Re: Persistent article

2009-09-26 Thread Matt Lundin
Francis Moreau francis.m...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 On Sep 25, 11:16 pm, Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Francis Moreau 
 francis.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 FM So is the behaviour I described sooner the correct one ? If so what
 FM the point of persistent article ? otherwise what did I miss ?

 I think you should use the tick mark (`!') instead.

 Well, no, since I want to _save_ the article.

 Persistent IIUC
 means that it will stick around even if the server expires it, but not
 that it will show up all the time.

 I really miss something but, I just want to save some articles and it
 seems to me that making an article persistent is just a good way to
 achieve that: I can mark some articles in any news groups and if I
 want to (re)read them later, I just enter in the group and limit the
 summary buffer to persistent articles...

 But what the point of persistent articles if they're saved, but gnus
 doesn't show them all the time !?

Make sure gnus-use-cache is set to t and that gnus-cache-enter-articles
includes the symbol ticked. E.g.,

--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq gnus-use-cache t)
(setq gnus-cache-enter-articles '(ticked dormant))
--8---cut here---end---8---

Then, provided you've set gnus-cacheable-groups correctly, anytime you
mark an item as ticked (!), it will also be added to the cache. That way
a single keystroke will make the article: (1) permanently visible and
(2) persistent.

As Adam pointed out, persistence and visibility are not connected by
default, because many people want to save articles without keeping them
visible. But you can easily combine persistence and visibility with the
settings above.

The manual spells this all out quite nicely:

- 
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Article-Caching.html#Article-Caching

- 
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Persistent-Articles.html#Persistent-Articles

Furthermore, since your cached articles are just a bunch of nnml groups,
another way to read them is to create a virtual server:

- 
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Creating-a-Virtual-Server.html

Regards,
Matt



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Re: Persistent article

2009-09-26 Thread Francis Moreau
Hello,

On Sep 25, 11:16 pm, Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Francis Moreau 
 francis.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 FM So is the behaviour I described sooner the correct one ? If so what
 FM the point of persistent article ? otherwise what did I miss ?

 I think you should use the tick mark (`!') instead.

Well, no, since I want to _save_ the article.

 Persistent IIUC
 means that it will stick around even if the server expires it, but not
 that it will show up all the time.

I really miss something but, I just want to save some articles and it
seems to me that making an article persistent is just a good way to
achieve that: I can mark some articles in any news groups and if I
want to (re)read them later, I just enter in the group and limit the
summary buffer to persistent articles...

But what the point of persistent articles if they're saved, but gnus
doesn't show them all the time !?

Thanks

Thanks
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Re: Persistent article

2009-09-26 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT), Francis wrote:

 But what the point of persistent articles if they're saved, but gnus
 doesn't show them all the time !?

One might want the one without the other.

If you want to be able to refer back to old articles (so saving them
from being expired at the server) without having to see them all the
time, for instance.

If you want to have an article saved and shown all the time, you can
just do both ! and * - right?


  Best regards,

-- 
 I always liked songs with parentheses in the title.Adam Sjøgren
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