Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: Is there a workaround for Hiding the thread moved us backwards, aborting! bug in GNUS v5.13, or do I have to wait for an upgrade now? I'm pretty sure this has been fixed for Emacs 24.3. At least I remember working on it, so I assume that it's fixed. :-) Let's see... Oops. Nope, this bug still hasn't been fixed. But there's a pretty good case how to reproduce it now: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11404 -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
Is there a workaround for Hiding the thread moved us backwards, aborting! bug in GNUS v5.13, or do I have to wait for an upgrade now? Driving me nuts. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On 2012-08-28, Andy Moreton wrote: That's why I look (and still look!!) for way to prevent hiding groups with zero unread articles. Try this: (setq gnus-permanently-visible-groups .*) and if you use topics: (setq gnus-topic-display-empty-topics t) Last close my issue! Thanks for help. My previous code to defadvice 'gnus-group-list-groups' no longer needed. -- Best regards! ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On Fri 24 Aug 2012, Oleksandr Gavenko wrote: On 2012-08-14, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. Thanks for explaining of your workflow. I try it but seems that I need to use ido completion or something similar as default completion require entering many symbols and TAB pressing, for this: nntp+news.gmane.org-ephemeral:gmane.emacs.gnus.user nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.comp.window-managers.fvwm nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.help TAB : TAB e TAB RET As I avoid using IDO-mode until have time to learn it dipper I still use such approach: C-s KEYWORD and C-s C-s ... as many time until find looked group in *Groups* buffer. That's why I look (and still look!!) for way to prevent hiding groups with zero unread articles. Try this: (setq gnus-permanently-visible-groups .*) and if you use topics: (setq gnus-topic-display-empty-topics t) HTH AndyM ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On 2012-08-14, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. Thanks for explaining of your workflow. I try it but seems that I need to use ido completion or something similar as default completion require entering many symbols and TAB pressing, for this: nntp+news.gmane.org-ephemeral:gmane.emacs.gnus.user nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.comp.window-managers.fvwm nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.help TAB : TAB e TAB RET As I avoid using IDO-mode until have time to learn it dipper I still use such approach: C-s KEYWORD and C-s C-s ... as many time until find looked group in *Groups* buffer. That's why I look (and still look!!) for way to prevent hiding groups with zero unread articles. Also thank to any mentioned about C-u a, today I search for separate function for this purpose but it was build-in for: gnus-group-post-news (a)!! -- Best regards! ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On 2012-08-14, Adam Sjøgren wrote: But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... Does L do what you want? In some way yes, but this command (gnus-group-list-all-groups) also shown unsubscribed and killed groups. But for my purpose it is not a harm. My redefinition: (define-key gnus-group-mode-map (kbd l) (lambda nil (interactive) (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed t))) more suitable for my purpose but as I wrote recently about my workflow to find group for reading or posting: C-s KEYWORD and C-s C-s ... as many time until find looked group and then RET in *Groups* buffer. When some groups hidden due to: But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages I can't post to this groups with my workflow. So I look for way to preserve all groups in *Groups* buffer discarding read or unread it. I think that defadvice around gnus-group-list-groups will give me desired behaviour. I am not expert of defadvice style of elisp programming but this code seems work as I want (I use it for half day only...): (eval-after-load 'gnus-group '(progn (defadvice gnus-group-list-groups (before with-read-groups (optional level unread lowest)) (unless level (ad-set-arg 0 gnus-level-subscribed)) (ad-set-arg 1 t) ) (ad-activate 'gnus-group-list-groups) )) My previous code: (define-key gnus-group-mode-map (kbd l) (lambda nil (interactive) (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed t))) no longer necessary. -- Best regards! ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: On Tue, Aug 14 2012, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. Is it possible to make that use ido type completion? But of course! (setq gnus-completing-read-function 'gnus-ido-completing-read) I have problems with this, largely because nnmairix (for reasons I will never understand) creates dummy copies of all your groups. So when you hit 'j' you're suddenly confronted by a sea of nonexistent groups that get in the way of where you want to go. Someone in this group, I believe, once provided me with this: (defadvice gnus-group-completing-read (before remove-nnmairix-groups activate) (unless collection (mapatoms (lambda (g) (unless (string-match \\(nnml\\|archive\\) (symbol-name g)) (push g collection))) gnus-active-hashtb))) Unfortunately this also filters out all my nnml+archive groups, even though it looks like it shouldn't. Probably I could fix it myself without too much work, but I haven't bothered… Anyway, hope that helps. Sure does, thanks :-) I guess I'll be jumping to relatively unique names till I figure out that nnmairix thing … -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
