Re: bypass nntp , go directly to mail.

2008-10-18 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:13:17 -0400, Wei wrote:

> Hi all.

> I just picked up gnus to do my email, and tried to make it receive email
> only. How do I set up my .gnus to skip the news checking part and go
> directly to dealing with email?

How about something along these lines:

  ; No primary server:
  (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil ""))

  ; Get email, and store in nnml:
  (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")))


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: bypass nntp , go directly to mail.

2008-10-18 Thread harven
Wei Weng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all.
>
> I just picked up gnus to do my email, and tried to make it receive email
> only. How do I set up my .gnus to skip the news checking part and go
> directly to dealing with email?
>
> Thanks
> Wei

The following may speed-up things

  (setq gnus-nntp-servernil
gnus-read-active-file   nil
gnus-save-newsrc-file   nil
gnus-read-newsrc-file   nil
gnus-check-new-newsgroups   nil
gnus-save-killed-list   nil)

Note that you can start gnus withM-x gnus-no-server
to skip the news checking part. You can then enter your mail group.
Or, even faster, bind the command (gnus-fetch-group "name-of-my-mail-group")
to some key. This will bring you directly to your mail group, starting
gnus if necessary.
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bypass nntp , go directly to mail.

2008-10-18 Thread Wei Weng

Hi all.

I just picked up gnus to do my email, and tried to make it receive email
only. How do I set up my .gnus to skip the news checking part and go
directly to dealing with email?

Thanks
Wei
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How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
set by a mailing list software.


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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
> to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
> set by a mailing list software.

This is emacs, an editor!  
Just edit out whatever header you want to edit out.

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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan
Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
> to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
> set by a mailing list software.

Well, the Gnus default is sane when you're in a mailing list group in
that you typically reply to the list.  That said, you could tinker
with

--8<---cut here---start->8---
`broken-reply-to'
 Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
 headers in this group are to be ignored, and for the header to be
 hidden if `reply-to' is part of `gnus-boring-article-headers'.
 This can be useful if you're reading a mailing list group where
 the listserv has inserted `Reply-To' headers that point back to
 the listserv itself.  That is broken behavior.  So there!
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

in Group Parameters documentation in the manual.

Since the modification you wanted is infrequent, it's best to simply
edit the reply-to.

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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
Sivaram Neelakantan [2008-10-18 22:17 +0530]:

> Well, the Gnus default is sane when you're in a mailing list group in
> that you typically reply to the list. That said, you could tinker with

> `broken-reply-to'

> Since the modification you wanted is infrequent, it's best to simply
> edit the reply-to.

OK, thanks. Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to
reply privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide and
very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.


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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Reiner Steib
On Sat, Oct 18 2008, Teemu Likonen wrote:

> Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to reply
> privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
> person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide
> and very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.

Did you really try to set `broken-reply-to'?  When I use r/R on a
message in the group gmane.comp.tex.german, where I have set
(broken-reply-to . t) in `gnus-parameters', the article goes to the
address in the To field and the list address (from Reply-To) is
ignored.

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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
Reiner Steib [2008-10-18 22:35 +0200]:

> On Sat, Oct 18 2008, Teemu Likonen wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to reply
>> privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
>> person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide
>> and very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.
>
> Did you really try to set `broken-reply-to'?  When I use r/R on a
> message in the group gmane.comp.tex.german, where I have set
> (broken-reply-to . t) in `gnus-parameters', the article goes to the
> address in the To field and the list address (from Reply-To) is
> ignored.

Yes I did, and thanks Sivaram for the tip. It can be useful but it's not
quite optimal for me.

In some mailing lists it's a convention that messages are posted always
to the list only (not "wide reply"). In such situations the list
software usually adds automatic "Reply-To: ". For me it's fine,
and I don't want to set broken-reply-to because then I'd always need to
use wide reply first and then remove all recipients except the mailing
list address. It would be too much manual work in nearly always editing
recipients. (Unless there's another reply command which replies to the
list address only.)

So, it seems that it's generally easier to not set broken-reply-to and
just honor the Reply-To set by the mailing software. In those rare
situations when I need to reply privately outside the list I can just
copy and paste necessary addresses.

Basically I'd like to have three different reply buttons:

  1. Reply to author only (with confirmation whether or not to honor the
 possible Reply-To).
  2. Reply to all people. The original author's address (or at user
 option, the Reply-To field) goes to "To" field and other recipients
 to "Cc" field.
  3. Reply to mailing list address only (the MUA needs to know what the
 address is so it must be configured).

It would be nice to have these three options always available. I used
Mutt previously and found those options handy.


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What is the best way to learn Gnus?

2008-10-18 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hello, my name is byunghee from South Korea. I like Gnus so much. 
Because it's simple, powerful to read/write email, i think. But still i 
don't know how to use that. Can you please help me so that i can be 
using Gnus as early as possible. Thanks in advance ;;



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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Teemu Likonen writes:
> Basically I'd like to have three different reply buttons:

>  1. Reply to author only (with confirmation whether or not to honor the
> possible Reply-To).
>  2. Reply to all people. The original author's address (or at user
> option, the Reply-To field) goes to "To" field and other recipients
> to "Cc" field.
>  3. Reply to mailing list address only (the MUA needs to know what the
> address is so it must be configured).

> It would be nice to have these three options always available.

Yes, it would.
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Re: Unable to log into IMAP

2008-10-18 Thread Chry Cheng
Chry Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Suddenly unable to log into my IMAP service.  I suspect it might be
> a network problem (e.g., unstable Internet connection) but would
> like to ask for second (or more) opinion.

Problem solved (I think)!  Seems to be a problem with my IMAP service
provider (i.e., Gmail).  Checked their Google Groups page and found other
users running into the same problem of late.  The solution often given
is to unlock CAPTCHA (?) for one's account at
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257.



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Re: What is the best way to learn Gnus?

2008-10-18 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello, my name is byunghee from South Korea. I like Gnus so
> much. Because it's simple, powerful to read/write email, i think. But
> still i don't know how to use that. Can you please help me so that i
> can be using Gnus as early as possible. Thanks in advance ;;

I learned by reading the manual (which is rather thorough, if a bit
cryptic at times), searching the Web for things that I found confusing
or unclear, and looking at the Gnus-related pages in the Emacs wiki at
emacswiki.org.

Good places in the manual to start are the "Starting Up" chapter and the
"Getting Mail" chapter (6.3, under "Select Methods").  Reading it gives
you a good handle on how to set up Gnus to read e-mail.

- Michael

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