Re: retaining marked articles in summary buffer?
On Thu, Mar 02 2017,Ben Bacarisse wrote: [snipped 27 lines] > However, I suspect the OP's best choice is setting gnus-use-cache to > passive but then setting the display group parameter to something like > > [unread tick cache] > > (That's an array you set it to.) Will try this out. Thanks sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: retaining marked articles in summary buffer?
On Mon, Feb 27 2017,Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: [snipped 12 lines] >> if it's set to t (gnus-use-cache), won't all articles be cached? I >> only want to do this for interesting articles > > No, see Info gnus: > > To turn caching on, set ‘gnus-use-cache’ to ‘t’. By default, all > articles ticked or marked as dormant will then be copied over to your > local cache (‘gnus-cache-directory’). > > (That probably shouldn've been mentioned in the docstring for > gnus-use-cache, which is rather misleading: "use the cache to the full > extent of the law" sounds like "cache everything"). > so setting cache to t and marking with it ! will keep the article around forever ignoring the expiry settings too, right? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: retaining marked articles in summary buffer?
On Sun, Feb 26 2017,Enrico Schumann wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017, Adam Sjøgren writes: [snipped 20 lines] > When 'gnus-use-cache' is t, ticking (!) will also copy the > article to the cache. See http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_42.html . > if it's set to t (gnus-use-cache), won't all articles be cached? I only want to do this for interesting articles sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: retaining marked articles in summary buffer?
On Sat, Feb 25 2017,Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram@gmail.com> writes: > >> I usually mark articles that I want to read later with a * and it >> stays in the group, which is fine. However they disappear as new new >> articles come in and I have to get them back by hitting Y c . Is there >> a way to keep them in the summary buffer but the usual expiry of non >> marked articles happen? > > I usually tick the articles, with "!". Does that work the way you want? > > Right, what's the difference between * and ! then? I was told to use * a few years back. I believe I mentioned that I wanted to keep the article around indefinitely sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
retaining marked articles in summary buffer?
I usually mark articles that I want to read later with a * and it stays in the group, which is fine. However they disappear as new new articles come in and I have to get them back by hitting Y c . Is there a way to keep them in the summary buffer but the usual expiry of non marked articles happen? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: possible repost: create sent folder by year
On Thu, Sep 22 2016,Adam Sjøgren wrote: > Sivaram writes: > >> How do I make gnus create sent folders by year instead of the default >> archive:sent.2016.09 etc? I want to store my sent mails by year >> instead of by year. > > I do it like this: > > (setq gnus-message-archive-group > '((if (message-news-p) > (concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y")) > (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y") > > which creates yearly folders for news and mail, e.g. news-2016 and > mail-2016. Thanks. I've used the code above and it created folders in the same way. [snipped 6 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
possible repost: create sent folder by year
How do I make gnus create sent folders by year instead of the default archive:sent.2016.09 etc? I want to store my sent mails by year instead of by year. Not quite sure what to tweak. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Emacs 25.1 : gnus-load file, is it needed?
I tried to launch gnus from Emacs 25.1 by commenting out this line in my .emacs ;;(setq load-path (cons "c:/gnu/elisp/gnus-m0-15/lisp" load-path)) (require 'gnus-load) and it promptly said, cannot find gnus-load. What changes do I have to make now that I don't have to use gnus git files? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Sending emails from multiple accounts on same smtp server
I have an authinfo file of the following format machine smtp.gmail.com login nsivaramx...@gmail.com password xxx port 587 machine smtp.gmail.com login shanxx...@gmail.com password xxx port 587 Depending on the group I'm in, I'd like it to use one or the other account. I thought using a setup like (".*python\\.*" (visible . t) (display . all) (posting-style (address "nsivaram...@gmail.com") (name "Sivaram Neelakantan") (body "\n\nsivaram\n-- \n") (user-mail-address "nsivaram...@gmail.com"))) in posting styles would choose the right smtp id to send from authinfo but it doesn't seem to do that. Sometimes I see one or the other email FROM header depending on which group I entered first Any advice on how to make it choose the right smtp account based on address? and set the appropriate headers? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus Multiple Roles
On Tue, Dec 08 2015,B.V. Raghav wrote: > Hi, > > I have been successfully using alpine for a long time now. While > switching to gnus, I feel that the functionality of alpine that I find > missing are: > [snipped 8 lines] > The setting was: > (setq smtpmail-multi-associations > '((("To" . "help-gnu-emacs.*") bvraghav\.com) > )) > > Further I could not find a ready way to choose a specific smtp server > setting. > > Is there a way with the library, or a simple(r) recipe, that I can > adapt to my needs, in order to fulfil the requirements. Please take a look at Gnus Posting Styles in the manual, it might be what you're looking for sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Displaying Images in HTML Mail
On Sun, Mar 01 2015,Les Harris wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction for configuring Gnus to display images in HTML mail? Running Gnus v5.13 as shipped with Emacs 24.4. EWW renders the HTML in the Message buffer fine but loads no images. If I go to a URL outside of Gnus using EWW it renders images fine. I have set gnus-inhibit-images to nil in my Gnus config and yet I still have no images showing in the Gnus message buffer for an HTML mail. I have yet to find the relevant configuration for this so I thought I would ask and see if anyone knew. Any help appreciated, thank you. On which OS is this? On what platform is Emacs runnings,as the Windows port has a few steps that you need to follow. The following thread might be useful http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2015-01/msg00328.html If you're able to see png/jpeg outside of gnus, then the above instructions are moot. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: .gnus init file
On Tue, Feb 03 2015,B. T. Raven wrote: mailman.19148.1422850086.1147.info-gnus-engl...@gnu.orgSivaram Neelakantan Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:37:54 +0530 On Sun, Feb 01 2015,btraven wrote: [snipped 104 lines] Thanks, Sivaram. I have installed files you suggested above and added lines to .gnus, restarted emacs, and now gnus is much slower (long wait on black hourglass within Emacs. dynamic-library-alist shows same as before with older versions of dlls. Please launch Emacs without your init file, and check the dynamic-library-alist. That list of DLLs especially the gnutls one should be there in the ezwinports. I'm assuming you're using the stock install of Emacs 24.4 from the gnu website. My box is also win7 laptop (64-bit). I'm assuming that all this 32bit stuff will work since I think Emacs itself is still only 32 bit. Yes, it will work. Anyway now gnus is not even usable as newsreader so I am posting via newsguy web direct. I don't want to undo what I've done and will start reading the whole gnus manual to see if I can get more insight into what is going on. Anyway I am not able to see where the old dll's are coming from. Well, it is important that Emacs can find the exact versions of DLLs of the alist that it think it needs. Without that, nothing will work. IF it is finding older versions of DLLs, you prolly have to root through your win7 directories and at least temporarily rename those DLLs. Is it necessary to restart w32 itself? When I changed the PATH, I had to anyway reboot and so cannot say either way; it might be a good idea to reboot, Win systems are funky. There is a 493k libXpm.dll in the emacs.exe subdirectory (\emacs\bin). Is that supposed to be there? That shouldn't be a cause of any issues. You don't have to do anything