Oleksandr Gavenko gaven...@gmail.com writes: If I want to post to some group I firstly enter to it and press 'a' in *Summary* buffer. You can C-u a on that group, without entering it. Why? Just because I simple don't remember full group names. Only some part of names which I look by C-s in *Group* buffer until not find desired group... But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... After reading C-h m I found command to show it back by: A u but it show all groups (killed, etc) So I read this file lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el and make such solution: (eval-after-load 'gnus-group '(progn (define-key gnus-group-mode-map (kbd l) (lambda nil (interactive) (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed t))) )) Default key binding l make same but invoke: (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed nil) -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591 ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
If I want to post to some group I firstly enter to it and press 'a' in *Summary* buffer. Why? Just because I simple don't remember full group names. Only some part of names which I look by C-s in *Group* buffer until not find desired group... But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... After reading C-h m I found command to show it back by: A u but it show all groups (killed, etc) So I read this file lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el and make such solution: (eval-after-load 'gnus-group '(progn (define-key gnus-group-mode-map (kbd l) (lambda nil (interactive) (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed t))) )) Default key binding l make same but invoke: (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed nil) -- Best regards! ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On 2012-08-14, Oleksandr Gavenko wrote: If I want to post to some group I firstly enter to it and press 'a' in *Summary* buffer. Why? Just because I simple don't remember full group names. Only some part of names which I look by C-s in *Group* buffer until not find desired group... But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... After reading C-h m I found command to show it back by: A u but it show all groups (killed, etc) So I read this file lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el and make such solution: (eval-after-load 'gnus-group '(progn (define-key gnus-group-mode-map (kbd l) (lambda nil (interactive) (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed t))) )) Default key binding l make same but invoke: (gnus-group-list-groups gnus-level-subscribed nil) I forget complete my message... Having such switch is sweet but I want to make (gnus-level-subscribed t) settings permanent for *Groups* buffer... This internal variable gnus-group-list-mode used to store such settings bat if I set it manually they are overridden by GNUS... Please help! -- Best regards! ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:17:33 +0300, Oleksandr wrote: But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... Does L do what you want? , | L runs the command gnus-group-list-all-groups, which is an interactive | compiled Lisp function in `gnus-group.el'. | | It is bound to L, A u, menu-bar Groups Listing List | (un)subscribed groups. | | (gnus-group-list-all-groups optional ARG) | | List all newsgroups with level ARG or lower. | Default is `gnus-level-unsubscribed', which lists all subscribed and most | unsubscribed groups. ` I usually use L and l to toggle between seeing all groups and only the ones with unread articles. Best regards, Adam -- You know, if the sun was an oboe, what would you do? Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On Tue, Aug 14 2012, Adam Sjøgren wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:17:33 +0300, Oleksandr wrote: But GNUS hide groups from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages... Does L do what you want? , | L runs the command gnus-group-list-all-groups, which is an interactive | compiled Lisp function in `gnus-group.el'. | | It is bound to L, A u, menu-bar Groups Listing List | (un)subscribed groups. | | (gnus-group-list-all-groups optional ARG) | | List all newsgroups with level ARG or lower. | Default is `gnus-level-unsubscribed', which lists all subscribed and most | unsubscribed groups. ` I usually use L and l to toggle between seeing all groups and only the ones with unread articles. Best regards, Adam And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. -- GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) of 2012-08-06 on pellet Ma Gnus v0.6 ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. Is it possible to make that use ido type completion? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: GNUS hide group from *Group* buffer when there no unread messages...
On Tue, Aug 14 2012, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: And 'j' for `gnus-group-jump-to-group' will find any group, visible or not! This is my main method for *Group* buffer navigation, and for your exact use-case: 'j' to find a group, then 'C-u a' to compose a message to it. Is it possible to make that use ido type completion? But of course! (setq gnus-completing-read-function 'gnus-ido-completing-read) I have problems with this, largely because nnmairix (for reasons I will never understand) creates dummy copies of all your groups. So when you hit 'j' you're suddenly confronted by a sea of nonexistent groups that get in the way of where you want to go. Someone in this group, I believe, once provided me with this: --8---cut here---start-8--- (defadvice gnus-group-completing-read (before remove-nnmairix-groups activate) (unless collection (mapatoms (lambda (g) (unless (string-match \\(nnml\\|archive\\) (symbol-name g)) (push g collection))) gnus-active-hashtb))) --8---cut here---end---8--- Unfortunately this also filters out all my nnml+archive groups, even though it looks like it shouldn't. Probably I could fix it myself without too much work, but I haven't bothered… Anyway, hope that helps. E -- GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) of 2012-08-06 on pellet Ma Gnus v0.6 ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
