Re: How to 'resend' a mail?

2011-05-24 Thread David Kastrup
Rolf Ade r...@pointsman.de writes:

 Hello,

 is there a way, to resend an already send mail? Just the mail as
 stored in the archive, same headers and mail body, as if I had freshly
 writen it with gnus-summary-mail-other-window.

S D r runs the command gnus-summary-resend-message, which is an
interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-msg.el'.

It is bound to S D r, menu-bar Post Resend message.

(gnus-summary-resend-message ADDRESS N)

Resend the current article to ADDRESS.

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Re: How to setup a nntp server that needs user and password?

2011-03-24 Thread David Kastrup
Leo sdl@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 In the *server* how to add a nntp server (I want to use
 news.eternal-september.org) that requires user and password?

Put the required info into ~/.authinfo.  Something like

machine news.eternal-september.org login Leo password Supersecret force yes

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How to report bugs?

2011-03-14 Thread David Kastrup

A copy of a letter just sent to the ding mailing list.  However,
looking at the gnus.ding group on news.gnus.org, it would appear that
ding has turned into a complete spamtrap and is unlikely to be read,
either.

From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Subject: Gnus bugfixing is broken.
To: d...@gnus.org
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:11:47 +0100 (22 minutes, 57 seconds ago)


I've used M-x gnus-bug RET to report a bug to b...@gnus.org, and while
it appears on the local group gnus-bugs (?) on the NNTP server at
news.gnus.org along with several other threads, it would appear that
those other threads have been injected automatically by other channels
(apparently a bug reporting system, since the subject lines contain bug
numbers).

It does not appear like the bug channel fed directly by the gnus-bug
command is actually being read by anybody.

It has now been about two weeks that message-yank-original has stopped
being functional for installations that don't have cl loaded permanently
(namely standard Emacs installations).

Could you please make gnus-bug report somewhere else than what amounts
to /dev/null?  There is nothing to be gained by sabotaging bug reports.

Thanks.

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M-x gnus-bug RET

2011-03-09 Thread David Kastrup

Is there a particular rationale that the command gnus-bug sends mail to
a mailing list that nobody reads?

That does not seem to make much sense.

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Re: M-x gnus-bug RET

2011-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com writes:

 On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:39:46 +0100 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: 

 DK Is there a particular rationale that the command gnus-bug sends mail to
 DK a mailing list that nobody reads?

 DK That does not seem to make much sense.

 It should work properly, yeah.  But the mail delivery for
 b...@gnus.org should be fixed if it's broken instead of using some
 other address.

I did not say it is broken.  Just that nobody reads it.

Looking at URL:news://news.gnus.org/gnus.gnus-bug now, I see that my
mail appeared there, and also that there are several other people
discussing things on that feed, including you.  So it would appear that
somebody reads some things appearing there.  So this particular
complaint of mine apparently is not founded in reality.

 (Although it may be nice to (defalias 'gnus-bug 'emacs-bug) :)

I am not sure in general.  The problem here is that even after
bootstrapping Emacs, message.el barfs upon encountering case constructs
during run-time.  It _does_ have the equivalent of
(eval-when-compile (require 'cl)) at the front of the file.  I am not
versed well enough in the mess that cl is to actually know whether this
is a bug in message.el or a bug in cl.el or a bug elsewhere.

People having loaded cl by default would likely not notice.

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Re: libgnutls support?

2011-03-06 Thread David Kastrup
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org writes:

 Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes:

 and what would that entail in terms of .gnus configuration, if at all?

 No .gnus conf is necessary.

So what is the effect of (require 'gnutls) supposed to be?  For what
kind of connections does it cause a difference?

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libgnutls support?

2011-03-05 Thread David Kastrup

It would appear that Emacs now can be compiled with libgnutls support.
Is there a way or a plan for letting gnus make use of that?

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Re: Reply to self behavior

2011-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Yuri D'Elia wav...@users.sf.net writes:

 On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:40:33 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: 
 Yuri D'Elia wav...@users.sf.net writes:   (_real_ 
 format=flowed support anyone? it's supported since 199? in 
 outlook)   What doesn't work? And what is format=flowed? Why
 would you want it?format=flowed encodes hard-newlines in the
 message, while still wrapping  the source of the message to 80
 columns. This allow compliant readers to  either show the wrapped
 text or flow the content to the window's  margins.In what way
 doesn't format=flowed work in Gnus?  I think that was 
 implemented at least a decade ago, but it may have bitrotted in 
 the mean  time...  