to it. Add these to your .gnus.el (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems set to t if needed (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) (setq gnus-verbose 7) (setq gnus-verbose-backends 7) Typically you should see something like this in Messages buffer. --8---cut here---start-8--- Checking new news... gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) GnuTLS library loaded: libgnutls-28.dll gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) allocating credentials gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the trustfile: c:/cygwin/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the trustfile: c:/cygwin/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls callbacks gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls_init gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) got non-default priority string: NORMAL gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the priority string gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) non-fatal error: Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. [2715 times] news.eternal-september.org certificate could not be verified. gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate signer was not found: news.eternal-september.org gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate validation failed: news.eternal-september.org gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) allocating credentials gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the trustfile: c:/cygwin/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the trustfile: c:/cygwin/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls callbacks gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls_init gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) got non-default priority string: NORMAL gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the priority string gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) non-fatal error: Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. [3324 times] news.gmane.org certificate could not be verified. --8---cut here---end---8--- sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: .gnus init file
On Sun, Feb 01 2015,btraven wrote: I have both .emacs and .gnus in ~\ (w32 24.4) and am manually transfering gnus stuff from .emacs to .gnus Is there a way to have options customize write to a custom-set-variables paragraph in .gnus instead of in .emacs or does all the gnus stuff set through customize have to stay in .emacs Also is this the right place to ask about using openssl, gnutls, and other non-Emacs apps needed to make gnus a mail reader as well as a news reader? I have all of this in \emacs\gnutls: cacert.pem libgnutls-28.dll openssl.exe certtool.exelibgnutls-openssl-27.dll psktool.exe danetool.exelibhogweed-2-5.dllReadMe.txt gnutls-cli-debug.exe libiconv-2.dll regex2.dll gnutls-cli.exe libintl-8.dll srptool.exe gnutls-serv.exe libnettle-4-7.dll ssleay32.dll HashInfo.txtlibtasn1-6.dllzlib1.dll libeay32.dllocsptool.exe libgmp-10.dll OpenSSL\ License.txt and ssl.el in \emacs\site-lisp but the ssl.el may not be current (from 1999). In the emacswiki I read: I just set up Emacs +gnus+gmail mail send/receive on my win 7 laptop. And this might not be what you were looking for but here goes anyway. 1. Download the ezwinports bin files from sourceforge. Just take all of them, doesn't matter. Look for w32-bin files I believe 2. Put them in c:/gnu/ezwinports or c:/Emacs/ezwinports. err...unzip them of course. 3. look at your C-h v dynamic-library-alist Value: ((xpm libxpm.dll xpm4.dll libXpm-nox4.dll) (png libpng16.dll libpng16-16.dll) (tiff libtiff-5.dll libtiff3.dll libtiff.dll) (jpeg libjpeg-9.dll) (gif libgif-7.dll) (svg librsvg-2-2.dll) (gdk-pixbuf libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll) (glib libglib-2.0-0.dll) (gobject libgobject-2.0-0.dll) (gnutls libgnutls-28.dll libgnutls-26.dll) (libxml2 libxml2-2.dll libxml2.dll) (zlib zlib1.dll libz-1.dll)) These dlls should be there in unzipped directory. 4. Make sure that ezwinports dir is in the PATH in the MY Computer settings. Adding the path in Emacs doesn't work. And it has to be there BEFORE the cygwin path. which is important. 5. I have this settings for my .gnus --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq mail-sources '((pop :server pop.gmail.com :port 995 :user ...@gmail.com :password x :stream ssl))) ;;if retrieving from spool, delete temp file after 1 days (setq mail-source-delete-incoming 1) (setq mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm nil) (eval-after-load mail-source '(require 'pop3)) ;; (setq smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl) (setq smtpmail-smtp-server smtp.gmail.com) (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 465) (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems set to t if needed (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) ;; ;;so that sent-mail folders see To headers instead of from (setq gnus-extra-headers '(To )) (setq gnus-verbose 7) (setq gnus-verbose-backends 7) --8---cut here---end---8--- I don't think I used anything other than stock gnus .el files or anything outside of the the ezwinports. In fact, I used msmtp before but since the ezwinports binaries, it's fully native Emacs. 6. You'd need an .authinfo file in ~/ directory c:/Users/ADMIN/AppData/Roaming or somewhere 7. You may want to see this thread for more info http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2015-01/msg00328.html 8. If this works, gnus would render html and images too. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Cannot read partial active file msg
On Thu, Jan 29 2015,Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: I just noticed that I keep getting this message over the last few days. What does this mean? Opening nntp server on freenews.netfront.net...done Cannot read partial active file from nntp server. Reading active file via nndraft...done It probably means that the nntp server isn't returning any data when you're requesting a group listing. That's weird, I was getting these messages as it was downloading headers and now the server has completely stopped responding. Dunno, will wait for the server to come up sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Cannot read partial active file msg
I just noticed that I keep getting this message over the last few days. What does this mean? --8---cut here---start-8--- Opening nntp server on freenews.netfront.net...done Cannot read partial active file from nntp server. Reading active file via nndraft...done --8---cut here---end---8--- sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
On Sat, Jul 05 2014,Steven Arntson wrote: [snipped 14 lines] Gwene seems like it's been down for a couple of days. Anyone else had any trouble reaching it? One of those is-it-down.com websites told me it wasn't just me. works for me... sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: saving gwene RSS posts
On Thu, Apr 17 2014,Wolfgang Jenkner wrote: [snipped 17 lines] They should be still there, try `Y c' in the summary buffer, see ahh, yes, that does bring it up. Thanks for the help (info (gnus) Summary Generation Commands) How I keep certain articles in the group without it ever expiring unless I mark it for deletion or delete it. Change the value of gnus-use-cache from `passive' to some other non-nil value. You can then mark those articles as `ticked' or `dormant' and that will automatically mark them as persistent as well. See (info (gnus) Article Caching) and (info (gnus) Unread Articles). Alternatively (well, even at the same time...) you could agentize the server in question and then you don't need any of the stuff described above since, by default, the agent doesn't expire ticked articles in its own cache (which is different from the cache described above). Agentize is not something I want to try for fear of downloading massive list of articles. Besides I'm likely to mess things up with agent. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: saving gwene RSS posts
On Thu, Mar 06 2014,Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: I've had a look at article caching and I can't figure how that would apply to my use case. Some RSS articles I want to save for long term reference. Is it enough to simply copy them to some other folder, preferably in the same format that I see in the gwene ng? The `*' command will cache the message locally. Looks like I misunderstood what the * option does for caching. I've been marking some articles with * and I see that it has all expired now and no longer in the group. I think my use case goes like this. How I keep certain articles in the group without it ever expiring unless I mark it for deletion or delete it. I've subbed to some RSS feeds where I'd like to retain specific posts forever within the group. How do I do that, please? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: saving gwene RSS posts
