Re: Can I run Gnus with secondary select methods only?
nljlistb...@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > At 15:56 -0400 on Tuesday 2015-12-01, David Hume wrote: > >> If you don't find any other solution you could just install Inn and have >> a local server on your computer which does nothing other than keep gnus >> happy. > > Thanks for the reply David. > > Hmm... I've never considered running a Usenet server. I doubt I could do > that on my laptop though? Surely it would require very much more in the > way of storage than a laptop could provide? And I don't have servers at > home these days. Can I put in a word for Leafnode ? http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/ It's a nntp server designed for home/small office use, and essentially downloads messages only from newsgroups you wish to read. It is easy to set up and well documented. I've used it for at least ten years with no problems. Once you have set up leafnode, the incantation you need in .gnus is (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "localhost")) atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Standard way to use Gnus?
David Masterson writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> What kind of use are you curious about? Do you use Gnus for mail or >> just as a newsreader? RSS feeds? Mailing lists? Are you using pop or >> imap? Scoring/killing posts? A few clues about possible directions of >> travel/interest might elicit more help! > > In a word -- maybe. I was deliberately open-ended because I really > haven't used these items with Gnus and I wanted to see if there was a > manual to lead you thru these things with examples. My off-the-cuff > directions might be: > > 1. Finding and reading newsgroups > 2. Scoring/killing to reduce noise > 3. Mail reading (POP/IMAP) > 4. Mailing list management > 5. Advanced message conversion (GIFs, PSs, etc.) > 6. Tricks (username icons, etc.) Well there is the Gnus tutorial here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusTutorial#toc1 It is rather old now but should get you started. You can find guidance on most of the above on the Emacs wiki too http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGnus > > Some in-depth .emacs examples would be good. I have found these helpful - in no special order - http://www.esperi.org.uk/~nix/xemacs/personal/personal.html http://bzg.fr/emacs.html https://github.com/jwiegley/dot-emacs http://sachachua.com/blog/tag/gnus/#post-4905 atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Standard way to use Gnus?
David Masterson writes: > I'm sure everyone has there own preferences on how to use Gnus -- that's > the essense of Emacs, after all. However, it's always instructive to > learn from others and find new methods of using such a powerful tool. > I've been around Emacs & Gnus for more 30 years (yes, I believe I used > GNUS when it was written for TECO/Emacs), but I was never an expert in > its usage. I still tend to just basically C-n & Space through the > Summary buffer to read what I'm interested in and never really sat down > to figure out the more advanced tools in Gnus. > > I'm now a little more curious. The Gnus manual in Emacs is written as a > reference manual and covers a lot of complicated topics, but not in a > manner of taking the novice to an expert level step by step. I'm > looking for more on why each of the pieces of Gnus exist and examples of > why I might want to use them. Is there such a manual around somewhere? In a word, no! I have found that the best way to learn is to look at the configuration used by others and see what use they make of Gnus' amazing flexibility. What kind of use are you curious about? Do you use Gnus for mail or just as a newsreader? RSS feeds? Mailing lists? Are you using pop or imap? Scoring/killing posts? A few clues about possible directions of travel/interest might elicit more help! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...
Hikaru Ichijyo writes: > Winston writes: > >> Hikaru Ichijyo asked: >>> Is there any way I can make cancelled messages just go away? (After >>> all, they don't even exist anymore...) >> >> 'x' ? > > The reason that (gnus-summary-limit-to-unread) wouldn't work for me is > because I'm setup to display old emails in all mail groups. I only > limit to unread in newsgroups. > > So, I'd like a way to get rid of cancelled articles even while read ones > are still visible. > > It's possible there may not be a way to do it, since Gnus seems strongly > biased toward treating everything as a newsgroup, and thus may assume > that you never see old articles by default, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Sorry - hit return too soon - here's the link for gnus-parameters http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Group-Parameters.html atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...
Hikaru Ichijyo writes: > Winston writes: > >> Hikaru Ichijyo asked: >>> Is there any way I can make cancelled messages just go away? (After >>> all, they don't even exist anymore...) >> >> 'x' ? > > The reason that (gnus-summary-limit-to-unread) wouldn't work for me is > because I'm setup to display old emails in all mail groups. I only > limit to unread in newsgroups. > > So, I'd like a way to get rid of cancelled articles even while read ones > are still visible. > > It's possible there may not be a way to do it, since Gnus seems strongly > biased toward treating everything as a newsgroup, and thus may assume > that you never see old articles by default, but I thought I'd ask > anyway. The 'display' group parameter may help? h atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: What's the best server and how do you setup gnus in emacs?
Emanuel Berg writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> You need to Google 'Don Saklad gnus' as a matter of >> urgency. Don has been asking the self-same questions >> on usenet for at least 12 years. > > Aha, actually I know that, I've read the "tribute" > page. But I didn't react to the "thezsak" handle. Well, seeing your enthusiasm for helping people on here, I wanted to save you a wild-goose chase this time. atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: What's the best server and how do you setup gnus in emacs?
Emanuel, You need to Google 'Don Saklad gnus' as a matter of urgency. Don has been asking the self-same questions on usenet for at least 12 years. It is a case of what logicians call the "invincible ignorance fallacy", as opposed to the theological kind! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Using things from 'custom.el'
Sharon Kimble writes: > gnus-fetch-old-headers C-h v is your friend , | Documentation: | *Non-nil means that Gnus will try to build threads by grabbing old headers. | If an unread article in the group refers to an older, already | read (or just marked as read) article, the old article will not | normally be displayed in the Summary buffer. If this variable is | t, Gnus will attempt to grab the headers to the old articles, and | thereby build complete threads. If it has the value `some', all | old headers will be fetched but only enough headers to connect | otherwise loose threads will be displayed. This variable can | also be a number. In that case, no more than that number of old | headers will be fetched. If it has the value `invisible', all | old headers will be fetched, but none will be displayed. | | The server has to support NOV for any of this to work. | | This feature can seriously impact performance it ignores all | locally cached header entries. Setting it to t for groups for a | server that doesn't expire articles (such as news.gmane.org), | leads to very slow summary generation. ` atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Positioning of items
Sharon Kimble writes: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:18:20 +0000 Glyn Millington > wrote: > >> Sharon Kimble writes: >> >> > a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> > >> >> Sharon Kimble writes: >> >> >> >>> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) >> >>> (nnml-directory "~/.emacs.d/gnus.d/mail") (nnml-active-file >> >>> "~/.emacs.d/gnus.d/mail/active") >> >> The parenthesis here are messed up, which is why you get the >> >> errors. I think you should consider to start with the simplest >> >> possible configuration (say the one I posted from your >> >> information previously), and when that works, and only then, >> >> expand step by step- rather than rewriting everything for each >> >> try. >> >> >> > Right, back online with gnus, and with no info lost, so far as I >> > know. Now I have newsgroups and email, but still no system mail. >> > The code relevant for it is >> > , >> > | (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) (add-to-list >> > | gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) >> > (add-to-list | gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) >> > (eval-after-load | "mail-source" '(add-to-list 'mail-sources >> > (file :path | "/var/mail/boudiccas"))) ` >> > I can find no way of 'adding in' the mail-source, but that could >> > very well be my lack of knowledge. How can I get it working >> > please? >> > Thanks Sharon. >> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) >> >> (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) >> >> (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "") mail-sources >> (file :path "/var/mail/boudiccas"))) >> >> Try that! >> > Thanks for this. > > With the new code in place, I attempt to start gnus, which fails with > this in the message buffer - > > eval-buffer: Attempt to set a constant symbol: nil > > That is a new error message, never seen before so I don't know what it > is referring to, but it didn't occur before with the old code. Sorry! OK - let's try splitting it up! (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/mail/boudiccas"))) Almost everyone here has more lisp-cluefulness than I do! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Positioning of items
Sharon Kimble writes: > a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > >> Sharon Kimble writes: >> >>> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) >>> (nnml-directory "~/.emacs.d/gnus.d/mail") (nnml-active-file >>> "~/.emacs.d/gnus.d/mail/active") >> The parenthesis here are messed up, which is why you get the errors. >> I think you should consider to start with the simplest possible >> configuration (say the one I posted from your information >> previously), and when that works, and only then, expand step by >> step- rather than rewriting everything for each try. >> > Right, back online with gnus, and with no info lost, so far as I know. > Now I have newsgroups and email, but still no system mail. The code > relevant for it is > > , > | (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) (add-to-list > | gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) (add-to-list > | gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) (eval-after-load > | "mail-source" '(add-to-list 'mail-sources '(file :path > | "/var/mail/boudiccas"))) > ` > > I can find no way of 'adding in' the mail-source, but that could very > well be my lack of knowledge. How can I get it working please? > > Thanks Sharon. (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) (add-to-list gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "") mail-sources '(file :path "/var/mail/boudiccas"))) Try that! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to get mail from localhost?