 After reading the sources, I was able to achieve flowed zenity with
 the following:

 (setq fill-flowed-display-column nil)  (add-hook 'message-mode-hook
 (lambda () (turn-off-auto-fill) (setq truncate-lines nil)
 (use-hard-newlines)))  (add-hook 'gnus-article-mode-hook (lambda ()
 (setq truncate-lines nil)))  My only complaint is that
 use-hard-newlines' shouldn't be necessary.
 Any line longer than `fill-flowed-encode-column' should trigger a
 format=flowed message automatically instead of generating a warning.

That's the worst comb quoting and unreadable run-in garbage I've seen in
a long time.

Impressive that you managed to create it using gnus.

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Cecil Westerhof ce...@decebal.nl writes:

 In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address
 in the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this
 also possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original
 sender and not to the mailing list.

S B r (without quoting of original) S B R (with quoting).

which are the keybindings for

gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to and
gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to-with-original

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Re: gnus and pine

2008-12-19 Thread David Kastrup
Xavier Maillard x...@gnu.org writes:

 harven har...@free.fr writes:

 Then I guess the answer is « I decided to use $foo instead of $bar + $foo
 because $foo can do whatever $bar can do, after some customization »

 :)

 Whatever the reason was, it is a good reason.

 I am a bit surprised about the 4 millions users for the pine
 MUA. What is your source ?

Arithmetic overflow?

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Re: IMAP disconnecting

2008-08-20 Thread David Kastrup
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello!

 I run Emacs-CVS with included Gnus-5.13 which access my local dovecot
 IMAP server.

 This topic was already discussed, but I still do not have solutions for
 regular disconnect from IMAP server.

 Here you can see snippet from my today' log:


 dovecot: 2008-08-20 07:53:50Info: imap-login: Login: user=gour,
 method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, TLS
 dovecot: 2008-08-20 07:56:28Info: imap-login: Disconnected: Inactivity: 
 rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured


 It's quite frustrating to start writing email and then discover that you
 cannot send it 3 minutes later cause Gnus lost connection :-/

Goto the *Group* buffer, type ^, go to the line with your server, type C
(possibly followed with C-g if it hangs) and O.  Now go back to your
mail buffer and send.

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Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus

2008-06-30 Thread David Kastrup
Kenneth Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   sven Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely
   sven unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation

   sven See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version.

 OK, I'm now successfully running Emacs22 and Gnus (gnus-5.10.10.tar.gz).

 Thanks to everyone who replied to my plea for help!

   -Kenneth

 PS  It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
 that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...

Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?

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Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus

2008-06-30 Thread David Kastrup
Kenneth Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PS  It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...

   dak Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?

 That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ...

 Are you using it?  What version is it?

Well, I am using developer versions of Emacs, anyway.  But I don't
remember anything wrong with gnus before we forked off the Emacs 22
release branch.

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Why is In-Reply-To set when clicking on sender address?

2008-05-05 Thread David Kastrup

Hi,

when I mouse-2-click on a mail address in some existing mail, I get a
normal looking composition buffer without context.  However, when
actually sending the mail, Gnus inserts Reference and In-Reply-To
headers which is absolutely not expected and not what I would want.

I use one of the reply commands when I want to reply to a message.

Is there a way to turn off this annoying behavior?  Is it not a bug in
the first place?  If Gnus is going to mark this thing as a Reply, should
it not do this right away instead of sneaking this information in
afterwards?

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Re: png in message, reply and preview `preview-copy-region-as-mml'

2008-01-25 Thread David Kastrup
Uwe Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 However when I reply seamonkey lets the png untoughed while gnus
 deletes it. I presume that has to do with the fact that gnus send
 messages as plain text.

Hardly.  C-c C-f can forward PNGs just fine.

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Re: Can access everything but Inbox on my IMAP server

2007-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
levander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But, there is one thing I can't find even a clue for how to do in
 the info docs.  I've got two different email addresses with
 different logins on the same mail server.  Can I use gnus to login
 twice to the same server, and have the INBOX's for each of these
 addresses show up as different groups in gnus?

Just note that the machine entry in .authinfo is not actually a
server address but the symbolic name you use in your select method.
You customize the same nnimap-address variable into several select
method entries, and give a different symbolic server name to each of
those methods, and then have those symbolic server names correspond to
different machine entries in your ~/.authinfo file.

