Re: test2

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Ömer  writes:

> testing again,
>
> Byung-Hee HWANG
>
> I saw your reply in my gmail but
> i cant see it on gnus.
>
> thank you for your reply.

Check out gmane.test at there you can do everything for test. And
gmane.test is same as gmane-t...@quimby.gnus.org as you know.


Sincerely, Byung-Hee (Gnus fan)

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Re: hello,

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Ömer  writes:

> testing gnus posting

Hellow Öme,

Welcome to the Gnus ^^^

(I am posting to gmane.emacs.gnus.user)


Sincerley, Byung-Hee

Re: Face: not showing?

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Hellow Adam,

Adam Sjøgren  writes:

> Adam writes:
>
>> Maybe I have misconfigured something, but when I read an article that
>> has a Face: header, the picture isn't shown.
>
> The same goes for X-Face: h.

I can see your X-Face, my version is 27.1 ;;;

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Re: nnimap gmail "A T" and "^" not working

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>> Gmane is the best threading, i think. Or you just make Gmail's label by
>> mailing list. Another thought.
>
> I agree Gmane threading works well. For that, I am using the nntp Gnus
> backend. However, my problem is with personal email fetched from Gmail
> via the nnimap Gnus backend.

This is my gmail screenshot -- summary buffer:


Still i didn't make Gmail's label for info-gnus-english@gnu.org, also
thread view of nnimap is default action, i think...

Still sorry for my unclear comments...

> Thank you for your help.
>

Thanks!

Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

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Re: nnimap gmail "A T" and "^" not working

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Hellow Jib,

JibStyle  writes:

> Hi, I am new Gnuser coming from Gmail web interface. I have mostly
> configured my nnimap server for gmail and I see it has great power!
>
> Unfortunately, I am unable to get "A T" and "^" to work in the nnimap
> summary buffer. I would like to reconstruct threads, and some articles
> may be in another group. Even if they are in same group, "A T" only gets
> parents but not siblings or children. I have spent days trying the
> various configurations cited in `(gnus) Finding the Parent' info page to
> no avail.

I don't know "A T". By the way sometimes i use "^". However i use "^" at
Group buffer. Then it show me server list. 

> Does anyone have any tips? What is your configuration for nnimap gmail
> threading?

Gmane is the best threading, i think. Or you just make Gmail's label by
mailing list. Another thought.

Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

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Re: How to subsribe to a general mailing list?

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> Mail isn't such a good example as it all depends if you get
> attachments - how often, and how big.

I agree with you Emanuel!

> News is a better example. (No binaries LOL.)
>
> Here you go, friend:
>
> $ ls ~/News/**/*(.) | wc -l
> 14332
>
> $ du -hs News
> 204M  News

Good!

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Re: How to subsribe to a general mailing list?

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Adam Sjøgren  writes:

> (...thanks...)
> Plus: have you looked at the sizes of harddisks these days? You can
> store a _lot_ of emails in a couple of terabytes.
>

Adam, please give me more example. Maybe i need this strategy...

Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

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Re: How to subsribe to a general mailing list?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Dear Durand,

Durand via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet
newsreader (in English)"  writes:

> Hello:
>
> I know how to subsribe to a mailing list on a known server, like this
> list gmane.emacs.gnus.user.  Now I am wondering how do I know the
> server to connect to?
>
> In particular, I am trying to subscribe to the following mailing list
> .  But I don't know how
> to do so in Gnus.
>
> Did I miss something or do you have any suggestions?

Just general way. Check here: 

It is easy ^^^

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Re: Retrieve thread URL from Gnus

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André A. Gomes  writes:

> Adam Sjøgren  writes:
>
>> André writes:
>>
>>> Is it possible to retrieve a URL associated with it?  Thank you.
>>
>> No, Gmane no longer provides web-access to articles.
>>
>> You can fetch it via nntp, however:
>>
>> $ telnet news.gmane.io nntp
>
> [...]
>
> I didn't know that.  Thank you!

+1; Thanks Adam ^^^

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Re: multiple reply address

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Eric Abrahamsen  writes:

> soyeo...@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG "(황병희, 黃炳熙)") writes:
>
>> when i reply, how can i select one address like thunderbird? let's
>> assume there are two addresses like as [soyeo...@gmail.com,
>> soyeo...@doraji.xyz]. yes i'm using gnus.
>
> I think this can be governed by posting styles. My dad persists in
> sending me emails to an old address that simply forwards to my new
> address. So when I reply to him, I swap the "To:" address to my new one,
> like so:
>
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>  '(((header "To" "e...@abrahamsen.com")
> (address "e...@ericabrahamsen.net"))
>((header "Cc" "e...@abrahamsen.com")
> (address "e...@ericabrahamsen.net"))
> ;; etc...
> ))

Thank you Eric, plus question.
In first time sending mail, can i select one address?
Thunderbird anytime can do it, at replay and first mail.
Just i would like to select one address on prompt as Thunderbird.

Sorry for silly question;;;

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multiple reply address

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when i reply, how can i select one address like thunderbird? let's
assume there are two addresses like as [soyeo...@gmail.com,
soyeo...@doraji.xyz]. yes i'm using gnus.

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Re: [OT] does gmane still allow nntp posting?

