OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?

2012-09-09 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan

It just struck me that I have not met a single person who's a Gnus
user in flesh and blood; Emacs, once in a while but gnus?  Nyet, nada,
nope!

It's getting lonely you know...

Have you?

 sivaram
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Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...

2012-09-09 Thread Lars Ingebrigtsen
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

 Is there a workaround for Hiding the thread moved us backwards,
 aborting! bug in GNUS v5.13, or do I have to wait for an upgrade now?

I'm pretty sure this has been fixed for Emacs 24.3.  At least I remember
working on it, so I assume that it's fixed.  :-)

Let's see...

Oops.  Nope, this bug still hasn't been fixed.  But there's a pretty
good case how to reproduce it now:

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11404

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Re: OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?

2012-09-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Op zondag 9 sep 2012 19:53 CEST schreef Sivaram Neelakantan:

 It just struck me that I have not met a single person who's a Gnus
 user in flesh and blood; Emacs, once in a while but gnus? Nyet, nada,
 nope!

 It's getting lonely you know...

 Have you?

Yes, but only one. (As far as I know.) And I think it is also the only
emacs user I met. (As far as I know.)

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Follow up to group for mailing lists

2012-09-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
A lot of mailing lists do not set the reply-to to the mailing list. It
is considered evil, but I like it. But lets not get into a discussion
about that.

The only way to get the email to the mailing list is a wide follow up,
but then the sender gets an email from me and from the mailing list.
That is why I made follow up only going to the mailing list. (With
reply I still can reply to the author.)

I defined a 'tuple':
(setq dcbl-gnus-mailing-lists '(
(INBOX.Info.bbdb   . 
bbdb-i...@lists.sourceforge.net)
.
.
.
(bedrijf/ontwikkeling/scala. 
scala-u...@googlegroups.com)
))


I made the following advice:
(defadvice gnus-summary-followup-with-original (after formalities () 
activate)
  (let ((to-address (dcbl-gnus-get-mailing-list-address)))
(when to-address
  (when (message-fetch-field To)
(message-goto-to)
(message-beginning-of-line)
(kill-line))
  (when (message-fetch-field Cc)
(message-goto-cc)
(message-beginning-of-line)
(message-beginning-of-line)
(kill-line)
(kill-line))
  (dcbl-fill-to-address)
  (message-goto-body

When gnus-newsgroup-name is from a mailing list, I empty the To field,
I delete the Cc field, fill the To field and go to the body.


The function to get the address:
(defun dcbl-gnus-get-mailing-list-address ()
  Get gnus-newsgroup-name mailing list address (if it has one);
  (string-match [^:]*$ gnus-newsgroup-name)
  (dcbl-get-tuple-value dcbl-gnus-mailing-lists (match-string 0 
gnus-newsgroup-name)))


The general function to get a value from a 'tuple':
(defun dcbl-get-tuple-value (tuple index)
  Get value from tuple indexed by index (if it exist);
  (assoc-default index tuple))


The function to fill the To field (I use it also to fill when creating
an article, that is why I go to the subject field here.):
(defun dcbl-fill-to-address ()
  Determine what to-address to use on the current message;
  (interactive)
  (let ((to-address nil))
(when (and (string= major-mode message-mode)
   gnus-newsgroup-name
   (not (message-fetch-field To))
   (setq to-address (dcbl-gnus-get-mailing-list-address)))
  (message-goto-to)
  (insert to-address)
  (message-goto-subject

I check that I am in message-mode, that gnu-newsgroup-name is filled,
that the To field is not filled and that it is a mailing list.
If that is the case I fill the To field and go to the subject field.


The advice for sending a message:
(defadvice gnus-summary-mail-other-window (after formalities () activate)
  (dcbl-fill-to-address))


I hope it is useful to someone. And if I could do things better: let
me know.

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Re: Follow up to group for mailing lists

2012-09-09 Thread Charles Philip Chan
Cecil Westerhof ce...@decebal.nl writes:

 The only way to get the email to the mailing list is a wide follow up,
 but then the sender gets an email from me and from the mailing list.
 That is why I made follow up only going to the mailing list. (With
 reply I still can reply to the author.)

You don't really need to define your functions (as long as you split the
lists into their own group). For mailing lists you can just set
to-address and to-list in the Group parameters to the list
address. This way if you reply with F/f or send a new mail with a it
will go to the list. If you reply with R/r, it will go the author.

Charles

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Re: OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?

2012-09-09 Thread Bob Newell
I met a couple in my last job before I retired. In fact, one of them
convinced me to switch over to gnus from VM.
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Re: OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?

2012-09-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes:

 It just struck me that I have not met a single person who's a Gnus
 user in flesh and blood; Emacs, once in a while but gnus?  Nyet, nada,
 nope!

 It's getting lonely you know...

There is a Gnus and Emacs user here in Madras, btw.

 Have you?

Yes, I have.

In probably a decade of work in different organizations, I have met only
3 Emacs users, 2 were newbies one was an expert user both of Emacs and
Gnus.

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Re: Follow up to group for mailing lists

2012-09-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Op zondag 9 sep 2012 23:16 CEST schreef Charles Philip Chan:

 Cecil Westerhof ce...@decebal.nl writes:

 The only way to get the email to the mailing list is a wide follow up,
 but then the sender gets an email from me and from the mailing list.
 That is why I made follow up only going to the mailing list. (With
 reply I still can reply to the author.)

 You don't really need to define your functions (as long as you split the
 lists into their own group). For mailing lists you can just set
 to-address and to-list in the Group parameters to the list
 address. This way if you reply with F/f or send a new mail with a it
 will go to the list. If you reply with R/r, it will go the author.

I did not know that. Still I prefer this way. Now I can see in a flash
for which groups it is defined and the address.

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M-g does not work for newsgroups

2012-09-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
When I am in gnus-group-mode I can check for new messages with M-g if
the selected group is an email group. When it is a news group this
does not work. Why not?

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