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Re: make a group invisible

2007-05-05 Thread David Kastrup
Hadron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Perhaps you should shut up if you have nothing of value to say?

New to Usenet?

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Re: One window configuration for Gnus?

2006-08-31 Thread David Kastrup
Jochem Huhmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 is there a way to have Gnus *not* use a split window configuration for
 the summary and article buffers? 

 I would like to be able go to a full window summary buffer from the
 Group buffer and from the summary buffer to a full window article
 buffer. This would also require some shuffling with keycombos, but
 that shouldn't be so hard then.

 The Gnus buffer configuration docs seem to be biased to split the
 frame into windows and that's not what I try to do, so I'm a bit
 lost right now.

You know the = key?

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Re: What to do when Article numbers are unreliable?

2006-08-18 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ivan Boldyrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 9568 day of my life David Kastrup wrote:
 with my current news provider, it appears like I get one of a bunch of
 news servers on each connection, and the relation between article
 numbers and articles is not kept.

 Use leafnode as proxy server or (better) change provider because
 provider's admins are idiots, and new problems are just waiting...

 Probably my analysis was backwards: updating news seems to work pretty
 ok (which articles are read or not), but it is pretty impossible to
 get a message using its article Id (like with ^ ) unless it has
 already been fetched in this session.

 So maybe access by article Id is what is borked.

No, can't be quite that.  When I press ^, the appropriate summary line
with subject, author, number of lines actually appears, but it flashes
yellow, gets marked with G and I get an article was canceled or
expired message.

Can anybody put a finger on what combination of circumstances would
trigger such a behavior?  I am somewhat at a loss of where to look for
the problem, and what exactly to report the provider of news.

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What to do when Article numbers are unreliable?

2006-08-16 Thread David Kastrup

Hi,

with my current news provider, it appears like I get one of a bunch of
news servers on each connection, and the relation between article
numbers and articles is not kept.  That means that whenever I type ^
in order to go up in a thread which I have read before, I get an
article has been cancelled or expired message.  A nuisance.  The
same happens when trying to access old articles.

Is there a possibility to forget the article id-article number
correlation whenever the connection to the server closes?

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Re: retrieve new posts

2006-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Gary Wessle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Gary Wessle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am using version (No Gnus v0.6) and need to retrieve new posts while
 I am at the summary buffer, /o N does not seam to do it.

 Well, it is / N IIRC.

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 typing
 /spaceN gives me couldn't go to article 13556, whats this IIRC.

Sigh.  What is the space doing in there?  Just the two keys / and N,
as in

/ N runs the command gnus-summary-insert-new-articles
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-sum.el'.
It is bound to / N, menu-bar Gnus See new articles.
(gnus-summary-insert-new-articles)

Insert all new articles in this group.

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Re: check for new articles

2006-07-20 Thread David Kastrup
Gary Wessle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I need to check for new articles when I am in the summary buffer, I
 hit g in the group buffer but is there a way to do this while you are
 in the summary and not have to exit to the group buffer?

M-g

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Re: How many use eMacs and Gnus on daily basis?

2006-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johan Bockgård) writes:

 Joe Fineman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1.  Deal with the Web.  I use w3m for one site that is all text, but
 it is rather clunky, and I have not yet found out how to access
 graphics with it.

 The MS-Windows port of Emacs 21 doesn't support images.

Which is one of the reasons to use the CVS version (one can be gotten
from URL:ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/auctex).  There are also other
good reasons, but on MS Windows, it is probably the most important
one.

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Re: How many use eMacs and Gnus on daily basis?

2006-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now is this plain eMacs?

 Isn't there something called Xemacs as well?

 Same thing, but different.  If memory serves, XEmacs started life
 as a branch from normal (FSF or GNU) Emacs over frustration on
 getting one of the older releases out.  It's historically had a
 little better support for inlined images, proportional fonts, and
 the like,

Uh, better support?  It supported them, and Emacs didn't.

 at the cost of supporting those features differently from normal
 Emacs when it's added them in as well.

Part of the reason is that the XEmacs way for such features usually is
incomprehensible.

 XEmacs's other advantage is that it comes with an add-on bundle of
 approximately every elisp package out there; normal Emacs is much
 more conservative about what can be included (due to
 likely-justified license paranoia: while people complain about the
 Linux kernel being of dubious heritage, all code distributed with
 Emacs has had copyright assigned to the FSF).