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Robert Girault  writes:

> To me it doesn't work.  Here's what happens.
>
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
> Date: Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:22 PM
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> To: 
>
> Address not found
>
> Your message wasn't delivered to
> auth-6a7b58de2f19760143fcc27e771a1...@auth.gmane.org because the address
> couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.  
>
> The response was:
>
> 550 unknown user

For weeks ago, i also got such message. Maybe there seems an auth
problem of Gmane. By the way Lars is very busy, i think. 

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Re: nnimap skipping email messages

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Hellow! Ashish!!!

Well i think that you would be better to do bug-report.
As you know, Gnus is maintaining in Emacs.

One more thing, there are heavy Gnus' users in d...@gnus.org. At ding,
users and developers discuss about serious topic, sometimes. 
 
sorry for top posting,,


In Article <86lgl84muh@chateau.d.if>,
 ashish...@lostca.se (Ashish SHUKLA) writes:

> Hi,
>
> I recently started using another IMAP MUA (Thunderbird), and noticed that
> Thunderbird has couple of messages that are missing in Gnus, or never showed
> up there.
>
> I'm running Emacs HEAD revision 49a42fb[1] on FreeBSD 11.1.
>
> Following is an excerpt (with carriage returns at the end, replaced by ^M)
> from the *nnimap log* for a search query I attempted where I expected to see
> the message I was hoping for:
>
> 21:09:38 [mail.domain.tld] 798 SELECT "freebsd/inbox"^M
> 21:09:39 [mail.domain.tld] 799 UID SEARCH SUBJECT "bsd.emacs.mk"^M
> 21:09:39 [mail.domain.tld] 800 SELECT "freebsd/inbox"^M
> 21:09:39 [mail.domain.tld] 801 UID FETCH 
> 625:627,646:647,741,748:749,934:935,963,970,989:990,1402:1403,4559,4968,8461:8464,8481:8482,8628,8630,8647,9105:9107
>  (UID RFC822.SIZE BODYSTRUCTURE BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS (Subject From Date 
> Message-Id References In-Reply-To Xref X-Spam-Status X-Bogosity 
> X-CRM114-Status To Newsgroups Cc)])^M
>
>
> Following is an excerpt from the IMAP session to the mail server performed
> using telnet using the same IMAP commands as nnimap:
>
> a1 SELECT "freebsd/inbox"
> * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft gnus-expire Junk NonJunk)
> * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft gnus-expire 
> Junk NonJunk \*)] Flags permitted.
> * 5921 EXISTS
> * 0 RECENT
> * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1293092904] UIDs valid
> * OK [UIDNEXT 72815] Predicted next UID
> * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 9319] Highest
> a1 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).
> a02 UID SEARCH SUBJECT "bsd.emacs.mk"
> * SEARCH 625 626 627 646 647 741 748 749 934 935 963 970 989 990 1402 1403 
> 4559 4968 8461 8462 8463 8464 8481 8482 8628 8630 8647 9105 9106 9107 72814
> a02 OK Search completed (0.071 + 0.000 + 0.070 secs).
>
>
> Please note that UID 72814 is missing from Gnus' UID FETCH command.
>
> As the mail server (Dovecot 2.2.32) in question is maintained by me, I ran
> server-side search using doveadm, and following is what I get:
>
> % doveadm search mailbox freebsd/inbox subject "bsd.emacs.mk"
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 625
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 626
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 627
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 646
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 647
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 741
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 748
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 749
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 934
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 935
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 963
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 970
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 989
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 990
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 1402
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 1403
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 4559
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 4968
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8461
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8462
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8463
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8464
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8481
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8482
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8628
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8630
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 8647
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 9105
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 9106
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 9107
> deb33d369d2d2c51689457b68ab5 72814
>
> If there is something I can help to debug this, let me know, or if this seems
> like a bug to you as well, I can submit a bug report.
>
> References:
> [1]  http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/?id=49a42fb
>
> Thanks!


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Re: Imap problems after yrs of use with my config.

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Dear Harry,

Harry Putnam  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <87bmni9dax@local.lan> 에서》:

> And the credential in ~/.authinfo
>
> machine hput3fm login hp...@fastmail.fm password MY-PASSWD port imap force yes

Actually, i'm not expert. But it's odd, i think: "s/imap/imaps/g".

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Re: Unicode data's src code block does break in Gnus

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Katsumi Yamaoka  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文  에서》:

> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:21:24 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>> When i write as follow:
>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC python
>> print "^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//\n"*3
>> #+END_SRC
>
>> The inner data does break in Gnus.
>
> I've fixed this bug in the Emacs git master, i.e., Emacs 26.0.50.
> The diff is here:
> <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-diffs/2017-08/msg8.html>

After read your mail, i did patch and re-build it, then it works very
well! Thank you very much, Katsumi!!! 

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Re: Default character encoding

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Richmond  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <86d18rt6nx@example.com> 에서》:

> Is it possible to make Gnus default to Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?) when
> no character set is specified in headers of news articles?

How about this: in ~/.emacs

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
#+END_SRC

Then Gnus display on UTF-8, always!!!

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Re: Unicode data's src code block does break in Gnus

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FYI, attached screenshot:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soyeomul/Gnus/MaGnus/ss/break-unicode-of-src-code-block-in-gnus.png

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Unicode data's src code block does break in Gnus

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When i write as follow:

#+BEGIN_SRC python
print "^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//\n"*3
#+END_SRC

The inner data does break in Gnus.
However it does not break in Web of Gmail. 
The data is my current signature [CJK Unicode].