Sharon Kimble writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > > I've been looking at various sites today but haven't seen anything > which would allow me to got local-hosts system-mail, from > /var/mail/boudiccas'. How can I do it please? What should I put in my > .gnus.el' please? I use this: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) mail-sources '((file :path "/home/glyn/Mail/inbox") (file :path "/home/glyn/Mail/gmail") (file :path "/var/spool/mail/glyn"))) The last mail source is for system mail. atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Reading mails in Gnus
Xue Fuqiao writes: > Hi, > > I just started to learn Gnus. I managed to send news/mails and get > news, but I can't read my mail. > > Here's the Gnus part of my .emacs (I don't use ~/.gnus.el because I > prefer putting all stuff in my .emacs): > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) (add-to-list > gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) (setq read-mail-command > gnus) (setq read-mail-command 'gnus) Does that help? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Searching in bodies
Dennis Yurichev writes: > Hi. > > 1) How to search for the string in bodies of all messages in specific > group? 2) How to search for the string in bodies of all messages in > all groups present in GNUS? http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusMairix atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to get rid of many nnml mail directories en-masse
Harry Putnam writes: > Over the years I've accumulated many many nnml directories that are no > longer in use. > > I know how to delete individual mail directories thru gnus > interface... but how can I delete dozens of them. > > Something like just delete them and then excise them from .newsrc.eld? > > Is there some way better than that... but doesn't take all day to do? Hi Harry, your question intrigued me because I had a few dozen such groups here. In the absence of an answer from Those Who Know, this is how I did it. 1. In the group buffer hit 'L', to reveal all those unsubscribed groups. 2. Mark the UNwanted groups for processing and change them all to level 7 with S l 3. M-x gnus-group-kill-level and Gnus asks which level, tell it 7 that seems to have done the trick for me hope that helps Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: lamer... how to send group email efficiently
Harry Putnam writes: > Its a lamer question for 10+ yr gnus user but I've never had occasion > to send group emails. Just not something I do. > > Now I have need of a nice efficient way to send emails to a couple > dozen recipients... and looks as if I will be doing this every couple > of weeks. > > The list of recipients will change over time but only by a few > deletions or additions... so it would be nice to be able to just add > or subtract email address' to/from something and gnus/emacs will do > the rest. > > There must be a number of folks here who have developed nifty ways to > do this... please anyone share your technique. Hi Harry, >From the Manual | 2.10 Mail Aliases| | | | The message-mail-alias-type variable controls what type of mail alias | | expansion to use. Currently two forms are supported: mailabbrev and | | ecomplete. If this variable is nil, no mail alias expansion will be | | performed.| | | | mailabbrev works by parsing the `/etc/mailrc' and `~/.mailrc' | | files. These files look like: | | | | | | | | alias lmi "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen "| | alias ding "d...@ifi.uio.no (ding mailing list)" | | | | After adding lines like this to your `~/.mailrc' file, you should be able | | to just write `lmi' in the To or Cc (and so on) headers and press SPC to | | expand the alias. | | | | No expansion will be performed upon sending of the message--all | | expansions have to be done explicitly.| | | | If you're using ecomplete, all addresses from To and Cc headers will | | automatically be put into the `~/.ecompleterc' file. When you enter text | | in the To and Cc headers, ecomplete will check out the values stored | | there and "electrically" say what completions are possible. To choose one | | of these completions, use the M-n command to move down to the list. Use | | M-n and M-p to move down and up the list, and RET to choose a completion. | \===/ Of course, bbdb has it's own way of dealing with mail aliases. hth Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: expiring emails
prad writes: > time to clean up the 9+ emails i've accumulated. > > i really don't want to go and mark each email as expired. > > is there a way i can mark a thread as expired? T E atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: show original?
Raphael Kubo da Costa writes: > Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala writes: > >> Apologies if this is a FAQ. >> Other email clients have an option which shows original >> mail/message. I don't find it gnus. > > You can do that by passing a prefix (usually C-u) to > gnus-summary-show-article' (usually g). In short, `C-u g' usually does > the trick. Or, while reading the article, hit 't' atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: read mail in mbox files
Richard Riley writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> Richard Riley writes: >> >>> a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >>> >>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:51:54 +0100, Richard wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why is this a "spool" directory? >>>> >>>>> The word "spool" is throwing me. I thought "spool" meant it was >>>>> spooled to you and then stored in a backend .. like nnml. >>>> A "(news)spool" in news-related terms is usually where the >>>> articles are stored in a newsserver (the meaning used here). A >>>> mail-spool is usually where mail is stored locally until the user >>>> fetches it (/var/mail or /var/spool/mail). In the documentation >>>> nnml is described as the backend that most closely resembles a >>>> newsspool, so that is probably where the choice of word comes >>>> from. And perhaps also some of the confusion. >>> I think in the context it's incorrect but wouldnt put my mortgage >>> on it ... >>> nnml-directory is not a spool really : the var/spool source is. >>> And checking values now, I see, and amazingly confusing, that >>> , | Its value is "~/.emacs.d/Mail/archive" ` >>> How I dont know as I set >>> (setq nnml-directory "~/Mail") >>> bah ;) I need to start all over again ... >> Hi Richard, >> Here's a snip from my .gnus file. It may be totally irrelevant, >> becasue I have een smewhat confused by this discussion!! - but it >> may help ;-) >> >> >> >> --8<---cut here---start->8--- >> ;, ;| MAIL SETTINGS AND MAIL SORTING >> - ;` >> ; nnml is, as you know a mail backend - the nnml (I wonder if nnml >> stand ; for Not NorMaL) format is what results when gnus grabs mail >> from the ; two mail sources below. I use getmail to dump all my mail >> into ; /home/glyn/Mail/inbox; system mail goes to >> /var/spool/mail/glyn. gnus ; grabs mail from both sources, I assume >> transmogrifies it by elisp-magic ; into nnml format, and then shoves >> it through my fancy-splitting ; set-up. (Just a fraction of that >> here!) I read the mail from the groups ; created by the fancy >> splitting - SLACKLIST, FREEBSD, FVWM etc etc >> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) mail-sources >> ((file :path "/home/glyn/Mail/inbox") (file :path >> "/var/spool/mail/glyn"))) >> > > > Thanks for the examples. its amazing how many different ways people > get this going. > > My "dummy" question of the minute here is:- > > mail-sources : how does nnml know its got control of them? What about > other mail backends? I don't use any other mail backends. Are you wanting to use more than one? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: read mail in mbox files
Richard Riley writes:
> a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:51:54 +0100, Richard wrote:
>>
>>> Why is this a "spool" directory?