No.  For example MULE is not copyrighted by the FSF, but licensed from
the copyright holder.  But most parts of Emacs are (c) FSF.

The main problem I find with XEmacs is that it is a travelling junk
yard which does not deliver on its promises.  It has pretty lousy
utf-8 (Emacs has been the loss leader with MULE, contrary to the
general trend in featuritis, but in contrast to the trends I imagine
perceiving with XEmacs, development did not cease after initial
success, and so XEmacs stayed behind), image interfaces that almost
nobody uses because it is too hard to figure out how (and indeed,
binary images will get garbled on load once you have used dired for
the first time), a graphical interface and icons that look gross
compared to today's standards, and often incomprehensible
documentation.  XEmacs may be fun to developers, but since the shere
scope of Emacsen means that you can be developer of probably 10% of
the code base at most and are mere user for the rest, this gives it
limited audience.

 My current feel is that XEmacs doesn't offer a whole lot that's not
 in Emacs,

Multi-tty support is probably the only thing I can think of right now.

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Re: How many use eMacs and Gnus on daily basis?

2006-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
notbob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006-06-08, David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Emacs when it's added them in as well.  XEmacs's other advantage is
 that it comes with an add-on bundle of approximately every elisp
 package out there;

 Well, it used to.  No longer.  Now all those packages must be added
 by the user.  I recently downloaded and compiled xemacs only to
 discover basic functions like calendar, gnus, and dired are not
 included.

 I found this disclaier:

  In order to reduce the size and increase the maintainability of
 XEmacs, the majority of the Elisp that came with previous releases
 have been unbundled.

Well, but they do provide the sumo tarballs.  In principle, this
should allow components of XEmacs be updated independently in a more
timely manner.  In practice, it seems to rather have the effect of
developers not being worried about components getting outdated
independently.

At least XEmacs manages quite more frequent releases and partial
updates than Emacs does, but with mixed quality.  Arguably the XEmacs
development and release process scales quite better to the number of
active developers.  Unfortunately, developers are a scarce resource
for both Emacsen.

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Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus

2006-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 David Kastrup wrote:
 Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On Sun, May 28 2006, Martin Jørgensen wrote:


byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1.
Stop gnus, manually evaluate
gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus.

Anyone know what that's about?

Don't use yaced if they offer only outdated CVS versions.  This Gnus
bug was fixed in Emacs CVS on 2005-12-09.


 Don't use is step #2 with free software.  Step #1 is to mail the
 author and ask whether he intends to release something to fix this
 soon.  It's just a mail, not a phone sex line, and you don't get
 blocked by support golems.  So it is always worth an attempt.

 I did that and he replied:

 Sadly, I will not be able to address this soon. I will check it and
 see if I can do something about it.

Pity.

 So even though people don't recommend Aquamacs Emacs I don't think I
 have any alternative.

You can always compile your own if things come to worst.

 I just hate those damn #€(€#!(%!(€ windows, because sometimes if
 I have like 5-6 open windows, they're on top of each other and then
 I have to move the mouse to move the window.

There is supposed to be some setting you can turn off.

 I found out I can activate them with C-x 4 C-o and C-x 5 C-o, but it's
 always the same direction I go through the windows

More like C-x o and C-x 5 o, and M-- before them will go backward.

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Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus

2006-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, May 28 2006, David Kastrup wrote:

 Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Don't use yaced if they offer only outdated CVS versions.  This Gnus
 bug was fixed in Emacs CVS on 2005-12-09.

 Don't use is step #2 with free software.  Step #1 is to mail the
 author and ask whether he intends to release something to fix this
 soon.  

 You might be right, but if someone distributes a random CVS snapshot
 of Emacs which is intended for end-users, (s)he should make sure to
 update it more often (the latest version of yaced seems to be more
 than one year old).

Why should he, if judging from the feedback there are no users or they
don't have any problems?

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Re: a couple of newbie questions with gnus

2006-05-28 Thread David Kastrup
Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, May 28 2006, Martin Jørgensen wrote:

 byte-code: gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 1.
 Stop gnus, manually evaluate
 gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus.

 Anyone know what that's about?

 Don't use yaced if they offer only outdated CVS versions.  This Gnus
 bug was fixed in Emacs CVS on 2005-12-09.