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;; System Environment:
Emacs: 23.3 (Ubuntu 12.04)
Gnus: Ma Gnus [TAG: m0-15]
Current coding system: UTF-8
OrgMode: 7.3

Is that bug?

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Re: smtp 587 always fails to send email

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> To send on port 587, `smtpmail-stream-type' should be 'starttls.
> To send on port 465, `smtpmail-stream-type' can be 'ssl.

Very happy to know, thanks!!!

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Re: smtp 587 always fails to send email

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[Wow you writes at quimby! Nice to meet you!]

Alice Bob  께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <87lgxdvqh0@riseup.net> 에서》:

> Port number 587 always fails to send emails. The traces:
>
> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
> 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax
> 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax
> 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax
>
> However I can connect to the smtp server on command line:
>
> `gnutls-cli --verbose --crlf --starttls --insecure --port=587 smtp.zoho.com'
>
> The relevant configs:
>
> (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
>   message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
>   smtpmail-default-smtp-server nil
>   smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl
>   smtpmail-smtp-service 587)
> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.zoho.com")
>
> 1. I am sure port 587 is allowed on firewall.
> 2. 587 fails for all different smtp servers (outlook etc.)
>
> Could some guys give some hints?

Dear Alice,

If i were you, i would like to show version of Gnus and Emacs. Because
current Gnus source codes were changed a lot. In other words, 5.13 is
not 5.13 (GNU/Emacs 23's Gnus was 5.13, and GNU/Emacs 25's Gnus is also
5.13).  
 
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Re: precise format of .authinfo file

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dmah...@gmail.com 께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <2d1f5c3f-fe50-4e26-b046-e84de3745...@googlegroups.com>
 에서》:

> I would like to know the exact specification of the .authinfo file format.
>
> I am trying to use gnus to read my mail.
> I now have a configuration that works for both
> my personal gnail and my work office365 accounts
> as long as I supply the passwords manually.
>
> I am trying to create an ~/authinfo.gpg to automate logging in.
> Initially I am trying to set up a plain ~/.authinfo file
> to eliminate gpg related issues and I am only doing it for my gmail account.
>
> When I supply a ~/.authinfo file for my gmail account
> I am no longer asked for a password
> but my gmail mailboxes do not appear
> and in *Messages* I get a the message:
>
> Warning: Opening nnimap server on gmail.com...failed: BAD Failed to parse 
> your command f189mb236504406ivf
>
> I get a similar problem for my work email when I try to set up authinfo for 
> that account.
>
> The format of authinfo entries is usually given as
>
> machine HOST login ACCOUNT password PASSWORD port PORT
>
> where the lowercase words are literals and upper case words get substituted 
> by concrete values.
> An example would be:
>
> machine imap.gmail.com login m...@gmail.com password H0keyPok3ey port 993
>
> However in some examples either ACCOUNT and/or PASSWORD are sometimes shown 
> as quoted, eg:
>
> machine imap.gmail.com login "m...@gmail.com" password "H0keyPok3ey" port 993
>
> It is also not clear if any character escaping needs to be done.
>
> Usually the ACCOUNT is given as the full email address.
>
> Sometimes the port is given by a symbol like "imap" or the port section is 
> omitted altogether.
>
> I would also like to make sure that the entries are indeed space separated 
> and not tab separated.
>
> I have tried a number of the above possibilities alone and in combination
> and all with the same result as above.
>
> I am using GNU Emacs 25.2.
>
> What do I need to get gnus to work with the authinfo.

Well i think you would be bug report. 

`M-x report-bug-emacs' (with "Cc: la...@gnus.org")

Otherwise you could check one by one. In my case, i failed with
GNU/Emacs 23.3 with Gnus 5.13. At that time, Gnus did fail to connect to
imap.gmail.com. 

Then i did upgrade GNU/Emacs 25.x snapshot. And Gnus did success to
connect to imap.gmail.com.

For now i use Gnus devel version (Ma Gnus) with GNU/Emacs 23.3. Of
course Ma Gnus have no problem to connect to imap.gmail.com. 

Again i suggest that you would be bug report with your detail
environments^^ 

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Re: Search in summary mode

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a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) 께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <878tv8x49j@tullinup.koldfront.dk> 에서》:

> Byung-Hee writes:
>
>> In summary mode, let's suppose that there are about 3000 articles. Then
>> i should get all artilces of one author. For example
>> "la...@gnus.org". How? 
>
> You can use / a (gnus-summary-limit-to-author) and enter what you want
> to limit to.
>
> You can limit on many different things, all starting with / - e.g. / s
> for limiting on Subject.
>
> / w (gnus-summary-pop-limit) removes the latest limit you have added.
>
> If you want to have more old articles included in the summary, you can
> use / o (gnus-summary-insert-old-articles).
>
> More information in the manual under "Limiting":
>
>  · http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_38.html#Limiting

So late, i did test it. Very good result, thanks!!!

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Re: Search in summary mode

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Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> 께서 쓰시길,
 《記事 全文 <8760qcyi38@gmail.com> 에서》:

>>> [..]
> By the way, what might be more useful to mention is how could you find
> this in the reference documentation, knowing two key words: ‘gnus’ and
> ‘author’:
>
> TAB gnus RET I author RET

You are right, i have to add this advice in my mind, thanks!!!