>>
>>> The word "spool" is throwing me. I thought "spool" meant it was
>>> spooled to you and then stored in a backend .. like nnml.
>> A "(news)spool" in news-related terms is usually where the articles
>> are stored in a newsserver (the meaning used here).
>> A mail-spool is usually where mail is stored locally until the user
>> fetches it (/var/mail or /var/spool/mail).
>> In the documentation nnml is described as the backend that most
>> closely resembles a newsspool, so that is probably where the choice
>> of word comes from. And perhaps also some of the confusion.
>
> I think in the context it's incorrect but wouldnt put my mortgage on
> it ...
>
> nnml-directory is not a spool really : the var/spool source is.
>
> And checking values now, I see, and amazingly confusing, that
>
> ,
> | Its value is "~/.emacs.d/Mail/archive"
> `
>
> How I dont know as I set
>
> (setq nnml-directory "~/Mail")
>
> bah ;) I need to start all over again ...
Hi Richard,
Here's a snip from my .gnus file. It may be totally irrelevant, becasue
I have een smewhat confused by this discussion!! - but it may help ;-)
--8<---cut here---start->8---
;,
;| MAIL SETTINGS AND MAIL SORTING -
;`
; nnml is, as you know a mail backend - the nnml (I wonder if nnml stand
; for Not NorMaL) format is what results when gnus grabs mail from the
; two mail sources below. I use getmail to dump all my mail into
; /home/glyn/Mail/inbox; system mail goes to /var/spool/mail/glyn. gnus
; grabs mail from both sources, I assume transmogrifies it by elisp-magic
; into nnml format, and then shoves it through my fancy-splitting
; set-up. (Just a fraction of that here!) I read the mail from the groups
; created by the fancy splitting - SLACKLIST, FREEBSD, FVWM etc etc
(setq
gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
mail-sources '((file :path "/home/glyn/Mail/inbox")
(file :path "/var/spool/mail/glyn")))
(setq nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy
nnmail-split-fancy
'(|
; system mail from Charlie Root
(from ".*r...@millingtons.org" "SYSTEM")
; diary entries
("Subject" ".*Diary" "DIARY")
; Spam rejection
; ("Subject" ".*" "spam")
("Subject" ".*lottery" "spam")
("Subject" ".*LOTTERY" "spam")
("Subject" ".*BEQUEST" "spam")
("Subject" ".*BALLOT" "spam")
("Subject" ".*NatWest" "spam")
("Subject" ".*OFFICE" "spam")
("Subject" ".*inches" "spam")
("Subject" ".*FUND" "spam")
; linux etc Mailing lists.
(any ".*slackware-ot" "SLACKLIST")
(any ".*slackware@mailman.*" "SLACKLIST")
(any ".*pkg-annc-request.*" "SLACKLIST")
(any ".*secur...@slackware.com" "SLACKLIST")
; (any ".*freebsd.*" "FREEBSD")
(any ".*FreshPorts.org" "FREEBSD")
(any ".*fvwm\.org" "FVWM")
(any ".*muse-el-discuss.*" "MUSE")
(any ".*Facebook.*" "FACEBOOK")
(any ".*spiked-central" "SPIKED")
;;catch the rest
"OTHER"))
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
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Re: Banner Washing
"Gary" writes:
> Alberto Luaces wrote:
>
>> "Gary" writes:
>>
>>> Is there some way of specifying "from this point on until the end
>>> of
>> the
>>> article"? I don't want to have to specify every single line of the
>>> entire block I want to remove.
>> Are you looking for `message-kill-to-signature' (C-c C-z) while
>> composing the reply in message mode?
>
> I don't think so. What I am interested in is
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusAdBannerWashing
Well to set up that example as an alist you would do something like this in
your .gnus file. I guess the fine art in this is to construct a regular
expression which will catch the banners you are tryng to kill off.
(set gnus-article-address-banner-alist
;; Alist of mail addresses and banners. Each element has the
;; form (ADDRESS . BANNER), where ADDRESS is a regexp to match a
;; mail address in the From: header, BANNER is one of a symbol
;; `signature', an item in `gnus-article-banner-alist', a regexp and
;; nil. If ADDRESS matches author's mail address, it will remove
;; things like advertisements. For example:
; Yahoo - This regular expression should be reasonably stable, and
; reasonably safe.
'(("@yahoo\\.com" . "^__+\nDo you Yahoo!\\?\n.*\n.*\n")
; Hotmail - Not very much can be matched, so this could be dangerous.
; Should be reasonably stable though.
; The other option is to use a much less stable value, and
; update it frequently.
("@hotmail\\.com\\|@msn.com" .
"^_\n.*MSN
.*\n.*\n")
; Netscape - Very unstable value, not much else can be done though.
;Unless a more stable value can be found, it seems the
;best way to maintain this is to OR updated regexps with
;this value.
("@netscape\\.net" .
"^__\n.*Netscape
Network.*\n.*\n.*\n\n.*AOL Instant Messenger.*\n.*\n")))
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Re: Banner Washing
"Gary" writes:
> Alberto Luaces wrote:
>
>> "Gary" writes:
>>
>>> Is there some way of specifying "from this point on until the end
>>> of
>> the
>>> article"? I don't want to have to specify every single line of the
>>> entire block I want to remove.
>> Are you looking for `message-kill-to-signature' (C-c C-z) while
>> composing the reply in message mode?
>
> I don't think so. What I am interested in is
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusAdBannerWashing
Well to set up that example as an alist you would do something like this in
your .gnus file. I guess the fine art in this is to construct a regular
expression which will catch the banners you are tryng to kill off.
[Trying again - word wrap did something to my last effort]
(set gnus-article-address-banner-alist
'(("@yahoo\\.com" . "^__+\nDo you Yahoo!\\?\n.*\n.*\n")
("@hotmail\\.com\\|@msn.com" .
"^_\n.*MSN
.*\n.*\n")
("@netscape\\.net" .
