Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Jørgensen) writes: Hi Martin, Thanks a lot! Everything seem to work now - this message is from gnus... Congratulations! But I still think I should follow this group for a while and perhaps google for some gnus tutorials The tutorial is here: http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/ or something... There are still a lot of small problems that annoys me a bit... One of which is that you poste too long lines, right? To automatically wrap lines at 72 chars, put something like that into your ~/.emacs (or ~/.gnus.el, but message-mode belongs to emacs, so I have it in its init file): (add-hook 'message-mode-hook (lambda () (setq fill-column 72) (turn-on-auto-fill))) To reformat a paragraph simply hit `M-q'. ,[ C-h k M-q ] | M-q runs the command fill-paragraph |which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `fill.el'. | It is bound to M-q. | (fill-paragraph ARG) | | Fill paragraph at or after point. Prefix ARG means justify as well. | If `sentence-end-double-space' is non-nil, then period followed by one | space does not end a sentence, so don't break a line there. the | variable `fill-column' controls the width for filling. | | If `fill-paragraph-function' is non-nil, we call it (passing our | argument to it), and if it returns non-nil, we simply return its | value. | | If `fill-paragraph-function' is nil, return the `fill-prefix' used for | filling. ` Bye, Tassilo -- Emacs is not a development tool but a way of life. - David Kastrup in alt.religion.emacs - ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus
Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Jørgensen) writes: Hi Martin, Thanks a lot! Everything seem to work now - this message is from gnus... Congratulations! Hehe. Thanks :-) But I still think I should follow this group for a while and perhaps google for some gnus tutorials The tutorial is here: http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/ I looked at some of it and will look at it again later. I can now do the most basic things... or something... There are still a lot of small problems that annoys me a bit... One of which is that you poste too long lines, right? It doesn't annoy me and nobody complained until now. Is it a problem? Because I assumed that most usenet-clients just wrap long lines so they don't see any problem at all? To automatically wrap lines at 72 chars, put something like that into your ~/.emacs (or ~/.gnus.el, but message-mode belongs to emacs, so I have it in its init file): (add-hook 'message-mode-hook (lambda () (setq fill-column 72) (turn-on-auto-fill))) Ok, thanks. Suppose I want to outcomment something, should I then use ;; in front of each line? I saw something about ;; in the beginning of some lines... To reformat a paragraph simply hit `M-q'. Ok, thanks. I'll probably need that. ,[ C-h k M-q ] | M-q runs the command fill-paragraph |which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `fill.el'. | It is bound to M-q. | (fill-paragraph ARG) -snip (got it)- My next problems are for instance: 1) Currently I use this aquamacs emacs since it was shipped with auctex and previewtex and I don't know how to setup that from a clean emacs. So it constantly opens stupid windows that I can't C-x o between I have to mouse-click them to select them... Annoying. 2) If I try open gnus from yaced emacs I get this: Loading help-fns...done Loading gnus-start...done Loading gnus-agent...done Wrote /Users/mac/.newsrc-dribble Gnus auto-save file exists. Do you want to read it? (y or n) Reading /Users/mac/.newsrc.eld... Reading active file from 192.168.1.134 via nntp... Loading timezone...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1. Stop gnus, manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. Anyone know what that's about? 3) In mozilla thunderbird I enabled this option Only show threads with new postings so it'll automatically show the whole thread *only if* there are new replies in that thread. Threads where everything is read won't be shown... This is really nice - is it possible to do something with gnus? Sometimes I used this A T-thing to see old posts in the current thread... 4) What's this ~/.newsrc-dribble file doing? That was just what I could think of now... Best regards Martin Jørgensen -- --- Home of Martin Jørgensen - http://www.martinjoergensen.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Jørgensen) writes: Hi Martin, One of which is that you poste too long lines, right? It doesn't annoy me and nobody complained until now. Is it a problem? Because I assumed that most usenet-clients just wrap long lines so they don't see any problem at all? The problem is that quoting is harder to do (for inferior newsreaders than Gnus). So it's more or less a common rule to wrap lines statically at 72 columns. Ok, thanks. Suppose I want to outcomment something, should I then use ;; in front of each line? Yes, but the number of semicolon is not important. (It merely affects indentation.) 1) Currently I use this aquamacs emacs since it was shipped with auctex and previewtex and I don't know how to setup that from a clean emacs. So it constantly opens stupid windows that I can't C-x o between I have to mouse-click them to select them... Annoying. To switch between Frames (thats emacsian for Windows in sense of window manager units) use `C-x 5 o'. BTW: I've heard that Aquamacs is not that good. At least it's a de-emacsified emacs. So probably you want to switch to yaced [1]. 2) If I try open gnus from yaced emacs I get this: Oh, I see you tried yaced. :) Loading help-fns...done Loading gnus-start...done Loading gnus-agent...done Wrote /Users/mac/.newsrc-dribble Gnus auto-save file exists. Do you want to read it? (y or n) Reading /Users/mac/.newsrc.eld... Reading active file from 192.168.1.134 via nntp... Loading timezone...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1. Stop gnus, manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. Anyone know what that's about? When the error happens, do `M-x gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview' and restart Gnus. 3) In mozilla thunderbird I enabled this option Only show threads with new postings so it'll automatically show the whole thread *only if* there are new replies in that thread. Threads where everything is read won't be shown... This is really nice - is it possible to do something with gnus? Sure, that's the default. Did you set gnus-fetch-old-headers to anything? 4) What's this ~/.newsrc-dribble file doing? It saves what you've read, scores and such. When you exit Gnus, this file will somehow be merged into .newsrc.eld. If Gnus/Emacs crashes, then it will be used to recover your session. Bye, Tassilo Footnotes: [1] http://yaced.sourceforge.net/ -- Emacs is not a development tool but a way of life. - David Kastrup in alt.religion.emacs - ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus
On Sun, May 28 2006, Martin Jørgensen wrote: byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1. Stop gnus, manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. Anyone know what that's about? Don't use yaced if they offer only outdated CVS versions. This Gnus bug was fixed in Emacs CVS on 2005-12-09. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus
Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, May 28 2006, Martin Jørgensen wrote: byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1. Stop gnus, manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus. Anyone know what that's about? Don't use yaced if they offer only outdated CVS versions. This Gnus bug was fixed in Emacs CVS on 2005-12-09. Don't use is step #2 with free software. Step #1 is to mail the author and ask whether he intends to release something to fix this soon. It's just a mail, not a phone sex line, and you don't get blocked by support golems. So it is always worth an attempt. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