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Search in summary mode

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In summary mode, let's suppose that there are about 3000 articles. Then
i should get all artilces of one author. For example
"la...@gnus.org". How? 

As like Google search, i did expect that Gnus can do so. Welcome to any
comments, indeed.

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Re: X-Face header does not display

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news-southc...@arcor.de (Jürgen Schmadlak) 쓰시길:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
>> Sorry my OS is FreeBSD, not GNU/Linux. So could you please again
>> advice in detail? Actually i have GUI (GNOME) like you.
>
> I think you have to install /usr/ports/mail/faces.

Thanks, too!

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Re: X-Face header does not display

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Alberto Luaces  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG writes:
>
>> Alberto Luaces  writes:
>>
>>> Byung-Hee HWANG writes:
>>>
>>>> I want to see people's X-Face at Gnus. How can i see it? Show me please
>>>> your ~/.gnus.el for it. Or give me some comments, actually i'm new ...
>>>
>>> Should be done by default. On a graphic environment, of course.
>>
>> Sorry my OS is FreeBSD, not GNU/Linux. So could you please again
>> advice in detail? Actually i have GUI (GNOME) like you.
>
>
> Ok. Then check the value of the `gnus-article-x-face-command' variable,
> as shown in http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_302.html . Maybe you lack a
> required program, we'll have to see.

Solved it by installing compface and netpbm packages.

Thanks(감사합니다)!

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Re: X-Face header does not display

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Alberto Luaces  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG writes:
>
>> I want to see people's X-Face at Gnus. How can i see it? Show me please
>> your ~/.gnus.el for it. Or give me some comments, actually i'm new ...
>
> Should be done by default. On a graphic environment, of course.

Sorry my OS is FreeBSD, not GNU/Linux. So could you please again
advice in detail? Actually i have GUI (GNOME) like you.

Thanks(감사합니다)!

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X-Face header does not display

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I want to see people's X-Face at Gnus. How can i see it? Show me please
your ~/.gnus.el for it. Or give me some comments, actually i'm new ...

Thanks(감사합니다)!

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OpenPGP header

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Oneday i saw some guidence for openpgp header at
http://josefsson.org/openpgp-header/

BTW, there is no manual how to use it with Gnus.

So could you show me the tip?

... maybe posting style ...?

TIA,

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Stop treating me like a kid brother."
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GnuPG and Gnus

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Hi, i would like Gnus with GnuPG.
Then i want to sign all outgoing mail by them.
Can you please show me the ~/.gnus.el about that?
Help me please..

Curently my Emacs version is 23.2.1 with good health!

TIA,

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Re: X-Face header

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Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:

> Slackrat  writes:
>
>> Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit profondement:
>>
>> | 
>> |   a 48x48 pixel black-and-white (1 bit depth) image
>> | 
>>
>> Mine, if you can see it, is an emacs/gnus produced image which is
>> automatically converted to a "face" from this:
>>
>> http://82.242.109.147:6080/tlug/facesmtp.jpg
>>
>> (If it isn't visible, decode the png from the headerz)
>
> Your style is good to me. But still i don't know how can i setup that in
> my ~/.gnus.el or ~/.emacs. Show me your relevant configurations, please..

After all i got my face header. There were no packages netpbm and
mimencode in my system. So i installed that packages. 

Best practice for it, i think this pager [1] is good, anyway. 

Thanks to Slackrat,
Special thanks to Pascal,
Very special thanks to Lars (la...@gnus.org),

Sincerely,

# Footnotes:
[1] <http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusFace>

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Re: X-Face header

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Slackrat  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit profondement:
>
> | 
> |   a 48x48 pixel black-and-white (1 bit depth) image
> | 
>
> Mine, if you can see it, is an emacs/gnus produced image which is
> automatically converted to a "face" from this:
>
> http://82.242.109.147:6080/tlug/facesmtp.jpg
>
> (If it isn't visible, decode the png from the headerz)

Your style is good to me. But still i don't know how can i setup that in
my ~/.gnus.el or ~/.emacs. Show me your relevant configurations, please..

Sincerely,

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Re: X-Face header

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Andreas Most  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
>> When i read some messages, Gnus display some picture at "DISPLAY_NAME"'s
>> left. That's great to me. I want to make it, too! Help me everyting for
>> it, please...
>>
>> Sincerely,
>
> Look into the manual. Chapter about "Image Enhancement" and then
> X-Face or Face depending on whether you like it black and white or
> coloured. 

Sorry for stupid question. Actually i'm not professional image
photomaker. At that manual, i don't understant about the following
sentance: 

  a 48x48 pixel black-and-white (1 bit depth) image

So you guy give me detail describing for it, please. Everytime i'm not
sure about images(gif,png,bmp,whatever) i made. In additon, can you
please show me real example ~/.emacs for X-Face. Any advices comments
welcome! 

Sincerely,

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X-Face header

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When i read some messages, Gnus display some picture at "DISPLAY_NAME"'s
left. That's great to me. I want to make it, too! Help me everyting for
it, please...

