Re: ‘Reply’ vs ‘followup’
Hi, Thank you for the thorough explanation. It has been very helpful. > Then you have to mark newsgroups that are really mailing lists first. You > can do that on one by one basis by setting ‘to-list’ parameter on them — Iʼve > already explained how to do that [1], but really you want to mark all > mail-to-news groups at once: > > (setq gnus-mailing-list-groups > (rx bol (opt "nntp" (1+ nonl) ":") (or "gmane." >"linux." >"mozilla."))) > > Now you can use ‘f’ / ‘F’ instead of ‘S w’ / ‘S W’ just as intended. Perfect, I've added those lines to my configuration. I think it is working properly now. Thanks, Rafi ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Test email
Adam Sjøgren via info-gnus-english writes: Adam Sjøgren via info-gnus-english writes: > The first strategy is useful if the person writing on the mailing list > isn't subscribed to it. (I find that an odd thing to do, and with Gmane, > where following a mailing list is very low friction, even more so). I see, thank you for the explanation! I'm starting to understand now. Thanks, Rafi ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: gnus-registry-marks; Any chance to search or filter for?
physiculus writes: > i want to search or filter with the registry-marks i set. Is this > possible? I couldn't find a function for that in the gnus documentation. I think you have to do it by hand. Something like this should give you the registry-marked messages in the current group: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (delq nil (mapcar (lambda (id) (cdr (gnus-request-head id gnus-newsgroup-name))) (cl-loop for key being the hash-keys of (oref gnus-registry-db data) using (hash-values v) when (cdr (assoc 'mark v)) collect key))) #+end_src I'm using something like this in an :around advice of `gnus-alter-articles-to-read-function' to automatically include all registry marked messages in group summaries (similarly to ticked). Michael. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: ‘Reply’ vs ‘followup’
Dmitry writes: > As for ‘f’ and ‘F’, they do _not_ stay for ‘forwarding’, but for > ‘following-up’. Contrary to what @a...@koldfront.dk have said [0], > they are _not_ for posting to [news]group only, This is what I wrote: For newsgroups (e.g. Gmane) R sends to the author only, and F sends to the group. (S W sends to both.) For email, you can think of R in Gnus as "Reply", and F as "Reply All". I don't understand how you get from that to '"F" is for newsgroups only' - that is clearly not what I wrote. Best regards, Adam -- "Well, you walk into the room like a camel and thenAdam Sjøgren you frown You put your eyes in your pocket an your a...@koldfront.dk nose on the ground" ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: ‘Reply’ vs ‘followup’
Dmitry Alexandrov writes: > Rafi Khan wrote: >> Alberto Luaces writes: >> 1. I am using Gmail as the backend and received Dmitry Alexandrov's reply in >> my inbox, but for some reason your reply wasn't there. > > He have not addressed you for some reason, cf. ‘To’ and (absent) ‘Cc’ headers > in his mail. While they are merely informational, they are usually true. > Yes, I tend to not send personal copies to avoid cluttering the inbox of the addressees, because they are usually following the list, after all. Another side effect is that you can inadvertently reply also personally to those emails, so the conversation will not be registered on the list, nor the other participants will see it. To reply this way (for example, this very message) I just press "F", as Dmitry explains. -- Alberto ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: ‘Reply’ vs ‘followup’ (was: Test email)
Rafi Khan wrote: > Alberto Luaces writes: > 1. I am using Gmail as the backend and received Dmitry Alexandrov's reply in > my inbox, but for some reason your reply wasn't there. He have not addressed you for some reason, cf. ‘To’ and (absent) ‘Cc’ headers in his mail. While they are merely informational, they are usually true. > 2. What is the difference between replying and forwarding in mailing lists? > > Should I be doing "F" or "R". ‘r’ and ‘R’¹ are above-mentioned ‘reply to sender only’ commands. Indeed, docstring ( k r) is unclear: | (gnus-summary-reply YANK WIDE VERY-WIDE) | | Start composing a mail reply to the current message. | If prefix argument YANK is non-nil, the original article is yanked | automatically. | If WIDE, make a wide reply. | If VERY-WIDE, make a very wide reply. Manual entry ( K r) is fine, though: | ‘S r’ | ‘r’ | Mail a reply to the author of the current article | (‘gnus-summary-reply’). In other words, these are rarely needed commands. The need to drop extra recipients from reply is rare, and even in these cases itʼs often easier just to purge ‘Cc’ line. As for ‘f’ and ‘F’, they do _not_ stay for ‘forwarding’, but for ‘following-up’. Contrary to what @a...@koldfront.dk have said [0], they are _not_ for posting to [news]group only, but are supposed to be ‘do what I mean’ commands for replying: in Usenet — post to group (S n), in mail — reply to all (S w). ‘DWIM’ breaks, though, when you are reading mail gatewayed to Usenet or an isolated NNTP server such as Gmane. Then you have to mark newsgroups that are really mailing lists first. You can do that on one by one basis by setting ‘to-list’ parameter on them — Iʼve already explained how to do that [1], but really you want to mark all mail-to-news groups at once: (setq gnus-mailing-list-groups (rx bol (opt "nntp" (1+ nonl) ":") (or "gmane." "linux." "mozilla."))) Now you can use ‘f’ / ‘F’ instead of ‘S w’ / ‘S W’ just as intended. [0] <875zaverel@tullinup.koldfront.dk> [1] - ¹ FWIW, I suggest you to use lower-case variants, followed by C-c C-y if you need quotation. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Test email
Rafi writes: > 1. I am using Gmail as the backend and received Dmitry Alexandrov's > reply in my inbox, but for some reason your reply wasn't there. I am > replying to you from the gmane group in gnus. It's a common "problem" with mailing lists: Some people reply both to the mailing list and directly to the person, some people only reply to the mailing list. The first strategy is useful if the person writing on the mailing list isn't subscribed to it. (I find that an odd thing to do, and with Gmane, where following a mailing list is very low friction, even more so). There are some headers you can set to indicate your preference, but not many email clients understand them. > 2. What is the difference between replying and forwarding in mailing > lists? I think you are thinking of R.eply and F.ollow up? For newsgroups (e.g. Gmane) R sends to the author only, and F sends to the group. (S W sends to both.) For email, you can think of R in Gnus as "Reply", and F as "Reply All". It's more complicated than that (of course, this is Emacs), but it's a reasonable first approximation. F and R quote the previous email, f and r don't. I usually want to follow up in the newsgroup, rather than replying only to the author, so to be reminded if I hit the wrong button, I've (asked around, and somebody provided this small snippet to) add to my ~/.gnus: ; Warn if replying from a newsgroup: (defadvice gnus-summary-reply (around asjo-reply-in-news activate) (interactive) (when (or (not (gnus-news-group-p gnus-newsgroup-name)) (y-or-n-p "Really reply? ")) ad-do-it)) which makes Gnus ask me if I really want to email the author instead of following up in the newsgroup, if I happen to. Best reards, Adam -- "Ride the tail of rhymeAdam Sjøgren Break the legs of time a...@koldfront.dk Snap its spine" ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
