my .gnus file that only articles
marked as expirable are removed immediately?

Lance




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Re: Changing charset for posting news

2005-07-12 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although it has not caused a problem until recently, my use of UTF-8
 and quoted printable has caused problems in a newsgroup which I
 recently started using.  Basically, I have been told in no uncertain
 terms to avoid them.
 
 However, I am unclear how to change this, although I have read section
 3.19 of the Gnus Manual.
 
 How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in
 ISO-8859-1, and avoid quoted printable?

You can test this on a private group - no need to send test messages
to the 'troubled' newsgroup (UTF-8 is here to stay :)

Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize.  Set the preferred
charset to iso-8859-1.  Save.  That should do it.  The Gnus manual
should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the
manual is the authoritative source.

The advice you were given to use iso-8859-1 globally will work, but
it's not necessary when you can override the posting charset only for
a specific group.

Ted

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Re: How Do I Suppress Header Encoding For Some Groups?

2005-07-12 Thread Aidan Kehoe

 Ar an dara lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh Steven Woody: 

  [...] this method is not practical for what i mentioned no-ascii
  characters are actually chinese, my native language. ;-(
  
   But I canÕt read minds. What you should be doing is telling the
   maintainers of the web archive software to fix their program.
  
  they refused to do that and provided a 'good' reason, microsoft outloop
  express, which is a popluar newsreader, does not encode the header (actually
  the subject line), so their web archive works fine with it.

If it’s “not encoding” the subject line, then it’s sending it as UTF-16 with
embedded null bytes, the internal encoding of Microsoft’s software. Which
cannot work, given the world’s Usenet software as it exists today. Your
other message mentioned GB2312--if you can confirm that this is the encoding
being used, I can realistically help you, if not, I can’t.

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result, for a not-insignificant number of people, the Second World War 
involved the Soviet Union defeating Адольф Гитлер, “Adolf Gitler.” 
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Re: Globally marking articles in summary as expirable or read?

2005-07-12 Thread David Z Maze
Lance Hoffmeyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How can I, once I am in the summary buffer, globally or with a regex,
 mark articles as expirable (usually with E) or read d?

Process-mark all of the articles ('M P b'), then apply the relevant
command to all of the articles ('M- E' or 'M- d').

 Along the same lines, I have noticed that once I have marked
 articles as expirable they are not actually removed.  I assume they
 will be removed in 31 days.  Can I set a condition in my .gnus file
 that only articles marked as expirable are removed immediately?

Perhaps changing nnmail-expiry-wait would help you.  My loose
observation has also been that articles seem to get expired that many
days after it's last touched, or maybe first read, not that many days
after its initial reception.  I tend to use total expiry on groups
corresponding to mailing lists and an extremely limited amount of
explicit expiry elsewhere.

  --dzm
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Re: Changing charset for posting news

2005-07-12 Thread David Sumbler
Ted Zlatanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although it has not caused a problem until recently, my use of UTF-8
 and quoted printable has caused problems in a newsgroup which I
 recently started using.  Basically, I have been told in no uncertain
 terms to avoid them.
 
 However, I am unclear how to change this, although I have read section
 3.19 of the Gnus Manual.
 
 How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in
 ISO-8859-1, and avoid quoted printable?

 You can test this on a private group - no need to send test messages
 to the 'troubled' newsgroup (UTF-8 is here to stay :)

 Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize.  Set the preferred
 charset to iso-8859-1.  Save.  That should do it.  The Gnus manual
 should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the
 manual is the authoritative source.

Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines
suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work!  Despite having specified
iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still
are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable.

David

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Re: Changing charset for posting news

2005-07-12 Thread Aidan Kehoe

 Ar an dara lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh David Sumbler: 

   Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize.  Set the preferred
   charset to iso-8859-1.  Save.  That should do it.  The Gnus manual
   should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the
   manual is the authoritative source.
  
  Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines
  suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work!  Despite having specified
  iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still
  are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable.

That’s a bug that some changes I made tickled, according to this mail:

http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200505/msg00121.html

But I’ve looked into this some more, and, well, the design of that code is
hugely broken--loads of programming using and endorsing underdocumented
dynamic binding, crazy return values--and I haven’t seen an example where
setting mm-coding-system-priorities appropriately is broken. I’ll put
together a patch removing support for newsgroup-specific character sets if
this sounds reasonable. 

If not, I’ll look into adding support for binding message-posting-charset
around calls to mm-find-charset-region, which should re-add support for the
charset-per-newsgroup approach. 

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Expiring articles not working

2005-07-12 Thread Bill Oakley

Hello,

I recently upgraded to:

Gnus v5.10.7
XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Jumbo Shrimp [Lucid]
(sparc-sun-solaris2.8) of Wed Jun 29 2005 on animas

and expiring articles appears to have stopped working.  From my
environment:

(setq gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook
  '(spam-summary-prepare-exit gnus-summary-expire-articles))
(setq gnus-summary-article-expire-hook
  '(gnus-registry-action))
(setq nnmail-expiry-wait 56)

One of my folders:

nnfolder+spool:diversions.merriam-webster

has the group parameters:

((auto-expire . t)
 (expiry-wait . 28))

and the message:

E  [  37: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Thu, Jun  9 2005 quincunx: ...

When I exit the group the following minibuffer messages are displayed:

Expiring articles...done
Deleting articles...done
Expiring articles...

but the article isn't deleted (even though it's more than 28 days
beyond June 9).  This is definitely a change of behavior associated
with the upgrade.

Any ideas?

Thank you for your help.

Bill
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