Re: New to GNUS troubles in figuring how to get rings rolling
Björn Bidar via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader (in English)" writes: > I have been working on having Emails working inside Emacs. > I've looked into a few solutions which seem to be the most used. > These were offline mail solutions such as mu4e, those that can fetch > mail themselves like gnus or wanderlust. I did research for what seems like years, off and on, before taking the plunge. It seemed to me there was a lot of out of date, old info out there in the Internet about Gnus. > My current setup is that I have multiple clients that all connect over > imap. I want always sync the status of a message back to imap. If you are using 'nnimap' back end, everything should 'just work'. > These are mostly imap related. > 1. How can I take the read status from imap into gnus and vice versa? > 2. I tried to use ~nnimap-use-namespaces~ however it doesn't work. >My mail server supports the extension however the folders aren't >split accordingly. I don't think you should need to do these contortions. I followed some basic config guidelines I found and everything 'just worked'. But I am by no means an expert, maybe someone else can address this point specifically. > 3. Can I make gnus design less archiaric? You can do whatever you want, it's Emacs after all. But will it be worth the effort? Personally, I try and grok the author's paradigm, before I go changing things. I took this approach to Emacs itself, and now Gnus. Having said that, there were a couple things that even I found so jarring, I had to modify right away. > 4. Can I make imap folders appear as groups by subfolder? E.g. >if I have INBOX.Bar.Foo -> Bar will be a group. Again I suggest to perhaps try to 'go with the flow' of what Gnus provides, rather than fight against it. Having said that, maybe 'Group Topics' section of manual may provide what you are looking for? > All in all it wasn't as bad as other said around the internet however > the manual isn't as easy to digest: things are hard to find or out of > date/not relevant to modern usage, this makes the manual harder to > navigate. I started keeping a 'cheat sheet' of commonly used keybindings and other notes and I don't think I could get on without it. There are simply too many keybindings and commands. I am still learning my way around, but she's a hairy beast, as you say. I don't think there is anything else out there that gives the power to handle and organize email and news quite like Gnus though. Which is why I keep putting in the effort to learn as much as I can about this strange, arcane beast. Cheers, TRS-80
Re: Searching mailing list archives
Byung-Hee HWANG writes: > TRS-80 writes: > >> Hello, >> >> Some times I find a need to search mailing list archives, ... >> (...thanks...) > > Here official archive at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/ I find searching Mailman (Mhonarc?) archives less than optimal some times (cannot follow threads across month boundaries for instance). But of course that is one way. And thanks! :) > > Plus Gnus related things: > - https://inbox.vuxu.org/info-gnus-english/ > - https://inbox.vuxu.org/ding/ I wanted to thank you for sharing these solid gold nuggets! :) In fact, Gnus things are what I am interested in the most at this moment. So I have been searching through those a lot these last few weeks! Offtopic, this is like my third attempt at getting off the ground with Gnus, but I think, with this help, I am finally getting airborne! So, thank you /so very much/ Byung-Hee, this was exactly what I was looking for! I think the general problem still stands, but it looks like I was right insofar as this being non-trivial problem. So I guess I will continue to compile notes and resources in one of my Org files about this over time, and hopefully come up with some better solution(s) eventually. Cheers, TRS-80
Re: Retrieve thread URL from Gnus
Adam Sjøgren writes: > If you need a web-URL your best bet is the mailing list archives on > lists.sourceforge.net. In this case, I would agree, as (looking at the email) those are the official project resources. Which I would think should make a more stable archival URL to link to. Probably whatever the official project archives are, generally, I would say should be your best bet. For other cases (and future reference), I learned recently there are actually several websites where you can search/link to URLs by Message-ID, listed on that Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message-ID Then there are also some public-inbox instances around, I know of at least one private one with pretty good coverage of a few lists I care about (including this one). And Org Mode have an official one (maybe some other projects, too). Cheers, TRS-80
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Searching mailing list archives
Hello, Some times I find a need to search mailing list archives, as often I can find the solution to my problem -- or, find some already existing discussion on the topic -- without even needing to post.[0] However, unless I am really missing something, this seems to me to have become non-trivial nowadays. 1. I started using Gnus and Gmane over NNTP, which I thought surely would be a panacea! However, apparently the search functionality depends on some URL which is no longer available (I gather since the web part of the archive is no longer up). I numbered this '1.' because it would have been (and still is) by far my first choice. So then, over the course of the last several months, I have come up with several alternatives, which variously have their downsides: 2. Setting up a local Leafnode[1] instance. Although I would rather not have to learn to administer yet another piece of software (unless absolutely necessary). 3. Downloading mbox from archives[2] -> convert to Maildir -> Index and search with notmuch (or similar workflow). Again, a lot of extra work. And then I need to keep importing new mbox file(s), and processing them, etc... 4. Doing some direct querying of NOV headers or something; perhaps from telnet, or some existing NNTP library. Also seems a bit janky to me (and then I should build some local index probably while I am at it). Anyway, another project to add to my list of hundreds of others I will never get to... 5. Doing web based search, on some archive site. Some projects have dedicated sites, and there is still at least one big online web based archive remaining. However usually the search is poor, and I have to use the browser (leave Emacs), etc. Apologies if I am coming across a bit frustrated, as I most certainly am. Maybe I should have sent mail to the list sooner. Anyway, what would be great would be if I have overlooked something, if there was some easy way to do this. However I included all of the above, in case that turns out not to be the case (and also to demonstrate I have been thinking about this for some time). Any pointers whatsoever would be greatly appreciated at this point! Cheers, TRS-80 N.B.: I sent this to both info-gnus-english and help-gnu-emacs, setting Followup-To the latter, as that's the higher traffic list. As the question is, strictly speaking, not directly related to either, yet tangentially related to both (more or less). I hope people don't mind too much. [0] There are many other cases as well; checking for existing bug before reporting, checking temperature before implementing some feature, etc... [1] Leafnode is (apparently) a local caching (store and forward) NNTP server. [2] GNU provide these, not sure who else though.