Sincerely,

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RFC 4871

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RFC 4871 says: [1]

When a DKIM signature is verified, the processing system sometimes
   makes the result available to the recipient user's MUA.  How to
   present this information to the user in a way that helps them is a
   matter of continuing human factors usability research.  The tendency
   is to have the MUA highlight the address associated with this signing
   identity in some way, in an attempt to show the user the address from
   which the mail was sent.  An MUA might do this with visual cues such
   as graphics, or it might include the address in an alternate view, or
   it might even rewrite the original From address using the verified
   information. [...]

Is there somebody to interested in Gnus to support DKIM?

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4871#appendix-D

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Re: Hanging when fetching too much mails using pop

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Merciadri Luca  writes:

> Hello,
>
> When fetching too much mails (e.g. >30) using pop, Gnus hangs completely. I am
> obliged to kill the process "emacs". Gnus does not always hang on the
> same mail: it can be on the 5th or on the last-th.
>
> Is there a solution?

fetchmail ;;

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Re: How can I not use text password in my .gnus.el?

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Water Lin  writes:

> I use my Emacs Gnus to get emails, but I save the password in
> .gnus.el as text. I don't think it is safe.
>
> So I am trying to find a way which can encrypt my text password.
>
> Please give me a way to start it...

Use ~/.authinfo file. You can also omit the password in the file if you
want so. If then Gnus will ask for password to you when it is needed. 

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Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding issue

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Merciadri Luca  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
> [...]
>> Any comment advice welcome!
>>
>> TIA,
> According to http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/sracan/QP-8bit.txt,
> both things are okay. Here is the most important text from this:
>
> Both proposals had their merits.  Obviously the ESMTP solution was
> best in the long run.  It was simpler and it saved some bandwidth,
> CPU time and storage space which would otherwise be used in 7-bit
> encoding of 8-bit data.  There are far fewer different MTA's around
> than there are MUA's.  Only one piece of software had to be changed
> on each machine and this was usually in the control of someone who
> was knowledgeable about computers.  The ESMTP solution was easier to
> interface to old pre-MIME software which was known to be 8-bit clean,
> as most of it was.
>
> The quoted-printable (QP) proposal also had its merits.  This solution
> was close to the two people who most wanted a solution, the sender and
> the recipient, rather than involving system managers of intervening
> machines who might have no interest in the problem of accented
> characters.  There was less danger of software being passed 8-bit
> data.  (Examples were found of software which actually crashed if it
> was presented with 8-bit data, although it would be amazing if there
> was any such software left seven years on.)  Many people felt that even
> if the recipient's mailer wasn't MIME capable it was better for him or
> her to see thingies like "=E1" than to risk having accented characters
> deleted or having their eighth bit stripped.
>
> So BOTH proposals were accepted.  It is legal MIME to have messages
> headed with:
>
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
>
> and it is just as legal to have messages headed with:
>
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

With care, i read the text all. That's good to know. Thanks!

Sincerely,

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my class. I loved it, I loved being an abortionist. I don't believe that a
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girls and married woman who were in trouble, I was making good money. I was
out of the front lines. When I got caught I felt like a deserter that had been
hauled in. But I was lucky, a friend pulled some strings and got me off but
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Re: test for my first post from Emacs gnus

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Water Lin  writes:

> Just for test, sorry for this disturb..

That's good ;;

Sincerely,

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Content-Transfer-Encoding issue

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Sometimes when i send email (with UTF-8) to a mailing list server using
Sendmail as MTA, they convert my Content-Transfer-Encoding from 
quoted-printable to 8bit. So i thought that 8bit is better than
quoted-printable. Well still i cannot sure what it is better for
Content-Transfer-Encoding. 

Any comment advice welcome!

TIA,

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Re: Reading mail, okay, but which way through?

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Merciadri Luca  writes:

> Just another question: I receive now ``File error: Cannot open load
> file, epa-file'' at the Emacs' opening. It seems that there is a
> problem. However, I followed your links as correctly as I was able to
> follow them. Actually, I just put the two commands in my .emacs,
> restarted Emacs, and it showed me this message.
>
> Is there a solution?

Because i can't figure out your problem exactly, could you please show
us your ~/.emacs file or ~/.gnus.el file? If i can't help you, the other
folks give you some voice for solving your problem. FYI, i'm newbie at
both Emacs and Gnus. 
 
Sincerely,

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Re: Reading mail, okay, but which way through?

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Merciadri Luca  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
>> Merciadri Luca  writes:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I can read my mails with Gnus, but is there another alternative than
>>> the one consisting of reading mail's directory's content, which is
>>> previously upgraded at the start of Gnus? If so, how? Thanks.
>>
>> Personally i'm using "news.sunsite.dk" for both reading and
>> posting. There is needed ~/.authinfo setup. For more detail, see
>> http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.help/msg/217d3cb4a6115bc4?dmode=source
>>  
>
> I am now using it, and it seems to work pretty well. Anyway, how can I
> configure the .auth file so my id's are kept automatically?

This is my case. 

b...@betla:~> cat ~/.authinfo
machine news.sunsite.dk login b...@izb.knu.ac.kr password 1234567

As you know, the above password is false. But the others are
true. Please make sure that only you can access(read,write) the
file. And Gnus read ~/.authinfo by default always if it is needed. If
you need more information about ~/.authinfo file, see
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusAuthinfo ;; 

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Re: Reading mail, okay, but which way through?