"^__\n.*Netscape
Network.*\n.*\n.*\n\n.*AOL Instant Messenger.*\n.*\n")))
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Re: Banner Washing
"Gary" writes: > Is there some way of specifying "from this point on until the end of > the article"? I don't want to have to specify every single line of the > entire block I want to remove. Does (setq gnus-treat-hide-signature t) do what you want? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Autofilling received email
"Gary" writes: > Is there a way of doing this? I'm getting pretty tired of trying to read > email from lazy people who can't be bothered to keep their lines to a > reasonable length, causing text to be wrapped in the middle of words. It's not autofill, but you do know about hitting W-w on an unwrapped post? That usualy sorts it out! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Using GNUS and EMACS23
John Hasler writes: > Andreas Marschke writes: >> Other than that in popular distros like Debian GNUs depends on emacs22 >> but emacs23.1 already exists can you guys tell me if there are efforts >> to port it to 23.1 or is this already done and the only problem is >> that our twatty packagers where too lazy to pick it up yet? > > thumper/~ apt-cache show gnus > Package: gnus > ... > ... > Note: This package contains beta version from No Gnus series. Users > of GNU Emacs 23 are better served by Gnus 5.13 included in GNU Emacs > 23 packages. > ... > ... > > > thumper/~ apt-cache show emacs23 > package: emacs23 > ... > ... > Provides: editor, emacs23-gtk, emacsen, info-browser, mail-reader, news-reader > ... > ... > > I think you owe Tommi Vainikainen and Rob Browning an apology. Yes indeed. Andreas the good news is that Gnus *usually* comes bundled with Emacs, no need to install separately. If you must use the beta No Gnus series for some reason, you can download the source and run it from your /home/elisp directory, but if you are just beginning with Gnus it might be better to stick with the version you received with Emacs itself. atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Attaching all files in dir
Paulo Matos writes: > Hi, > > I have a directory with several files and I would like to attach them > to my email in one go. Is there any function already prepared for > this? Not quite. The snippet below will allow you to attach all the files you mark in dired in one go , | ;; If you would like to attach all marked files from dired to a new | ;; Gnus message then put the following in your .emacs: | | (require 'gnus-dired) | (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode) | | ;; Then, from dired, you can mark files as normal and then hit C-c | ;; C-m C-a to attach the files (as attachments, not inline) to a | ;; message. If you would like to have an easier to get to binding I | ;; would suggest the following: | | (define-key dired-mode-map "a" 'gnus-dired-attach) ` any use? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Attaching all files in dir
Paulo Matos writes: > On Apr 10, 7:13 pm, Glyn Millington wrote: >> >> Not quite. The snippet below will allow you to attach all the files you >> mark in dired in one go >> >> , >> | ;; If you would like to attach all marked files from dired to a new >> | ;; Gnus message then put the following in your .emacs: >> | >> | (require 'gnus-dired) >> | (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode) >> | >> | ;; Then, from dired, you can mark files as normal and then hit C-c >> | ;; C-m C-a to attach the files (as attachments, not inline) to a >> | ;; message. If you would like to have an easier to get to binding I >> | ;; would suggest the following: >> | >> | (define-key dired-mode-map "a" 'gnus-dired-attach) >> ` >> > > That's an excellent suggestion. It worked and raised two questions... > - How do you do that awesome left brace around the code? http://www.davep.org/emacs/boxquote.el > - Which server do you use to read newsgroups inside gnus? I am in > google groups but I hate it, however don't know any free public nntp > server. Anything useful here? http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ I have just got an account here http://albasani.net/ atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Faster smarter
andrea writes: > Some hints about what to set more or less? > The manual is great but not really understandable, a good tutorial would > also be a very good starting point. Hi Andrea, The old MyGnus tutorial is here:- http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusTutorial might be worth a look. In some ways section 6 might be the one to start with! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Incoming Mail always marked as read - 'O'
Since upgrading Emacs 23.1 and Gnus v5.13, I've had the problem that incoming mail is always marked as read - when it hasn't been read at all. This is not 100% - it always happens the first time I open Gnus; but if I leave Gnus running and later hit 'g' to get new mail then it will show up as unread. I'm not sure where to start fixing this; can anyone give me a clue? with thanks for your time Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: gnus scoring insanity
not...@bb.nothome.com writes: > Been using gnus for newsgroups for a couple weeks. I really like it > and while I wish for some functions like slrn, the bennies far > outweigh the downside with one exception! > > What's the deal with scoring for newsgroups? I've read half the gnus > Scoring section and understand none of it. Man pages are child's play in > comparison to the doubletalk that is the gnus manual. To wit: > > "The current score file is by default the group's local score file, > even if no such score file actually exists. To insert score commands > into some other score file (e.g. `all.SCORE'), you must first make > this score file the current one." > > Huh!? Can we please speak-a da English? Hi nb, You have to realise that in starting to use Gnus you are entering a world of mystery and magic, a world that responds to thoughtful contemplation and intelligent enquiry :-) Here is some snippage form my .gnus file with comments - the real; experts here will point out the mistakes :-) The one to get rid of articles you don't like is gnus-summary-expunge-below - see below. ;, ;| Scoring ;` ;:*=== ; SCORING - the central score file. Gnus wil populate your ~/News ; directory with lots of score files unless you tell it not to. I prefer ; having all this stuff in one file (setq gnus-home-score-file "/home/glyn/News/all.SCORE") ;;1. Adaptive scoring: Gnus KNOWS what you like to read! ;;* Scoring away boring stuff. (setq gnus-use-adaptive-scoring t) (defvar gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist '((gnus-unread-mark) (gnus-ticked-mark (from 4)) (gnus-dormant-mark (from 5)) (gnus-del-mark (from -4) (subject -1)) (gnus-read-mark (from 1) (subject 1)) (gnus-expirable-mark (from -1) (subject -1)) (gnus-killed-mark (from -1) (subject -3)) (gnus-kill-file-mark (from -999)) (gnus-ancient-mark (subject -1)) (gnus-low-score-mark (subject -1)) (gnus-catchup-mark (subject -1)) ) ) ;; Some extra headers for scoring purposes. (setq gnus-extra-headers '(Organization Newsgroups Keywords) nnmail-extra-headers gnus-extra-headers) ;; This one is a beauty - articles with a lower score than this will ;; not be shown in the summary buffer. (setq gnus-summary-expunge-below -999) Hope that helps get you started atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: import existing file - mark unrad
not...@bb.nothome.com writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> >> Hi there NB - glad to see you took the plunge! > > Hey, Glyn! Nice to hear from you. > > Yep, I finally got it all together. Now I'm navigating my file > system, editing files, yappin' on usenet and irc, shufflin' buffers, > tweaking variables, etc, all from a single emacs session, jes > like it was designed to do. This emacs thing is kinda fun. It's a way of life really! > BTW, I also moved. Not in CA anymore. Up in the CO Rocky boonies. Sounds good :-) atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: import existing file - mark unrad
not...@bb.nothome.com writes: > Moving along swimmingly, but still got lots of questions: Hi there NB - glad to see you took the plunge! > > 1. Can I import a file into a follow-up posting (being edited)? Seems > I saw a command to do so, but now can't locate it. I love the saved > posts in nndraft:drafts. Very handy when I lose a server connection, > which is often, lately. Anyway, I have to come back and try again and > would like to cat a saved draft into new/follow-up post. How? To insert a file do C-x i and magically a propmt will appear asking you for the name of the file > > 2. Is there a way to mark a file as plain ol' "unread"? Not r or R > or ! or O or any other of a seemingly jillion ways to mark a file so > it will re-appear in summary. Just plain ol' "unread", as if I'd > never seen/accessed it before. This so I can just go down a thread > using n to get each unread post. Preferably, mass mark multiple > articles at once. M-u will do the stuff. Good luck Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: More than one email acount @gnus
writes: > I'd like to manage more than only one email account > with my Gnus-Emacs mail-client. > > Have you an idea how I have to modify my .emacs file? > P.S. > A part of my present configuration: > ;; > ;;; GNUS Mail POP > ;; > (setq nnmail-pop-password-required t) > (setq mail-sources '((pop :server "XX.XXX.XXX" > :user "x...@xx.xx" > :password "XX"))) Well looking over the docs it seems to me that this should work: ie just slap your pop servers into the mail-sources list (setq mail-sources '( (pop :server "XX.XXX.XXX" :user "x...@xx.xx" :password "XX") (pop :server "YY.YYY.YYY" :user "y...@yy.yy" :password "") (pop :server "ZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ" :user "z...@zz.zz" :password "") )) I say "should work" because I've never had a reason to try it :-) As far as sending goes, you should be ok. > ;; > ;;; GNUS Mail SMTP > ;; > (require 'sendmail) > (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) > (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 25) > (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) > (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "XX") atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: What's a killed article ?