On Wed, Mar 05 2014,Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: What's the best/preferred way to save RSS full text feeds? I've subscribed to a few RSS feeds and I'd like to save some of those articles/posts. I think mailing them to myself is certainly not the way. something like marking them and upon exiting the group, it copies the article to a nnml folder, perhaps? Gnus can copy messages to local storage using a caching mechanism. See the manual for details. I've had a look at article caching and I can't figure how that would apply to my use case. Some RSS articles I want to save for long term reference. Is it enough to simply copy them to some other folder, preferably in the same format that I see in the gwene ng? 3.16 Saving Articles section gives some options that I find it hard to choose from. Any advice? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: using a browser from ma gnus 0.7
On Fri, Jan 31 2014,Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: After subbing to some RSS groups, gnus seem to render the html as well as images well. Clicking on a link however doesn't seem to work. A few more questions on shr. Just wanted to know whether there are options to magnify the text of the buffer and images. Gnus renders RSS posts beautifully but the images are resized and I do want to magnify them while reading or reduce them further, if need be. Firefox does this with the + - keys(both text and images). sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
saving gwene RSS posts
What's the best/preferred way to save RSS full text feeds? I've subscribed to a few RSS feeds and I'd like to save some of those articles/posts. I think mailing them to myself is certainly not the way. something like marking them and upon exiting the group, it copies the article to a nnml folder, perhaps? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: using a browser from ma gnus 0.7
On Fri, Jan 31 2014,Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: After subbing to some RSS groups, gnus seem to render the html as well as images well. Clicking on a link however doesn't seem to work. What's the value of the `mm-text-html-renderer' variable? It's shr sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
using a browser from ma gnus 0.7
After subbing to some RSS groups, gnus seem to render the html as well as images well. Clicking on a link however doesn't seem to work. What do I have to do get it sorted? Either Gnusy rendered or launching an external browser? Any help appreciated as I don't recollect what I did to get something in html rendered in gnus. A gnus search of url and browser in the info pages didn't seem to help. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
RSS article with images from blogger causes Gnus to hang
I've subscribed to the news.gwene.org r-bloggers newsfeed and I've noticed that if the article links to blogspot.com png image, gnus kicks off an openssl client call on port 80 and it becomes unresponsive. C-g doesn't work and I'm forced to terminate Emacs 24.3 on Win 7. I also have cygwin installed which has openssl which works fine with Emacs I think, as I believe that connects to gmail to fetch my emails. Why are ssl calls triggered for blogger sites and how do I make it go away or make Gnus give up if it doesn't connect? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to Track down why gmane is asking for authentication suddenly
On Fri, Aug 23 2013,Harry Putnam wrote: [snipped 35 lines] I suggest you check the cited gmane link above to see if your IP is similarly banned. I left word on gmane.discuss of what I've posted above but no one has responded. Maybe some one here can throw some light on this. I vaguely remember getting banned a few years back and it then went away in a few days, I think. Or I may have mailed Lars and he may fixed something sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
change in default Follow up behaviour?
On this and other newsgroups, I believe a 'F' follow up, to any message would only send it to the newsgroup. It's been so long that I don't notice the headers when I do a follow up but only have I noticed that it replies to the poster and CCs the list. Is that how follow ups are supposed to work? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: expiring with gnus-parameters
On Fri, Jun 28 2013,Harry Putnam wrote: [snipped 21 lines] The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog, without me actually doing any intervention. Yes, me too. I've always wondered whether there's any way to do this without opening the groups. If it can be bound to M-g and that too only once/24 hrs, it would be great. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Colouring diff-part of an email
On Wed, Mar 06 2013,Tassilo Horn wrote: [snipped 7 lines] Not sure, but I think Gnus can already do highlighting of org-mode style source code blocks like the following: #+BEGIN_SRC diff +Some text added -Some text deleted +Some more text added #+END_SRC Can see the above in colour, if it helps [snipped 11 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: does anyone have a workaround for the Hiding the thread moved us backwards, aborting! bug yet?
On Fri, Sep 21 2012,Randal L. Schwartz Randal L. Schwartz wrote: it's driving me crazy. :( We're on a Gnus mailing list, which by definition is where the crazies congregate (Have you seen normal email clients/MUAs, recently?). You're not out of the ordinary, here. :-) And no, I have no idea of the bug or the resolution. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?
It just struck me that I have not met a single person who's a Gnus user in flesh and blood; Emacs, once in a while but gnus? Nyet, nada, nope! It's getting lonely you know... Have you? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Widows - Fetchmail type utility
On Thu, May 03 2012,Slackrat wrote: For the time being I am compelled to use Windows in an Internet Cafe environment. Is there a utility to POP mail off servers apart from gnus itself which I am using and apart from installing Cygwin I believe you may be able to find windows compiled versions of mpop which does pop http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpop/files/mpop/ I haven't used it but the author does reply promptly to emails. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: multiple gmail accounts: smtp and expiry
On Wed, Apr 18 2012,Richard Riley wrote: [snipped 15 lines] In addition the msmtp solution is not nice since (a) its external to emacs/gnus and (b) passwords are kept in clear text as opposed to the much more preferablie .authinfo.gpg. Possibly there is some cleaver way around that but I dont know. Again true! But If I had smtp, gmail accounts and all the knickknacks working in Emacs, I wouldn't have gone on to looking at msmtp? [snipped 6 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: multiple gmail accounts: smtp and expiry
On Tue, Apr 17 2012,Richard Riley wrote: [snipped 19 lines] And if people have better ideas, they'd correct it on the wiki. Except in reality they don't. Mutiple smtp accounts has numerous solutions - some which do and some which dont work with multiple gmail accounts and the latest Gnus and for someone not familiar with elisp to True. You at least know what didn't work. :-) [snipped 6 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: multiple gmail accounts: smtp and expiry
On Sat, Apr 14 2012,George McNinch wrote: Hi, To the extent that this is useful, I thought I'd share some idea(s)/solution(s) to issues related to smtp and expiry for multiple gmail accounts in gnus. Nice. If I may be bold enough to request, why don't you put this up in emacswiki? All I did for GnusMSMTP link in wiki was simply write down stuff similar to way you'd done here. It took me 10m to figure things out on the wiki. [snipped 113 lines] And if people have better ideas, they'd correct it on the wiki. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
mairix use in Gnus
In light of this post, can someone provide a few steps in indexing and searching Gnus nnml email using mairix,please? For a win32 Emacs version. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/148955 where Eli has apparently ported it to Windows. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus with multiple imap accounts: Google complains?