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Merciadri Luca  writes:

> Hello,
>
> I can read my mails with Gnus, but is there another alternative than
> the one consisting of reading mail's directory's content, which is
> previously upgraded at the start of Gnus? If so, how? Thanks.

Personally i'm using "news.sunsite.dk" for both reading and
posting. There is needed ~/.authinfo setup. For more detail, see
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.help/msg/217d3cb4a6115bc4?dmode=source 

Sincerely,

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Re: Always i want "UTF-8" instead of "US-ASCII"

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a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:11 +0900, Byung-Hee wrote:
>
>> a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:04:54 +0900, Byung-Hee wrote:
>
 When i send mail or news, always Gnus put "US-ASCII" in
 Content-Type. Actually i want "UTF-8" always!
>
>>> If your message doesn't contain any characters outside US-ASCII, why
>>> say UTF-8?
>
>> Personally i prefer UTF-8. Am i wrong?
>
> I don't know: I am asking you why you prefer UTF-8 in the cases where
> your message does not contain any characters outside of US-ASCII.
>
> If memory serves, Gnus will try to use the simplest encoding that allows
> all the characters in the message - to maximise the number of
> people/systems that can read the message.
>
> My messages are often in iso-8859-1, because my name contains a
> character in that charset; but if I use some unicode characters, my
> message will be encoded in utf-8…
>
> Basically my question is: Why do you want to override this mechanism?

Because i believe that the entire of future is UTF-8 ..;;

Sinecrely,

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Re: Always i want "UTF-8" instead of "US-ASCII"

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Ted Zlatanov  writes:

> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:11 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG  
> wrote: 
>
> BH> Personally i prefer UTF-8. Am i wrong?
>
> I personally use this:
>
> (set-coding-priority '(coding-category-utf-8))
> (setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-selection-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;;; Gnus specific
> (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-latin-1 utf-8))
>
> and I also have LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in my environment.  This works pretty well.
>
> Ted

First of all, thanks for all replied to me. Just i had a testing by
Ted's way and Tassilo's way. Unfortunately, i could not see what i
expected by those ways. Anyway i solved the problem by my way. After
simple patch [1], i did recompiling all Emacs. Then i recovered my peace
with Gnus. 

Sincerely,

[1] http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/stuff/fsf20090728001.diff

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Re: Always i want "UTF-8" instead of "US-ASCII"

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a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:04:54 +0900, Byung-Hee wrote:
>
>> When i send mail or news, always Gnus put "US-ASCII" in
>> Content-Type. Actually i want "UTF-8" always!
>
> If your message doesn't contain any characters outside US-ASCII, why
> say UTF-8?

Personally i prefer UTF-8. Am i wrong?

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Always i want "UTF-8" instead of "US-ASCII"

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

When i send mail or news, always Gnus put "US-ASCII" in
Content-Type. Actually i want "UTF-8" always! Thunderbird does as my
expect (always UTF-8). How can i put "UTF-8" instead of "US-ASCII" in
Content-Type? Any comment advice welcome! 
 
===> currently my ~/.gnus.el
http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/stuff/bh.gnus.el.20090727

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Re: can't get Gnus to use tsl/ssl

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Gijs Hillenius  writes:

> Hello
>
> I've been trying to get my gnus to use tls/ssl for smtp ... but I can't
> seem to get it right. When sending mail, my mail server shows the
> message was just thrown out there without authentication
>
> P=esmtp
>
> I would expect to see
>
> P=esmtpsa X=TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16 A=plain_saslauthd_server:gijs
>
> or something to that effect... like other mail clients do when told to
> use tls/ssl
>
> It probably something I overlook... but what/where?
>  
> I've been going over .gnus line by line, checked again and again the
> various variables, changed the order of smtp/tls config lines, commented
> out lines, and so on, but to no avail.
>
> It is almost as if something is overriding the .gnus settings. Yet when
> I check the variables, they are set as in the .gnus
>
> from my .gnus
>
> (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
> (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t)
>
> (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
>   message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>
> (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials  "~/.smtp-authinfo"
>   smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("mail.hillenius.net" "587" nil nil))
>   starttls-extra-arguments '("--debug" "2" "--insecure" "--verbose")
>   smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.hillenius.net"
>   smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.hillenius.net"
>   smtpmail-smtp-service 587
>   smtpmail-local-domain nil)
>
>
>
> in .smtp-authinfo
> machine mailserver port 587 login gijs password mypassword
>
> trace from a simple test email
>
> 220 hillenius.net ESMTP Exim 4.69 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:28:11 +0200
> EHLO bufo-sapiens
> 250-hillenius.net Hello bufo-sapiens.local [172.16.2.12]
> 250-SIZE 52428800
> 250-PIPELINNG
> 250-STARTTLS
> 250 HELP
> MAIL FROM: SIZE=538
> 250 OK
> RCPT TO:
>
>
> I would think I should get TLS/SSL messages following 250-STARTTLS

First try to test with Gmail, then try with your server ..;;
After that you can discover a problem to solve, i think ..;;

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Re: ~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Tassilo Horn  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
> Hi!
>
>> While i using Gnus, i'm woundering follow agenda. What is first? On
>> startup Gnus. ~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el? So confused to me. Currently, i'm
>> using only ~/.gnus.el instead of ~/.gnus.
>
> ,[ C-h v gnus-init-file RET ]
> | gnus-init-file is a variable defined in `gnus-start.el'.
> | Its value is "~/.gnus"
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | Your Gnus Emacs-Lisp startup file name.
> | If a file with the `.el' or `.elc' suffixes exists, it will be read instead.
> `
>
> So ~/.gnus and ~/.gnus.el are equivalent, but nowadays the version with
> suffix is preferred.
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo

Wow, your comments is clear to me. Thanks!