Francis Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That said, it's not the only point where I find the documenation > obscure or not enough detailed: what's a very wide mail reply for > example. , | | 3.5.1 Summary Mail Commands | | Commands for composing a mail message: | | S v | Mail a very wide reply to the author of the current article | (gnus-summary-wide-reply). A very wide reply is a reply that goes out | to all people listed in the To, From (or Reply-to) and Cc headers in | all the process/prefixed articles. This command uses the | process/prefix convention. ` That seems clear enough! > I can find ton of such example where you need to dig very deeply the > documentation to find such basic things, if the documentation exists at > all. I found the above by navigating to http://gnus.org/manual/big-gnus.html and searching for "wide" It wasn't too hard :-) atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: killing threads
Andreas Davour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a few really annoying posters in my kill file for a group I > read. I choose not to use scoring, since from what I've understood of > scoring I can't get the losers to just go away and not ever be visible, Yes you can! (setq gnus-summary-expunge-below -999) Will mean that anyone with a score of less than -999 will not be visible in the summary buffer atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: A question about splitting
Andreas Davour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm trying to split my mail, but it wont work like it should.
>
> This ends up in my "INBOX" nnfolder:
>
> MESSAGE
> From: Super-User
> Subject: Tapemonitor L700B
> To:
> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:00:01 -0500 (EST)
>
> END MESSAGE
>
> And my splitting rules look like this:
>
> CODE
> (setq
> nnmail-crosspost nil
> nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy
> nnmail-split-fancy
> ;; | means no nothing after first match
>
> `(| ("Subject" ".*sam-qfs-discuss.*" "qfs-discussion")
>
> (from ".* via RT.*" "RT")
>
> ;; if from my tape monitoring scripts, store in "tape-monitor"
> (Subject "^Tapemonitor.*" "tape-monitor")
>
> (from ".*Cacti.*" "Cacti-Alerter")
>
> ;; any general root mail from sunhpc1
> (to ".*root.*" "root-mail")
>
> ;; All remaining mail goes to the general INBOX
> "INBOX"))
>
> END CODE
>
>
> Any splitting expert who can tell me why the "Subject" rule don't seem
> to be triggered, and it trickles down to INBOX?
Hi Andreas
Have you tried setting it up like the other Subject rule there ie
("Subject" ".*Tapemonitor" "tape-monitor") ?
That should work :-)
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Arithmetic range error .......
Greetings! Emacs 22.2 on Gnu/Linux - Gnus 5.11 as it comes with Emacs When I try to access my archived outgoing mail, I get this error message "Arithmetic range error "floor", 276444513,3" and cannot enter the group, though other groups are still accessible. Can anyone give me a clue as to why this is happening and how I can fix it? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Deleting drafts
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 29 2008, Glyn Millington wrote: > >> Evans Winner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> I can't figure out how to delete old drafts, so the drafts >>> groups doesn't always come up with articles in it. Is there >>> a way to do that? >> >> The way I do it for individual drafts is to press 'e' to edit it and then >> do the C-c C-k dance which invokes message-kill-buffer > > What's wrong with `B DEL' (gnus-summary-delete-article)? Absolutely nothing!! Many thanks atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Deleting drafts
Evans Winner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't figure out how to delete old drafts, so the drafts > groups doesn't always come up with articles in it. Is there > a way to do that? The way I do it for individual drafts is to press 'e' to edit it and then do the C-c C-k dance which invokes message-kill-buffer - you will be asked if you want to delete the backup too; say yes and the thing is gone. hth Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Awesome eyecandy in the wikipedia article
rtra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The gnus screenshot at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnus > is awesome! How can I get my gnus to look like that? > > Thanks for any tip. The colours are a matter of customizing faces For the unicode thread trees I have this in my .gnus (when window-system (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-indent " ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-root "● ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-false-root "◯ ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-single-indent "◎ ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-leaf-with-other "├─► ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-vertical "│") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-single-leaf "╰─► ")) hth Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: learning gnus
David Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website, > but this is no longer on the web. > > There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there > are not any books about gnus ever written. Such a book would assume > that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read. > > I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a > cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break > things without any knowledge about what I am breaking. > > Reading the info manual is a 2 week task! > Thanks for advice. Will try (blindly). Here's the tutorial http://web.archive.org/web/20070607231356/http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/ alas its only an archived version. and there is some good stuff here http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en?CategoryGnus Hope that helps atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How do you select a server?... for gnus
thesak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's no .gnus file in my directory. > > On Jun 20, 3:54 am, Joel Reicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> thesak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Asking this question is difficult because it's not clear what isn't >> > clear! Anyway, from fencepost.gnu.org attempting to run gnus didn't >> > work. It might have something to do with the server. How do you select >> > a server? At this point there's no .newsrc file. >> >> What does your .gnus contain so far? >> >> Cheers, >> >> - Joel Hi Don Saklad You had a .gnus file back in 2002 - see this message http://tinyurl.com/3yce48 and in those far back days you seeemd to know what you were doing. so what happened? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Organization
GB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, I am new to Gnus.
>
> Could someone tell me how I could tell Gnus *not* to put the
> Organization: line in the header? Neither of these work:
>
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
> '((message-news-p
> (name "GB")
> (address "...&gmail.com")
> (organization nil)))
>
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
> '((message-news-p
> (name "GB")
> (address "...&gmail.com")
> (organization "")))
Hi Greg,
Try ("Organization" nil) in those posting styles. If you can't see my
organization, then it works!