On Mon, Feb 13 2012,Thorsten wrote: [snipped 13 lines] Anybody out there who had the same problem? How do I convince google I'm not a robot when I use w3m without X and cannot see the captchas? It seems the problem has gone away by itself - using google with w3m works again. Not sure what happened. The magic healing forces of time probably. Is there a way to slow down the 4 simultaneous connections(say, random time waits) to gmail, so that gmail doesn't think you're a bot? Just asking sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: View seen articles in summary
On Tue, Dec 13 2011,Philippe M. Coatmeur Philippe M. Coatmeur wrote: Hi everyone ; I'm getting up to speed with gnus and I really like to be able to format and mail any piece of text. But there is one thing that I can't seem to understand : How to make the (imap folders) summary display, well, *all* articles exept those that I explicitely delete of flag otherwise ? The articles are here, they exist, I can search them using nnir, and they magically re-appear, bit how can I make them stay there ? In the Group Buffer, against a group, hit ' G P' and enter the following ((display . 100)) and then hit C-c C-c. Now enter the group, you should see the last 100 articles; the number can be changed to suit your taste. You may also want to read up on 'Group Parameters' in the info file. Couple of additionnal noob questions : -How to make the mail fields (To:, Subject:, etc.) read-only ? Could you elaborate on this? -How to set the default number of displayed (nntp) articles, say to 200 ? Phil See the first suggestion. It may be a good idea to do it in the .gnus file by doing something like this (mail\\.misc (visible . t) (display . all) (posting-style (address nsivar@gmail.com) (name Sivaram Neelakantan) (body \n\n sivaram\n -- \n) (user-mail-address nsivar@gmail.com))) on a per group basis. See also Posting Styles documentation. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Follow up via news
On Sat, Dec 10 2011,Ian Zimmerman wrote: Hi. For some odd reasons, I like all my groups served by my IMAP server, even those that are really newsgroups. I do this by reading the newsfeed with suck [1] in a cronjob and mailing the articles to myself. This works pretty well, but there is one problem, I want to stop lurking and actually take part in the discussion. So, I have to post to the original newsgroup. But Gnus treats the articles as mail because they appear to come from IMAP, and so hitting f or F gives me a mail message to compose. How can I teach Gnus that some of my groups are really news and should be followed up to with a news post? Interesting way of reading news...really! I don't have an idea but I think working with Posting Styles might be the way to force it to do something newsy from news articles piped in through IMAP. Guessing here. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus Reply With Original Message Quoted
On Thu, Oct 06 2011,Burton Samograd wrote: Hello, [snipped 9 lines] Is there a setting to allow this behaviour to work properly? I'll add that I am running the git version of emacs so there might be a bug due to a new gnus merge, but I thought I would ask on here to see if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks. -- Burton Samograd What does 'R' instead of 'r' give as that's the key to quote the original message? And if 'R' does not work, can you tell what it's bound to, in the Summary buffer by trying C-h k R ? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: unable to see mails in mail.misc
On Thu, Sep 29 2011,Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: On No Gnus v0.17, GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO, after mail splitting, I can't see the mails in the mail.misc even though the log says it's there and I can see the article file number. (setq nnmail-split-methods '((sas-l ^Subject:.*SAS-L*) (mail.misc ))) which did this Wrote c:/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/Mail/sas-l/1914 Wrote c:/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/Mail/sas-l/1915 Wrote c:/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/Mail/sas-l/1916 Wrote c:/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/Mail/mail/misc/443 nnml: Reading incoming mail (4 new)...done ... Checking the folder, the file is there -rw-rw-rw- 1 sivaram None 17478 09-27 22:55 441 -rw-rw-rw- 1 sivaram None 9309 09-28 22:11 442 -rw-rw-rw- 1 sivaram None 3042 09-29 16:54 443 but I can't see it in mail.misc! I don't have anything in Group Parameters that would prevent viewing. Where do I start debugging? sivaram -- anyone? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Gnus Reply With Original Message Quoted
On Thu, Oct 06 2011,Burton Samograd wrote: Sivaram, Please note this message was manually quoted. What does 'R' instead of 'r' give as that's the key to quote the original message? And if 'R' does not work, can you tell what it's bound to, in the Summary buffer by trying C-h k R ? When I type R on your message I get the following buffer: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: That is it (without the dashed lines). R is bound to: R runs the command gnus-summary-reply-with-original Stumped. That's what is bound for me too. You should probably generate a bug report and mail it in. M-x gnus-bug will capture details; please edit it to remove any info that might be sensitive and then mail it in. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: unable to see mails in mail.misc
On Fri, Oct 07 2011,Ian Zimmerman wrote: On No Gnus v0.17, GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of ^ I bet the problem is there. (also your other problem with quoting.) Err...why do you say that? Mine is a stock install from the gnu website. GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO is what I get for m-x Emacs-version on the XP laptop that I installed it on. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: unable to see mails in mail.misc
On Thu, Sep 29 2011,Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: On No Gnus v0.17, GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO, after mail splitting, I can't see the mails in [snipped 21 lines] but I can't see it in mail.misc! I don't have anything in Group Parameters that would prevent viewing. Where do I start debugging? sivaram -- addendum, If I do a G d in the Group buffer, I'm able to read that folder and see all the mails 424: nndir:c:/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/Mail/mail/misc which is a bit puzzling as to why nothing is showing up in the nnml folder instead. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Problem incorporating old mail from Thunderbird
On Thu, Jul 07 2011,Angel de Vicente Angel de Vicente wrote: Hi, I'm trying to import all my archived mail, which until now I was managing with Thunderbird. I have several archive files in Thunderbird, and all of them have worked very well when importing to Gnus (G f), but with one of them, it only finds 3 articles, despite the actual number being around 3700. [snipped 14 lines] I have no idea how you're doing the importing of the emails. It might be a good idea to mail the list on how you're doing the Thunderbird-Gnus migration so that it can help others, when you're upto it. Or even better do it on Emacswiki. Now to your problem How about moving small number of messages at a time to a new folder within Thunderbird (don't know how its archiving works) and then export it and see whether Gnus imports it correctly? Maybe, the first few messages in the archive may be borking the entire folder import? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Incomingxxxxx files in Mail directory