Sincerely,

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Re: ~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Cor  writes:

> Some entity, AKA Byung-Hee HWANG ,
> wrote this mindboggling stuff:
> (selectively-snipped-or-not-p)
>
>>
>> While i using Gnus, i'm woundering follow agenda. What is first? On
>> startup Gnus. ~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el? So confused to me. Currently, i'm
>> using only ~/.gnus.el instead of ~/.gnus.
>
> Well, it gets even more confusing.
>
> When starting gnus it will search for a .gnus file or a .gnus.el or a
> .gnus.elc, it even will check if the .gnus.el is not newer than the
> .gnus.elc. (the latter being the compiled version of .gnus.el)
>
> Either file will do the same job, as in being a lisp program that
> changes and/or enhances the basic capabilities of gnus.   
> The .gnus or .gnus.el will both be read, compiled and loaded.
>
> M-x byte-compile-file or the option "byte-compile and load" from the
> emacs-lisp section of the drop-down menu when editing a elisp (.el) file.
>
> The compiled forms do load faster than the source-versions,
> since they are the compiled versions of lisp programs
> and do not need the compile action  after reading to load them.
>
> In using .gnus.el as filename it sets a hook in the editing part of
> emacs in emacs-elisp-mode to help editing the lisp-program you are
> writing for gnus, where you can check 'regions' or the whole file for
> any elisp-errors before loading it in an gnus instance.  
>  
> Cor

Unfortunately, i'm not good at reading and writing English. Only i
uderstand correctly from your comments is "The compiled forms fast.."
..;;
 
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~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hi,

While i using Gnus, i'm woundering follow agenda. What is first? On
startup Gnus. ~/.gnus or ~/.gnus.el? So confused to me. Currently, i'm
using only ~/.gnus.el instead of ~/.gnus.

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Re: Reading with Gnus, but Sending(replying) with Rmail

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Bill O'Connor  writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:
>
>> Hello, i'm beginner at Gnus. Because i'm imaginative, at once i thought
>> about both using Gnus and Rmail. Especially, when i read email i use
>> Gnus, but when i reply i want to use Rmail sometimes. Is that possible?
>> If it is possible, how to act for that?
>
> I just used message-insinuate-rmail on this, so you might get a blank
> email.  Or not, I have no idea what that function does(yet).  :)

After some testing with "message-insinuate-rmail", i realized that my
imagination is useless. So never mind about my postig "Reading with
Gnus, but ...". Well, i'll devote for Gnus without any side-thought.

Sincerely,

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Reading with Gnus, but Sending(replying) with Rmail

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hello, i'm beginner at Gnus. Because i'm imaginative, at once i thought
about both using Gnus and Rmail. Especially, when i read email i use
Gnus, but when i reply i want to use Rmail sometimes. Is that possible?
If it is possible, how to act for that?

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Re: prefer application on Gnome Desktop

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Teemu Likonen  writes:

> On 2009-07-14 20:36 (+0300), Teemu Likonen wrote:
>
>> OK, it turned out that all the parser functions already existed in
>> Emacs so the basic functionality was very easy to do. Here's a
>> prototype. [...]
>
> I improved the code a bit and made it safer. Further improvements can be
> done in the Emacswiki:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MailtoHandler

Many thanks to all folks replying for me! Exactly, 10 hours later, i'll
check one by one. Thank all, again!

Sincerely,
 
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prefer application on Gnome Desktop

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hi, i use Emacs on Gnome Desktop (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE). In Gnome, there
is the config named "prefer application" in which we can decide the best
application for us such as mailer, webbrowser. The default value in
mailer is "Evolution". By the way i would like to switch to Gnus from
Evolution. So how can i change without any errors? 

First time, i tried as like "emacs -f gnus". But there is no action with
"mailto:"; link. The tried "emacs -f gnus-no-server %s". Still problems..

Plz help me...

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Re: [OT] Gnus logo

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Karl Kleinpaste  writes:

> [...], in
> news/gnu/emacs/gnus.
 ^
Unfortunately, i don't understand what it is.
 
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[OT] Gnus logo

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Since i become Gnus mania, i'm looking good Gnus logo to use for my
Gnome desktop panel. A few hours ago, i discoverd some pretty logo
[1]. But i'm wondering that there is more good pretty logo than [1]. OK,
could you please tell me about the information? Thanks in advance..;;

Sincerely,

[1] http://gnus.org/pictures/tiny-gnus.gif

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Re: Gnus and MTA(local)

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:33:57 +0900, Byung-Hee wrote:
>
>> Actually Postfix setup is more easy than the others. So Postfix goes
>> with many spammers, in recent.  To tell truth, i want to take off such a
>> dishonor.
>
> By that logic you shouldn't send email at all. Spammers send email.

You're right. My thought was wrong. Again back to the past, i'll use
MTAs without any complaint. 