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Re: frozen after lost connection
Gary Wessle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > I had to restart another copy of emacs to post this since the first > process is frozen after I hit "g" in the summery buffer to get the > latest articles, it has been showing the hour-glass for few minutes > and I don't know what to do but to kill the process and loose all > visited buffers. > > any idea? Have you tried hitting C-g ? atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Can't send mail with Emacs, can with XEmacs
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 03 2007, Glyn Millington wrote: > >> Recently I've been trying to use Emacs (21 and 22) but cannot persuade >> Gnus to send mail >> >> Postfix coughs up this error message >> >> , >> | Jan 2 13:46:20 beardedwonder postfix/smtp[6316]: 53C86156ED: >> | to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251 >> | .1]:25, delay=0.38, delays=0.07/0.09/0.06/0.15, dsn=4.0.0, >> | status=deferred (host smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251.1] said: 450 >> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender address rejected: Domain >> | not found (in reply to RCPT TO command)) >> ` >> >> Now I understand the message about the domain not being found; what I >> don't understand is why the self-same .gnus file allows me to send mail >> with XEmacs. Can't see anything in my init.el that would affect this. >> >> A successful mailing with XEmacs/Gnus looks like this in the logs >> >> , >> | Jan 2 16:59:31 beardedwonder postfix/smtp[4942]: 452A51C7D9: >> | to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251 >> | .1]:25, delay=0.41, delays=0.17/0.03/0.07/0.14, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent >> | (250 Ok: queued as BE492C0748) >> ` >> >> This was Oort Gnus. >> >> Can anyone suggest where I might begin on this? Do Emacs and XEmacs have >> different defaults for certain variables? > > Possible. Maybe `user-mail-address'. > > Do I understand correctly, that <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > is the problem when using Emacs? If so, try to find out which > variable has this value: > M-x apropos-value RET [EMAIL PROTECTED] RET Many thanks! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Can't send mail with Emacs, can with XEmacs
Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Recently I've been trying to use Emacs (21 and 22) but cannot persuade > Gnus to send mail > > Postfix coughs up this error message > , > | Jan 2 13:46:20 beardedwonder postfix/smtp[6316]: 53C86156ED: > | to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251 > | .1]:25, delay=0.38, delays=0.07/0.09/0.06/0.15, dsn=4.0.0, > | status=deferred (host smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251.1] said: 450 > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender address rejected: Domain > | not found (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > ` > > Now I understand the message about the domain not being found; what I > don't understand is why the self-same .gnus file allows me to send mail > with XEmacs. Can't see anything in my init.el that would affect this. > > A successful mailing with XEmacs/Gnus looks like this in the logs In case anyone else is seeking a solution to the same problem . I found that adjusting $myorigin in postfix's config file did the trick. But still don't see why Gnus under XEmacs would use the old config and under Emacs it would not! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Can't send mail with Emacs, can with XEmacs
A happy new year to you all! Recently I've been trying to use Emacs (21 and 22) but cannot persuade Gnus to send mail Postfix coughs up this error message , | Jan 2 13:46:20 beardedwonder postfix/smtp[6316]: 53C86156ED: | to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251 | .1]:25, delay=0.38, delays=0.07/0.09/0.06/0.15, dsn=4.0.0, | status=deferred (host smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251.1] said: 450 | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender address rejected: Domain | not found (in reply to RCPT TO command)) ` Now I understand the message about the domain not being found; what I don't understand is why the self-same .gnus file allows me to send mail with XEmacs. Can't see anything in my init.el that would affect this. A successful mailing with XEmacs/Gnus looks like this in the logs , | Jan 2 16:59:31 beardedwonder postfix/smtp[4942]: 452A51C7D9: | to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.eclipse.co.uk[82.153.251 | .1]:25, delay=0.41, delays=0.17/0.03/0.07/0.14, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent | (250 Ok: queued as BE492C0748) ` This was Oort Gnus. Can anyone suggest where I might begin on this? Do Emacs and XEmacs have different defaults for certain variables? thanks for any light you can bring! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus + Leafnode = 10 minutes to start
SINNER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > after I 'M-x gnus' it loads the active file and then gets new news, during > this time the system goes to 80%> CPU usage for about 10 minutes until > finally putting me at the group buffer. Try adding this to your .gnus (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil gnus-read-active-file nil gnus-nov-is-evil nil) See section 1.10 of the Gnus manual atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: summary buffer newb question
Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, a quick newb question, if possible - I've gotten everything set up > pretty happily (a nice summary-line-format, etc.) but I can't figure > out how to change the initial appearance of the summary buffer when I > first enter it from the group buffer - I'd like it to look the way it > does after hitting "=" and "T H", that is, with all threads minimized > and with no article selected (just the summary lines). Can I get a > clue on this? Also, and relatedly, are there any web-accessible > collections of .gnus files, as there are for .emacs files? Hi Peter, does (set gnus-thread-hide-subtree t) do what you want? On the links question ... There used to be my.gnus.org, but alas it is no more :-( Some useful places to look are The Emacs Wiki http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki They have a good section on Gnus Steve Youngs site http://users.bigpond.net.au/sryoungs/XEmacs/ Zonix http://www.zonix.de/projects/emacs Ulmer has some nice bbdb stuff. http://www.ulmer.org/?page_id=7 hth Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: unkilling mail?
David Chmelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I started trying gnus again, and I accidentally killed my nnmbox >> (after moving mail in). Is there a way to get it back; I do not >> want to suffer pine or thunderbird! I reinstalled emacs (on >> slackware 11), but maybe there is a config file not in ~/ that I >> missed; it still thinks mbox is 'dead'. > > Never mind, I found out that new mail unkills it. That is really > weird. Why? Isn't it just the system delivering the mail? If you have set up Gnus to collect from the system mailbox, then when there is mail around it will do so. Slack 11? Are you using sendmail then? If the system doesn't create a mmbox for you as a user - which it did for me here on Slack 11 - then as root do #touch /var/mail/david and make sure it's permissions are as below $ls -ld /var/mail/glyn -rw--- 1 glyn users 0 2006-11-01 08:51 /var/mail/glyn > I wish the gnus developers could be reached on efnet; it might be more > helpful. . . my post last year was never answered. Some are _very_ active here. atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changes After Ubuntu Upgrade
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I recently upgraded my office machine from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper. > > Though I can still read my mail and post, some things don't look right > and have even "broken". > > Using the `V' command in the "*Group*" buffer displays: > >No Gnus v0.4 > > Is that right? > > > Looking in /usr/share/emacs/21.4/lisp/gnus/gnus.el I find: > >(defconst gnus-version-number "5.9.0" > "Version number for this version of Gnus.") > > > I first noticed something "wasn't right" when I could no longer sort > my groups by unread articles using > "gnus-group-sort-groupsgnus-group-sort-groups-by-unread". > Invoking this now does nothing ... :-( > > Does anyone know what's going on? "User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux)" Yes - you have No Gnus v0.4 installed somewhere on your system. That is not, of itself, bad news :-) Ubuntu must install this somewhere for you, but I've no idea where, not being an Ubuntu/Debian user. Distant memories of using Debian suggest there may be a site-lisp directory somewhere . Try 'locate gnus' ? Good luck ... atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How many use eMacs and Gnus on daily basis?
notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't use emacs for everything, but it's very good for some things. > It's a great file manager and editor. I used to prefer jed as my > editor, but recently discovered emacs highlights .foorc files, > something jed doesn't. OTOH, I don't like gnus over slrn. I've been > told a million times it can be configured to do everything slrn can, > and more. But, I'm not into spending 12.8% of my remaining lifetime > learning how. Customising Gnus and/or (X)Emacs is addictive :-) Great sport for that time of life when rock-climbing or sumo-wrestling are no longer an option but you need to fight off senility by any available means ... > And what's with xemacs? I downloaded and discovered all the usual apps > I was expecting are now optional add ons requiring more time scaling > the curve to learn how. Download the latest xemacs packages bundle and the mule bundle (multi-lingual stuff) (both called sumo! the first is about 23MB) from ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/packages/ or your friendly neighbourhood mirror extract them in /usr/local/lib/xemacs and you should get two directories xemacs-packages and mule-packages XEmacs will find them when you restart. Some packages like Dired will work out of the box. Some you will have to start up from your ~/.xemacs/init.el file, the XEmacs equivalent of ~/.emacs C-h i will get you into the info reader and you can usually find the code for starting your desired package by reading the relevant entry. There is masses of good documentation. You can keep your packages up to date with the package handling system - that's another story, documented here http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html This is no worse than getting slrn and jed to play is it? :-) > Not now. Maybe later. Fair enough! atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: jed -> gnus newbie
notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I getting more comfortable w/ gnus, but there's still some confusing > issues. Same here :-) > 1. How are the bizarre letter combinations for some functions > keyed? IOW, for gnus-article-treat-overstrike, the gnus manual shows > the letter combo 'W v'. I know this is for washing verbose, but I can > only do it using the menu. There are others like G P a, H v, J M-#, > etc. How are these keyed? IIUC separate keys are keyd separately, hyphenated keys are keyed simultaeneously W W h C-c C-c yes? > > 2. Note my 'Sender:' header. Where is emacs getting that variable? >How can I change/disable it? (defun system-name () "nowhere.org") > 3. Is it possible to logon to my NNTP server with ssh? Howzabout with >xemacs? > I believe so, but have never tried it! Have a look at section 6.1.3 of the manual. >> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki > > That reminds me. What's the command to go to a URL? ...and where do I > set a browser? http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/BrowsingUrlsInGnusArticle > How to change to root from user so I can do a quickie sysadmin. Or, > must I start emacs from root? Now for that you need Tramp http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/TrampMode hth Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: jed -> gnus newbie
notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Well you can use >> >> (setq user-full-name "NOT BOB") >> (setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") > > Holy freakin' crap! ...thanks, Glyn. Gawd, I thought I was never > going to find those variables ...well, actually I still haven't, but I > know what to look for now and it seems to work. I posted to a test > ng ok. Works here too - bravo! > Again, thanks. Sometimes emacs documentation is so vast and emacs so > complex, one gets completely lost in it. It's a whole new world! The Emacs Wiki is a _very_ useful site:- http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki And for all those lovely packages which ensure that you will _never_ have to leave Emacs ever again http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html > I'll need it. No, jes kidding ...I'm doing ok. I've finally reached > the point where I no longer need to use other apps while just > diddling around in emacs. I can stay in emacs for many of the things > I do. That's the spirit :-) atb Glyn ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: jed -> gnus newbie
notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got gnus running, have my nntp server variable set, but still
> can't post. When trying to post to a test ng, I get an error msg:
>
> Denied posting -- the From looks strange: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
> . being my Slack box'es host name. OK, I'll change it to
> whatever.com, but where do I set the "from" header variable? Also,
> what about the other header settings like "name" (nick),
> "organization", etc.
Well you can use
(setq user-full-name "NOT BOB")
(setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
BUT if you use posting styles you can do that and more and when you are
ready do it on a per-group basis. Here are a few (munged) blocks from my
posting-styles section. (See section 5.5 of the Gnus manual)
(setq gnus-posting-styles
'((".*" ; 1st block - defaults
(signature-file "~/.sigs/usual")
(From "Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>")
(Reply-to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
(body "\n\nGlyn")
; ; ;; line above puts my name above sig.
(organization "Central Church, Torquay, U.K."))
;;; for usenet cover up a little - just a little.
(message-news-p ; ie if this is usenet
(From "Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>")
(Reply-to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
(organization "Utterly lacking")
(body "\n\nGlyn"))
("FRIENDS"
("X-Discordian-Date" (shell-command-to-string "ddate")))
("^alt.os.linux.slackware"
("X-Discordian-Date" (shell-command-to-string "ddate"))
(signature-file "~/.sigs/slack")
("X-Now-Playing" (gm-now-playing)))
("SLACKLIST"
(signature-file "~/.sigs/slack"))
))
^^ notice those two beauties
> I've been run ragged looking for info in my Learning Gnu Emacs
> (O'Reilly, 2nd ed) and emacs and gnus online manuals. But, info on
> these settings and others like my pop3 and smtp server settings are
> still unfound by me.
http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/Mail.html#Mail
section 7.2
personally I use good old fetchmail to download the mail and dump it in
/var/spool/mail/glyn
then gnus takes over, sorting the mail, dumping the dross :-)
for outbound mail I have postfix running and Gnus finds the sendmail
command and does the business without further instruction from me - but
section 7.2 tells about the other way...
Good luck
Glyn
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Re: Leans what face is at point
Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I used to now how to do this in gnus: > > put cursor on a message header and lean what that face was with > a [few?] keypress[es]. > > Something the showed the gnus face at point. > And I could then go directoy to that face to customize it. Using M-x > customize-aprops > > I'm not finding this in any of the help available at M-x apropos > > display.*face, show.*face, face.*point I think what you want is list-text-properties-at (can't remember if there should be a "point" on the end of that or not in Emacs hth Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How do I display all headers in gnus?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("=?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren?=" Dideriksen) writes:
> Hi, I can't seem to get gnus, to display all headers.
>
> usually I would do M-x gnus-article-show-all-headers
>
> but that doesn't seem to work anymore?
>
> Hope you can help.
>
> regards.
t
when reading the article will toggle the display of all the headers
atb
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Re: Deleting signatures in followups/replies
David Sumbler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way of automatically omitting whatever comes after the > "-- " in a message, when you press "F" or "R" to quote the original > article in a reply? (setq message-cite-function 'message-cite-original-without-signature) atb Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Toolbars visible, even when turned off?!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> anyway. > > They are only there in the *Group* buffer and when I write a new > email/news-article. In the *Summary* and *Article*-buffers, they > aren't. > > Odd. > > ,[ C-h v toolbar-visible-p RET ] > | `toolbar-visible-p' is a variable declared in Lisp. > | -- loaded from > "/home/mohura/packages/build-area/xemacs21-21.4.17/lisp/toolbar.elc" > | > | Value: nil > | > | Documentation: > | Whether the default toolbar is globally visible. > | This option can be customized through the options menu. > ` > > Baffling. > > > Best regards, Is gnus-group-toolbar or message-toolbar set somewhere _after_ toolbar-visible-p is loaded? Anything lurking in a site-lisp directory - I seem to recall that Debian sometimes sets up unexpected things for you, though it is a while since I used Debian. hth Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus vs Cache : need advice plus a question
Xavier Maillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > what about posting messages when offline then ? I've never got involved with agent! What I did here when I was on a dial-up connection was to use Leafnode, a small local news server which downloads messages for selected groups, stores them and then expires them. Via ip-up scripts it can be configured to send out posts when you dial up. Receiving and sending mail can be done with fetchmail, sendmail and those same ip-up scripts. But it is entirely possible that I have misunderstood what you are asking for hth Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: message-default-headers
Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Group parameters are dotted pairs, so should it be
>
> (message-default-headers . "Test-Header: foo") ??