On Thu, Jul 07 2011,Slackrat wrote: ang...@iac.es a écrit profondement: | Hi, | I'm slowly configuring Gnus to my taste (by the way, great software!!!), | but I still have some issues. One of them is regarding Incoming | files in my Mail directory. My setting involves calling fetchmail to get | mail from my IMAP server and drop it into my localhost spool | directory. Then Gnus takes that and populates the Mail directory with | all the mail (nnml back-end, in case it is relevant). All fine, but | loads of Incoming files are created in Mail directory (apparently | every time that I check the IMAP server and get new mail: more or less | every 15 minutes), which are apparentely not deleted. Is this normal? | Will they go away? Do I have to delete them? They only persist for 24 hours Otherwise set up an hourly cronjob to zap them: rm /home/yourlogin/Mail/Incoming* If you set it to the following in gnus.el, those incoming files will be deleted in 1 day(you can change it to any number). If you want to delete it immediately, change the value to t. ;;if retrieving from spool, delete temp file after 1 days (setq mail-source-delete-incoming 1) (setq mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm nil) mail-source-delete-incoming' If non-`nil', delete incoming files after handling them. If `t', delete the files immediately, if `nil', never delete any files. If a positive number, delete files older than number of days (the deletion will only happen when receiving new mail). You may also set `mail-source-delete-incoming' to `nil' and call `mail-source-delete-old-incoming' from a hook or interactively. `mail-source-delete-incoming' defaults to `10' in alpha Gnusae and `2' in released Gnusae. *Note Gnus Development::. See the section on Mail Source Customization in the Gnus manual. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
On Wed, Jul 06 2011,Angel de Vicente Angel de Vicente wrote: [snipped 7 lines] I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. I'm sure it is somewhere in there, but the number of available options in Gnus is just overwhelming Go to the Group listing and hit G P to go to Group Parameters and add the following ((display . 100)) and then C-c C-c. This will show the last 100 articles and you can change it to any number you choose to. [snipped 10 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Save old messages (nnml)
On Sat, Jun 04 2011,Felix Natter wrote: hello, is there a software that converts nnml/nnmbox mail folders to HTML (or similar) so that they can be read (and maybe searched) without having that Gnus version around? I couldn't find anything via http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Thanks! Not sure whether this would help or meets your needs... http://dcssrv1.oit.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html#whatis sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: libgnutls support?
On Sun, Mar 06 2011,Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: It would appear that Emacs now can be compiled with libgnutls support. Is there a way or a plan for letting gnus make use of that? Gnus uses it automatically if you say (require 'gnutls) It's still experimental, though, which is why it's not used by default. and what would that entail in terms of .gnus configuration, if at all? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: citation line above or below body?
On Sat, Feb 26 2011,Damien Wyart wrote: * Sébastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com in gnu.emacs.gnus: ---8---[snipped 19 lines]---8--- I guess the above elide function is automatic. When pressing `C-h a', I see I only have one version of it, the one (`message-elide-region') which inserts ellipsis. How do you get a line-count? See these messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/msg06474.html http://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/msg06477.html By coincidence, I'd mailed Lars to ask whether he could merge that patch into message.el. I'd recently installed stuff on a new machine and found that message-elide-region was not working for me. Turns out it's not applied to the file. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: General advice - incorporating gmail IMAP
On Sun, Feb 20 2011,Harry Putnam wrote: [snipped] Googling for windows pkgs of gnutls-cli or openssl. What's available, is confusing. Some of the pkgs available appear to be only for 32 bit, some seem pretty shakey as to being appropriate to windows7 and onward. Are there 64 bit pkgs that are known to work on win7 without lots of tweaking and fiddling? Well, you're best bet on Windows is probably cygwin which has all the above packages. But my experience is limited to 32 bit XP. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: organization in gnus
On Mon, Feb 21 2011,prad wrote: i'm trying develop more proper techniques for gnus now that i've used it for a couple of months. in a typical email system, i used folders. i don't know if this is a good way or not to do things. i know gnus offers levels which are like color settings for priority in email, but i don't have an understanding of how to best use this yet - or whether it can be a substitute for folders. what methods of organization do people use with gnus for both email and news? You can still use folders in gnus. Using nnml backend might be a good bet as it's 1 file per email message. and I think you're probably mixing up scoring with levels. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP- Gmail mark sent as read
On Fri, Dec 24 2010,Richard Riley wrote: Can someone suggest a way to make sent email as read in imap? I want to subscribe to my gmail Sent Items but dont want to see a total of unread in the Gnus group line. Does setting this help? Found this in the manual but not sure whether it applies to IMAP. gnus-gcc-mark-as-read' If non-`nil', automatically mark `Gcc' articles as read. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
editing group info to fix issues
I did a G z on some groups to sequence the article numbers and now I can't see any unread mail; it all turns up as read in the nmml folder. Is this a bug? I believe the way to fix this is to edit the group via G E to fix the article numbers. But I can't find any information in the info files on how to interpret the G E buffer and what should be changed to get to see unread mails. Is there any info? For e.g. how do I interpret this? The sas-l folder has files going upto 647 and I can't see new emails as it's getting marked as read. (sas-l 2 ((1 . 647)) ((tick 1) (seen (1 . 637) (3558 . 3596))) nil ((total-expire . t) (gnus-list-identifiers SAS-L Digest -) (expiry-wait . 10))) sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
editing .newsrc.eld file
After renumbering my nnml articles (forgot the command in Gnus) in some folders, all the marks are now knackered. My mail.misc has articles numbered 1-60 whiles the newsrc.eld file has something like . 400 or so. which has resulted in not being able to see any mails at all in the mail folder. And so on for other folders. How do I fix this? What should I edit in the .newsrc.eld file? I also have some adaptive scoring files too, if it is of any relevance. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Not quoting the email address in news/mailing lists followups
Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net writes: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: How do I configure the news/mailing lists followups and replies to not quote the reply to address? C-h v message-citation-line-function RET C-h v message-citation-line-format RET You get to write your own function to mangle the email address as you prefer, or adjust the formatting preferences. The later will allow you to omit the address entirely, though, without having to do more custom work. I changed it to (setq message-citation-line-format On %a, %b %d %Y,%F %L wrote:\n) is what I eval'ed and it doesn't seem to have changed the citation to remove your email address. What gives? [snipped 25 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Not quoting the email address in news/mailing lists followups
How do I configure the news/mailing lists followups and replies to not quote the reply to address? On another mailing list, I was asked to configure my mail client to remove the email address Please Configure Your Mailer To Not Quote Raw E-mail Addresses In Your Replies. Some mailers include the raw e-mail address in the Joe j...@example.com wrote: line. The web archives for the mailing lists are publicly available. Let's not feed the spam harvesters! http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR I couldn't see anything in the replies and follow ups section in the manual. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
POP: mail size details patch works
I don't update my gnus that frequently so this may be a bit late. But whoever committed a patch for getting the mail size when fetching mail via POP, well it works. Retrieving message 1 of 4 from pop.gmail.com... (29.0k) Retrieving message 2 of 4 from pop.gmail.com... (31.2k) Retrieving message 3 of 4 from pop.gmail.com... (26.9k) Retrieving message 4 of 4 from pop.gmail.com... (26.2k) Before I used to get only the message, now I get the mail size too. Thanks for the patch. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: ``You have lines longer than xx characters. Really post?''