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Re: [OT] Gnus and MTA(local)

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Giorgos Keramidas  writes:

> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:03:07 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG  
> wrote:
>> For several years, i have been using Postfix in my desktop which runs
>> FreeBSD. In recent, i'm considering to switch local MTA from Postfix
>> to the others (e.g., qmail, Exim, Sendmail, ...). So i read some
>> papers about comparison MTAs. But still i could not deside what MTA is
>> best for me using Gnus and send-pr(1). This time i would like to give
>> +1 to Exim because most Emacs(Gnus, Rmail, VM, WL, Mew) folks use
>> Exim.
>>
>> Especially i checked this paper: http://shearer.org/MTA_Comparison
>
> Hi Byung-Hee :)
>
> IMO, this is a very good comparison.  I really enjoyed reading it, so
> first of all thank you for the link.  When I finished reading the
> article, I immediately tweeted about it, so others can pick it from my
> feed and share the fun!
>
> Postfix is a very nice system, with many features, it can support both
> single-user workstations and large multi-thousand user domains, and it
> runs pretty well on FreeBSD.  In fact, Postfix is the MTA that runs the
> entire *.FreeBSD.org cluster of machines :)
>
> FWIW, I still have Sendmail running on my laptop (mostly out of inertia
> and because after the initial setup back in 1999 it still works fine),
> but if I was changing MTAs it would be Postfix all the way.
>
> So, what are your reasons for switching from Postfix to something else?
> Maybe we can help you configure Postfix to do what you have in mind, and
> you can still keep it.
>

Hi Giorgos!

Actually Postfix setup is more easy than the others. So Postfix goes
with many spammers, in recent.  To tell truth, i want to take off such a
dishonor. Still clean MTA by the point is Exim, i think. Many free
software folks use that. But i won't change the outbond MTA (Postfix on
FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE). The outbond performs so many tasks for me. Only my
concern is local MTA. That is easy, no trouble though it fails.

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[OT] Gnus and MTA(local)

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

For several years, i have been using Postfix in my desktop which runs
FreeBSD. In recent, i'm considering to switch local MTA from Postfix to
the others (e.g., qmail, Exim, Sendmail, ...). So i read some papers
about comparison MTAs. But still i could not deside what MTA is best for
me using Gnus and send-pr(1). This time i would like to give +1 to Exim
because most Emacs(Gnus, Rmail, VM, WL, Mew) folks use Exim. 

Especially i checked this paper: http://shearer.org/MTA_Comparison

OK, then, what do you think of?

Exim? or qmail or Sendmail or other?

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Re: Use SMTPS?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Nicolai Stange  writes:

> Hi all,
> our SMTP server allows external comnnection only via SMTPS (TLS) to port
> 465.
> Is there a way in emacs to use it? I couldn't figure out how to do it
> with smtpmail.

See EmacsWiki: [GnusGmail]

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Re: How can i new mail check?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Byung-Hee HWANG  writes:

> Hi, i'm newbie for Gnus. Before i used Thunderbird. Thunderbird
> displayed it whenever new mail arrived. But Gnus does not. How can i
> check new mail on Gnus automatically?

Really i shame, i didn't subscribe [1]. Anyway i can see new messages
now. Again i realized that Gnus is the big Guns!

Sincerely,

[1]
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnus-english/2008-05/msg00056.html

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How can i new mail check?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hi, i'm newbie for Gnus. Before i used Thunderbird. Thunderbird
displayed it whenever new mail arrived. But Gnus does not. How can i
check new mail on Gnus automatically?

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Re: Gnus and Gmail

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:

Byung-Hee HWANG  wrote:


Hello i'm newbie for Gnus. Does people use Gmail(imap) on Gnus? If it
is possible, how can i use Gmail? FYI, i use another host for sending
mail. So i need only imap setting for now.

byunghee


Have you read/tried the link below?

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail
GnusGmail



Oh.. thank you so much!

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Gnus and Gmail

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hello i'm newbie for Gnus. Does people use Gmail(imap) on Gnus? If it is 
possible, how can i use Gmail? FYI, i use another host for sending mail. 
So i need only imap setting for now.


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Q: Gnus and UTF-8

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Gnus, can we read/write multi-bytes characters as like Chinese, 
Japanese, Korean?  That's important to me for moving MUA.


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Re: What is the best way to learn Gnus?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Michael Ekstrand wrote:

Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hello, my name is byunghee from South Korea. I like Gnus so
much. Because it's simple, powerful to read/write email, i think. But
still i don't know how to use that. Can you please help me so that i
can be using Gnus as early as possible. Thanks in advance ;;


I learned by reading the manual (which is rather thorough, if a bit
cryptic at times), searching the Web for things that I found confusing
or unclear, and looking at the Gnus-related pages in the Emacs wiki at
emacswiki.org.

Good places in the manual to start are the "Starting Up" chapter and the
"Getting Mail" chapter (6.3, under "Select Methods").  Reading it gives
you a good handle on how to set up Gnus to read e-mail.


Thank you so much!

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What is the best way to learn Gnus?

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

Hello, my name is byunghee from South Korea. I like Gnus so much. 
Because it's simple, powerful to read/write email, i think. But still i 
don't know how to use that. Can you please help me so that i can be 
using Gnus as early as possible. Thanks in advance ;;



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