Sorry to follow-up to myself - thinking before posting really helps :-(
The above is beside the point!! But posting styles may be the way to go!
atb
>
> However, in the manual "message-default-headers" is not listed as an
> acceptable group parameter. So maybe you could do it via the
> posting-style parameter which IS listed
>
> From manual section 2.10
>
> ,
> | posting-style
> |
> | You can store additional posting style information for this group here
> | (see section 5.5 Posting Styles). The format is that of an entry in
> | the gnus-posting-styles alist, except that there's no regexp matching
> | the group name (of course). Style elements in this group parameter
> | will take precedence over the ones found in gnus-posting-styles.
> |
> | For instance, if you want a funky name and signature in this group
> | only, instead of hacking gnus-posting-styles, you could put something
> | like this in the group parameters:
> |
> |
> |
> | (posting-style
> | (name "Funky Name")
> | ("X-My-Header" "Funky Value")
> | (signature "Funky Signature"))
> `
>
>
> Funky, eh?
>
>
> hth
>
>
>
>
>
> Glyn
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Re: message-default-headers
Jerry Sievers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello;
>
> I am trying to get a few custom headers into mail message buffers from
> Gnus and thought I could set the message-default-headers variable in
> the group parameters to make it work.
>
> ((total-expire . t)
> (message-default-headers "Test-Header: foo"))
>
> Doesn't work though.
>
> Tried making the message-default-headers variable buffer local and
> also tried setting message-generate-headers-first to 't' to no avail.
NB I am NOT an expert!!
Group parameters are dotted pairs, so should it be
(message-default-headers . "Test-Header: foo") ??
However, in the manual "message-default-headers" is not listed as an
acceptable group parameter. So maybe you could do it via the
posting-style parameter which IS listed
>From manual section 2.10
,
| posting-style
|
| You can store additional posting style information for this group here
| (see section 5.5 Posting Styles). The format is that of an entry in
| the gnus-posting-styles alist, except that there's no regexp matching
| the group name (of course). Style elements in this group parameter
| will take precedence over the ones found in gnus-posting-styles.
|
| For instance, if you want a funky name and signature in this group
| only, instead of hacking gnus-posting-styles, you could put something
| like this in the group parameters:
|
|
|
| (posting-style
| (name "Funky Name")
| ("X-My-Header" "Funky Value")
| (signature "Funky Signature"))
`
Funky, eh?
hth
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Error when printing with muttprint
Can anyone tell me what is happening here? When I use the menu item for
printing with muttprint I get the following error, though the printing
itelf works nicely!!
Xemacs 21.4.17, Gnus 5.10.7 on Linux
Thanks in advance for any light you can shed!
atb
Glyn
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-char-or-marker-p t)
=(0 t)
(if (= 0 (shell-command-on-region ... ... muttprint-command nil)) (message
"article printed with muttprint"))
(save-restriction (widen) (if (= 0 ...) (message "article printed with
muttprint")))
(progn (if w (progn ... ...) (pop-to-buffer buf)) (save-restriction (widen)
(if ... ...)))
(unwind-protect (progn (if w ... ...) (save-restriction ... ...))
(select-window GnusStartBufferWindow))
(let* ((GnusStartBufferWindow ...) (buf gnus-article-buffer) (w ...))
(unwind-protect (progn ... ...) (select-window GnusStartBufferWindow)))
(gnus-eval-in-buffer-window gnus-article-buffer (save-restriction (widen) (if
... ...)))
gnus-summary-pipe-to-muttprint(nil)
byte-code("..." [gnus-save-article-buffer save-buffer gnus-article-buffer
filename gnus-default-article-saver gnus-prompt-before-saving error "No default
saver is defined" default always t file num gnus-number-of-articles-to-be-saved
gnus-article-current-summary] 2)
gnus-article-save(# nil 1)
gnus-summary-save-article(nil t)
gnus-summary-muttprint(nil)
call-interactively(gnus-summary-muttprint)
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Re: gnus-posting-styles
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello > > I am not able to understand why I can't see the gnus-posting-styles > alist despite C-h v gnus-posting-styles which puts out > > , > | gnus-posting-styles's value is nil > | > | Documentation: > | *Alist of styles to use when posting. > | > | Defined in `gnus-msg'. > ` > > do I need to put (require gnus-msg) in me .emacs in-order to view and > customize this variable? No, but you do have to customise it yourself in .gnus - have you looked at section 5.5 of the Gnus manual where there are some simple examples. You can have some fun with these :-) Have a look at my headers for examples . Good luck Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: how to cancel a mail?
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Re: HELP: Gnus Can Not Access Leafnode!
Steven Woody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > for the reason of speed up, i changed my gnus configuration and conduct it to > access a local leafnode server, that is, > >(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "localhost")) > > i found the leafnode works okay, because the slrn can read news articles no > problem. of course, i have put a line in the /etc/nntpservers, > > localhost. > however, gnus seems not happy with this change. when i started it, it just > stalled. nothing display, no key can type in except the "ctrl-g". i checked > the > *Message* buffer, but almost nothing found. What happens if you start gnus, go away and make a cup of coffee and then come back? It sounds like gnus is taking a long time to read the active file atb Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: An unusual problem?
John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For some reason I cannot discover, emacs does not shutdown at the > C-xC-c command. > I'm running Redhat 9, and this problem cropped up apparently from the > blue > (i.e. I hadn't installed/changed anything that I was aware of). > Everything seems to be working fine within the program (w3m, mew, eshell). > Any ideas? Only to check that C-x C-c is bound to save-buffers-kill-emacs Do C-hC-k and then input C-xC-c what is that Key-combo bound to? atb Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Leafnode
Flatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > As I'm using 5 news servers and don't like the way agent handles them > for offline reading/posting (plugged/unplugged) I figured out I could > install my own local server . > > I thought about installing Leafnode. Anybody uses this with gnus ? > Are you happy with it ? What are the missing features, if any ? How do > you feal about the auto handling of groups and expiration ? Yup, I use it here, and it works nicely with Gnus. I've never noticed any missing features; it handles groups and expiry nicely. No problems atb Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to redefine keys?
Klaus Straubinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ;; prompt for mail replies to newsgroups! >> (defadvice gnus-summary-reply (around reply-in-news activate) >>(interactive) >>(when (or (not (gnus-news-group-p gnus-newsgroup-name)) >> (y-or-n-p "REALLY reply with a personal mail? ")) >> ad-do-it)) > > It would be much easier to set the variable > gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news. How right you are!! Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to redefine keys?
Colin Paul Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Although I have been using gnus for many years, I have not been able > to rid myself of the habit of always using the r or R keys, even > though I often should be using the f or F keys. > > Taking a hint from the FAQ, I tried adding the following to my .gnus > file: > > (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "r" gnus-summary-followup) > (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "R" gnus-summary-followup-with-original) > > but I get any error about the symbol gnus-summary-followup not being > defined. > > What's the best way to go about doing this? An alternative approach - putting this in your .gnus will make Gnus check whether you _really_ want to send an e-mail in reply instead of following up ;; prompt for mail replies to newsgroups! (defadvice gnus-summary-reply (around reply-in-news activate) (interactive) (when (or (not (gnus-news-group-p gnus-newsgroup-name)) (y-or-n-p "REALLY reply with a personal mail? ")) ad-do-it)) hth Glyn ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