Don't use is step #2 with free software.  Step #1 is to mail the
author and ask whether he intends to release something to fix this
soon.  It's just a mail, not a phone sex line, and you don't get
blocked by support golems.  So it is always worth an attempt.

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Re: Gnus to handle news: and mailto: URLs from external sources?

2006-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kurt Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been a heavy Gnus user for years[*] (some of the ancient ones may
 remember me), as well as a big fan of gnuserv, which allows one to
 call emacs from command lines, scripts, etc.  I.e. I have *one* emacs
 (process) and gnus started immediately upon logging in, and they run
 perpetually until reboot.

 I recently discovered I could mangle firefox into running an external
 program for any URIs I wanted (news:, mailto:, magnet:, screw-you:,
 etc.)  Of interest here are the first two.  Thus I can script
 something to send to gnus via gnuserv.  Obviously I would like to
 handle all the extensions (for example ?subject=xxx for mailto:) Has
 anyone attempted this before?  Any pointers?

 [*] I swear to god I have not, and will not use outlook,
 thunderbird, webmail or any other crap out there.

Well, just configure something like
/usr/bin/emacsclient -ne (browse-url%r)
as your mailer command (be sure to use spaces only where I wrote them).

And
/usr/bin/emacsclient %t
as your textarea command

You can probably do this by typing the URL
about:config
into Firefox.

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Re: Mail Reply to attached message

2005-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
Sascha Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi *,

 is there a convenient way in gnus to reply to an forwarded 
 (MIME message/rfc822 attachment) message?

C-d seems like a good candidate.

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Re: spam

2005-10-25 Thread David Kastrup
Joe Fineman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 jimmij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why there is so much spam on gnu.emacs.gnus?
 I don't know other group with such amount of spam messages...

 gnu.emacs.bug is even worse.  It is almost all spam.  Someone seems
 to have made a marketing decision that people who use Emacs are
 males who need special help in getting erections.  Maybe they know
 something I don't.

I find that emacsclient works almost instantaneously.  Getting Emacs
up is overrated.

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Re: Disappear Marks

2005-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry to reply to my own posting (and from Google, no less!), but my
 original article about Disappearing Marks disappeared!  I.e., I
 marked it with a `!`, but it went away ...

 Some new info ... it appears that marks for *emails* do remain, it is
 only those from newsgroups that go away.

Of course articles don't remain longer than the server stores them.
If you want to cache them locally, use *

* runs the command gnus-cache-enter-article
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-cache'.
It is bound to *, menu-bar Article Cache Enter article.
(gnus-cache-enter-article optional N)

Enter the next N articles into the cache.
If not given a prefix, use the process marked articles instead.
Returns the list of articles entered.

[back]


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Bad encoding...

2005-07-22 Thread David Kastrup

Take for example
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from de.talk.romance

Here are some seminal points:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0070_01C58F0E.65ADA4C0

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--=_NextPart_000_0070_01C58F0E.65ADA4C0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Immer wieder trifft man Menschen, die gezielt handeln. In vielen =
F=E4llen ist es meistens die Tendenz zum Negativen. Was hat es auf sich? =

Now what happens with this on my System?

Coding system for saving this buffer:
  = -- emacs-mule-unix

Default coding system (for new files):
  u -- mule-utf-8 (alias: utf-8)

Coding system for keyboard input:
  nil
Coding system for terminal output:
  u -- utf-8 (alias of mule-utf-8)

Defaults for subprocess I/O:
  decoding: u -- mule-utf-8 (alias: utf-8)

  encoding: u -- mule-utf-8 (alias: utf-8)


Priority order for recognizing coding systems when reading files:
  1. mule-utf-8 (alias: utf-8)
  2. iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)

[...]

My locale is
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

The above now seemingly assembles the above quoted-printable
sequences, generates the right latin-1 characters from them, converts
them into utf-8, interprets the resulting bytes as latin-1 and
converts this reinterpretation then into Emacs MULE, showing a buffer
that looks like utf-8 ending up by accident in a latin-1 buffer (the
buffer encoding indeed is latin-1).

And indeed, recode-region from buffer was originally encoded as utf-8
to latin-1 yields the correct result.

I get this kind of nonsense not too rarely, most often with multi-part
messages that specify an encoding per-part.

I think this has been happening in Emacs CVS for at least half a year
or so, but it is also possible that the behavior just was not noticed
before by me.

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