Follow up via news

2011-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Hi.  For some odd reasons, I like all my groups served by my IMAP
server, even those that are really newsgroups.  I do this by reading the
newsfeed with suck [1] in a cronjob and mailing the articles to myself.
This works pretty well, but there is one problem, I want to stop lurking
and actually take part in the discussion.  So, I have to post to the
original newsgroup.  But Gnus treats the articles as mail because they
appear to come from IMAP, and so hitting f or F gives me a mail
message to compose.

How can I teach Gnus that some of my groups are really news and should
be followed up to with a news post?

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Re: Gnus: Point position in replies

2011-12-10 Thread Marius Hofert
This issue was finally solved, see 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8448687/gnus-how-to-force-signature-to-be-placed-at-the-bottom-under-quoted-messages-in
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Re: Follow up via news

2011-12-10 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan
On Sat, Dec 10 2011,Ian Zimmerman wrote:

 Hi.  For some odd reasons, I like all my groups served by my IMAP
 server, even those that are really newsgroups.  I do this by reading the
 newsfeed with suck [1] in a cronjob and mailing the articles to myself.
 This works pretty well, but there is one problem, I want to stop lurking
 and actually take part in the discussion.  So, I have to post to the
 original newsgroup.  But Gnus treats the articles as mail because they
 appear to come from IMAP, and so hitting f or F gives me a mail
 message to compose.

 How can I teach Gnus that some of my groups are really news and should
 be followed up to with a news post?

Interesting way of reading news...really!  I don't have an idea but I
think working with Posting Styles might be the way to force it to do
something newsy from news articles piped in through IMAP.

Guessing here.

 sivaram
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Re: Follow up via news

2011-12-10 Thread Philipp Haselwarter
check out `to-list' at (info (gnus) Group Parameters) and
(info (gnus) Mailing List), `gnus-mailing-list-mode' is what you want

You can set the group-parameter to-list either to the list address for
each of your list and use a to post to that address:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq group-parameter '((gnus (to-list . info-gnus-english@gnu.org))
(emacs (to-list . help-gnu-em...@gnu.org
#+end_src

...or be lazy and set it to the empty string  for /all/ of your
mailing lists and use C-c C-p n to instead of a:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq group-parameter `((,(rx (| gnus emacs)) (to-list . 
#+end_src

In either case follow-ups should work.

Possibly prefix the group names with nnimap.* to avoid confusion with
actual newsgroups.

hth,

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Re: Follow up via news

2011-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Philipp Haselwarter philipp.haselwarter at gmx.de writes:

 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
 (setq group-parameter '((gnus (to-list . info-gnus-english at gnu.org))
 (emacs (to-list . help-gnu-emacs at gnu.org
 #+end_src

 ...or be lazy and set it to the empty string  for /all/ of your
 mailing lists and use C-c C-p n to instead of a:

 
 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
 (setq group-parameter `((,(rx (| gnus emacs)) (to-list . 
 #+end_src
 
 hth,

Hmm no, sadly neither of your well-meant suggestions works.

I know very well about to-list, setting it is one of the first things I
do after subscribing to a mailing list.  But this is _not_ about mailing
lists.  These articles come from real Usenet newsgroups, with no mailman
or similar sitting between me and a NNTP server.  In most cases at
least, there is no mailing list that is cross linked with the group; in
fact I intentionally avoid groups like that because mailman still breaks
threading (and other gateways such us googlegroups do too).

It's just that I store them in an IMAP store.  I do that for two current
reasons and one potential one:

1. IMAP stores readedness and subscription state on the server, so it
can be shared between my client devices, without resorting to the horror
that is NFS.

2. They pass through whatever antispam measures are in effect for email.

3. (future/potential) Maybe I can hack Gnus to allow article editing in
nnimap.  Then I have editable news reading, a long time dream of mine.

About your 2nd suggestion: C-c C-p is unbound in both summary and group
buffers.  Perhaps the following is relevant?

gnus-version is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
Its value is Gnus v5.13

What command does C-c C-p n invoke in your Gnus?

Ian



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