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes: Hi, When posting a message on Usenet, I often receive the message ``You have lines longer than xx characters. Really post(y/n)?'' Is there a way to break lines after xx characters in Gnus? I had already written code in the .emacs to make this, but it seems not to be used in Gnus. Thanks. You could try M-q to break the line automatically. M-q runs the command fill-paragraph, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `fill.el'. It is bound to M-q. If justify is non-nil (interactively, with prefix argument), justify as well. If `sentence-end-double-space' is non-nil, then period followed by one space does not end a sentence, so don't break a line there. The variable `fill-column' controls the width for filling. The fill-column var decides where the line will break. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Debugging msmtp in gnus
Thomas Bach bac...@uni-mainz.de writes: [snipped 21 lines] What does the msmtp log say? Thats another thing: msmtp doesn't log neither. It does when invoked on the command-line, but it doesn't when I am in gnus. Thats another reason why I'd like to have the whole command gnus invokes, just to check that there is really a /usr/bin/msmtp at the beginning. hmmm...I'm fairly confident that this means, Emacs can't find msmtp to send the email OR msmtp is looking at the wrong place for the configuration files. See, if I do M-x shell and type /usr/sbin/msmtp --version msmtp version 1.4.13 TLS/SSL library: OpenSSL Authentication library: GNU SASL Supported authentication methods: plain cram-md5 digest-md5 external login IDN support: enabled NLS: disabled System configuration file name: /etc/msmtprc User configuration file name: /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/sivaram/Application Data/.msmtprc and from the cygwin command line [siva...@~] $ /usr/sbin/msmtp.exe --version msmtp version 1.4.13 TLS/SSL library: OpenSSL Authentication library: GNU SASL Supported authentication methods: plain cram-md5 digest-md5 external login IDN support: enabled NLS: disabled System configuration file name: /etc/msmtprc User configuration file name: /home/sivaram/.msmtprc Try msmtp --version from within the Emacs shell and copy the msmtprc file there and try again? [snipped 10 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Debugging msmtp in gnus
Thomas Bach bac...@uni-mainz.de writes: [snipped 43 lines] Are you using 23.1 or 22.2? Because 23.1 requires the first line below to work (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program /usr/sbin/msmtp) (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments '(-a xx)) (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems set to t if needed (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) I use cygwin msmtp and win32 Emacs-23.1. What does the msmtp log say? One other to check is to where msmtp looks for its configuration files from within Emacs by launching it within the Emacs shell. On the new computer, the HOME env might be different and that's why it's not working? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Emacs 23.1 and sending email through msmtp
Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com writes: On 31 juil, 04:07, Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com wrote: [snipped 17 lines] Do you want to answer to http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.gnus/browse_thread/thread/ace026067d5d7806 ? Sorry, I can't help with that. But have you tried to send an email with a different email client and check whether it is faster? If I'm sending mail through msmtp, Gnus does wait for about 10 secs before UI is accessible again and this is on Windows? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Emacs 23.1 and sending email through msmtp
Apparently in 23.1, on windows at least, you may have to set message-send-mail-function explicitly to use sendmail. On the earlier 22.2, this was not needed if you're using some other MDA. (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) ;;;use msmtp instead of sendmail (setq sendmail-program /usr/sbin/msmtp) Otherwise Emacs tries to launch the default windows associated mail client. In my case, it was puzzling to see it launch Firefox when I was trying to send email. A look at the docs showed that there are a number of options to message-send-mail-function. Hope this helps someone in a similar situation. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
removing all marks and starting over again
A couple of weeks back, I mentioned that the news server that I used had a change. And I edited the newsrc file to replace the news server name with the new name. Ever since, the unread count is varying wildly for the groups I subscribe to. It shows zero when I definitely have not read some of the articles in each. How do I reset the marks and start all over again? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Why are incoming mails saved twice?
Hermann meinelis...@onlinehome.de writes: Hi, I use nnml as mail backend, and I figured out that arriving mails are stored twice: In ~/Mail/mail/misc with numbers and in ~/Mail as Incoming*. When I clean up my inbox, those Incoming* mails still exist. Is there a way to get rid of them without destroying the structure of mail handling? Simply deleting all this mails is perhaps no good idea? Hermann I think you're referring to the incoming spool files. Those can automatically deleted by Gnus by setting the following. Mine deletes them after 1 day, you can set it to any value. (setq mail-source-delete-incoming 1) (setq mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm nil) sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Can I grab mopre than one address for BBDB?
Andreas Davour ante...@updatelike.uu.hellse writes: Martin Fischer nos...@nospam.net writes: Andreas Davour writes: Hi guys. I've been using BBDB for storing e-mail addresses from people for a while now. I've tried to find some info in the BBDB docs how to use it with gnus, but found little. If I get an e-mail From: FOO and CC: BAR is there a way to add BAR to my BBDB address book? Using : only adds FOO. Ideas? M-x bbdb/gnus-show-all-recipients RET ? That did the trick! Thanks Martin! Hmm. Are there any reasons not to have that command run every time I open an e-mail? Records already in my address book wont get affected, right? [snipped 21 lines] Well, I can't seem to get what you are missing apart from the feature you asked but let me try explaining how I use BBDB; if that is of any help to you. When reading mail in the summary buffer hitting ';' prompts me to add the name if it does not already exists. C-c b asks me for a regex to search the BBDB and it shows the matches in another buffer. If that buffer is made the focus, hitting C-h m will show all the keys you can use to edit/add names, aliases and such. I seem to have the following customisations all over the place ;;in .emacs '(bbdb-get-addresses-headers (quote ((authors From Resent-From Reply-To) (recipients Resent-To Resent-CC To Cc CC BCC '(bbdb-get-only-first-address-p nil) '(bbdb-info-file c:/gnu/elisp/bbdb-2.35/texinfo/bbdb.info) BBDB in .gnus.el ;== ; BBDB ;== (require 'bbdb) (require 'bbdb-com) (require 'bbdb-gnus) (require 'bbdb-hooks) (require 'gnus-bbdb) ;; ;;need for TAB expansion in headers for addresses (require 'message-x);; search for message-x.el on the web ;; (setq message-x-body-function ;; '(lambda () (interactive)(hippie-expand nil))) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus) (bbdb-insinuate-message) (setq bbdb-send-mail-style 'message) (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-define-all-aliases) (global-set-key (kbd C-c b) 'bbdb) (autoload 'bbdb/gnus-lines-and-from bbdb-gnus) (setq gnus-optional-headers 'bbdb/gnus-lines-and-from) (gnus-bbdb-insinuate-summary-buffer) (setq bbdb-completion-display-record nil) (setq bbdb-north-american-phone-numbers-p nil) (setq bbdb-complete-name-allow-cycling t) (setq bbdb-define-all-aliases-mode 'all) (setq bbdb-default-country nil) Have you had a chance to look at the info file? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Feature Request: Message-elide-region showing lines snipped and taking a string
Katsumi Yamaoka yama...@jpl.org writes: Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: The key C-c C-e currently elides a region of text and produces the following [...] [snipped 40 lines] works great. Thanks. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Feature Request: Message-elide-region showing lines snipped and taking a string
Reiner Steib reinersteib+gm...@imap.cc writes: [snipped 27 lines] Used Katsumi's patch. Thanks anyway. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Feature Request: Message-elide-region showing lines snipped and taking a string
The key C-c C-e currently elides a region of text and produces the following [...] Can it have some customised options to show the number of lines of text elided and also some text that the user can add? Something like [snipped 5 lines] [5 lines of irrelevant text snipped] Ideally, [...] or [snipped x lines] can be made default with the option of the user being able to change the text. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: gnus and pine
Xavier Maillard x...@gnu.org writes: [...] I would be interested to know if there are statistics about the gnus userbase. Gnus is popular but I am pretty comfident there are not that much users. You can say that again. In the organisation where I work, so far apart from me, none. And all I get questions on a) hey, what's that pic (gnus splash screen) b) why are you working on MSDOS screens (I have a white on black screen setup for Emacs) Methinks, Gnus followers must be in the low thousands which itself might be optimistic? :-) sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
spam in usenet groups; is there any setting in gnus to handle?
Some of the newsgroups that I follow seem to have been overrun with spam. Now, is there any settings in Gnus that can make those articles get killfiled or disappear? Is there a way to score it or make it completely disappear from my Summary buffer? I'd rather not set up the spam package unless I have to. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: When I customize a group, where is that metadata stored?
Wei Weng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tassilo Horn wrote: [...] I have seen often the quote box thing you have here in the few emacs related groups I read. How did you do it? You didn't do it manually, did you? :) Thanks Wei Of course he did. He spends hours getting it right! :) Actually, look for boxquote.el which gives that quote box. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to ignore Reply-To?
Teemu Likonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was set by a mailing list software. Well, the Gnus default is sane when you're in a mailing list group in that you typically reply to the list. That said, you could tinker with --8---cut here---start-8--- `broken-reply-to' Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To' headers in this group are to be ignored, and for the header to be hidden if `reply-to' is part of `gnus-boring-article-headers'. This can be useful if you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has inserted `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself. That is broken behavior. So there! --8---cut here---end---8--- in Group Parameters documentation in the manual. Since the modification you wanted is infrequent, it's best to simply edit the reply-to. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Maybe a solution for sending new messages to newsgroups
Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, refering to my postings - cannot send newly created messages to newsgroups - I probably found the solution: I should have created local messages (i) instead of opening a new mail (m), which I did. In the latter case outgoing messages are send over the internet using msmtp which addresses my ISP's server that doesn't know newsgroup's addresses. I got the tip from the manual - sorry for the thread. Hermann -- What does hitting 'a' do for you in the Group or Summary buffer? And you can see the message/news creation options in the Menubar--Post option. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Gmail IMAP to behave more like traditional IMAPs?
I have no idea where Gmail's IMAP support deviates from the standards. Just thought I'd post the link where it claims one can set it in such a way, that you can get the expected behaviour. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-in-labs-advanced-imap-controls.html --8---cut here---start-8--- ... There are also some more obscure options for those of you who want to make Gmail's IMAP work more like traditional IMAP providers: you can turn off auto-expunge or trash messages when they're no longer visible through IMAP. The IMAP protocol allows messages to be marked for deletion, a sort of limbo state where a message is still present in the folder but slated to be deleted the next time the folder is expunged. In our standard IMAP implementation, when you mark a message as deleted, Gmail doesn't let it linger in that state -- it deletes (or auto-expunges) it from the folder right away. If you want the two-stage delete process, after you've enabled this Lab, just select 'Do not automatically expunge messages' under the 'Forwarding and POP/IMAP' tab in Settings. --8---cut here---end---8--- For all those who have IMAP issues, this *might* help in fixing things? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Remove group name from subject
george_007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm reading an archived mailing list in gnus as news. Each article subject starts with [name-of-mailing-list]. Is it possible not to display this string in subjects? It clutters the threads view. Jiri Pejchal In my group parameters, I have this to suppress the standard subject text part for the mail folder for all my SAS received posts. ((total-expire . t) (gnus-list-identifiers SAS-L Digest -) (expiry-wait . 10)) gnus-list-identifiers is a variable defined in `gnus-sum.el'. Documentation: Regexp that matches list identifiers to be removed from subject. This can also be a list of regexps. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS
Phil Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sep 19, 2:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Actually, you might want to try a completely different option. I've been following instructions from on msmtp -- this is a lightweight SMTP client which looks to the outside world (specifically emacs!) like sendmail. I've managed to get it working with cygwin -- will be trying Ubuntu next, and it should work on mac, although I have no ability to test these. There's documentation on EmacsWiki about it; the config is a bit hairy at the moment, so I'll probably write a proper wrapper library for it at some point; smptmail-openssl.el can then be retired for the hack that it is. [...] er...if you meant this link http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusMSMTP I wrote some bits of it and others improved upon it. If there is anything which is not clear, do tell, I'll clean it up. FWIW, the last time I checked, msmtp worked on Windows+Emacs too without cygwin. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to change the font size
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am using Emacs 21.3.1 (Windows version). The default font size is too tiny to read. Every time I need to do OptionsMuleSet font/font, and change its size to 14. How to write a line to do so in my .emacs file? Also, I found the font is ugly. Is there any way to have a prettier font? Windows only. (set-default-font -outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-r-normal-normal-*-*-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1) or something similar should work. M-x display-fonts will show all installed fonts; paste the one you want between the quotes above. BTW, the Dejavu fonts can be installed from the sourceforge site. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Sending...failed with exit value 65
Cezar Halmagean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list, I've recently set up msmtp and it looks like it's working properly except for some cases (I don't really know which yet) I can successfully send mail to myself but I sometimes get this error message-send-mail-with-sendmail: Sending...failed with exit value 65 when replying to mail from other people. [...] The error code can be checked in the log file or here http://freebsd-man.page2go2.com/man3/sysexits_3.html and for your case EX_DATAERR (65) The input data was incorrect in some way. This should only be used for user's data and not system files. hmm...that doesn't seem to be too helpful. try to send the same mail from the command line like this create a file testmail.txt with a simple email body. --8---cut here---start-8--- Subject: Test test email --8---cut here---end---8--- From the command line, issue this msmtp --file=./msmtprc.txt ./testmail.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check what happens. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Scoring on Digest mails
I subscribe to some mailing lists in digest mode and I increased the score on some writers of the list on the from header after hitting C-d on the digest mail. Now all the digest mails have been scored up and are appearing in bold. I'd like to revert this; will deleting the relevant SCORE and .ADAPT be enough? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: xml-rpc / weblog backend with gnus?
Timo Geusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] That worked, except that titles are not appearing at all. Blogger does not seem to pick it up from the post Subject line or from the value set in weblogger-default-title. You're probably suffering from the same problem that I described in http://codeblog.bsdninjas.co.uk/index.php?/archives/59-Weblogger-Mode-finally-playing-with-Serendipity!.html If you look at the XML generated by weblogger-mode, it's likely to be missing the title tags because chances are that you've got problems getting the capabilities from Blogger. Thanks. From your blog it appears you got it to work with mt? Would the same work with blogger? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: xml-rpc / weblog backend with gnus?
DigitalPig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sivaram Neelakantan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Hmmm... Weblogger cannot directly find your xmlrpc interface. For Blogger, try this: url: http://www.blogger.com/api/RPC2 username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (should include @gmail.com) That worked, except that titles are not appearing at all. Blogger does not seem to pick it up from the post Subject line or from the value set in weblogger-default-title. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: xml-rpc / weblog backend with gnus?
DigitalPig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Try this: http://jwickers.wordpress.com/2007/09/20/webloggerel-enhanced/ I download weblogger.el here. I tested it for Wordpress Blog and it works OK including the title. [...] That's the one I've been using. And the title is not appearing whether I use html tags, set the defvar to something. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: msmtp and multiple smtp servers
Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sivaram Neelakantan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I tried the solution here: [...] OK, the problem is narrowed down. the account is correct. But its not matching the .msmtprc section. Instead it is dropping through to the default e.g , | account abc | user [EMAIL PROTECTED] | password abc123 | | account rgr | user [EMAIL PROTECTED] | password rgr123 | | account default : rgr ` in this case if the from is logged using message in the multi-smtp function then message correctly reports that account abc was selected into variable account. But the actual user password picked up for the smtp chat with the gmail servers is that of rgr above : the default account. I have latest msmtp 1.4.13. This then makes me think there is indeed a problem with (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments (list -a account)) But examining it tells me message-sendmail-extra-arguments's value is (-a abc) Is this correct? Has something changed here? So what else can I do to debug? I am dreading this being something so obvious with my config file. Does your posting style look similar to this? (setq gnus-parameters '((.*news\\.gmane\\.org.* (visible . t) (display . all) (posting-style (address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (name Sivaram Neelakantan) (eval (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments '(-a siva))) (user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED]))) (.*nnfolder:.* (posting-style (address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (name Ss) (body S) (eval (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments '(-a s))) (user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Obviously, the sendmail args go into effect only when I *enter* the specific folders. The second argument is the account names in the msmtprc file. 1. Set the posting styles match for 2 different folders and check the message-sendmail-extra-arguments value in each case (by entering the folder) to see whether it changes from one value to the other. If it doesn't, fix your posting styles, first. 2. Then send an email and check the logs and the sent mail folder on gmail to check which smtp account it used. The extra-args thingy goes into effect only when there is a match and that is achieved by entering a folder. sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Balanced windows in summary buffer?
In the summary buffer, if I wanted balanced windows as a default, how do it? This is of course when there is a mail/article open. M-x balance-windows does it, if I do it manually but can it be configured for the summary buffer? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing
आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing list, it should go from my email address (mailing list one), otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this possible using gnus-posting-styles ? [...] I have done something similar, please see http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusMSMTP Just replace the newsgroup match regex with something of your specific mail folder or user name matches. Did that help? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: how to get confirmation that mail was sent correctly
Guenter Wolpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I'm using GNUS 5.9.0 for reading news and (mainly) for my e-mail. The mail system uses a POP server that used to be a dial-up conenction, no its a DSL router. What I'm currently missing is a feature to a) cause an acknowledgement when the mail was read by the recipient Is this what you're looking for? In a mail buffer, in the header lines if you --8---cut here---start-8--- C-c M-n runs the command message-insert-disposition-notification-to which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `message.el'. It is bound to C-c M-n, menu-bar Field Request Receipt. (message-insert-disposition-notification-to) Request a disposition notification (return receipt) to this message. Note that this should not be used in newsgroups. --8---cut here---end---8--- b) trace the mail as it is transferred from server to server. Both features are available in usual mail programs and I guess, GNUS can do also. Please, can you explain this a little more? I was under the impression the mail one *receives* has the path traversal in the headers. One more thing: Receiving a lot of spam, including completely empty mails, I wonder, whether GNUS responds to the above mentioned (a) acknowledge feature and how I can control this. No idea here. [...] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Inserting message-insert-disposition-notification-to in Posting Styles
Adding (eval (message-insert-disposition-notification-to)) in .gnus to my Posting Styles mail folder setup, inserts the header in the body of the message instead of the headers. Ideally I'd like it to pick the reply-to address for it from the (address[EMAIL PROTECTED]) (name Sivaram Neelakantan) of the posting styles config in the .gnus setup. Is it possible? sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english