Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:39:06 +0200 "Loris Bennett" > wrote: > > ... > LB> I have now discovered that this in fact works, but only if I don't save > LB> the credentials in .authinfo. If I enter both sets of credentials every > LB> time, Gnus shows me folders from both accounts. > ... > LB> So to me it looks like there is a problem when .authinfo is read, but > LB> obviously some people have this kind of setup working with two Gmail > LB> accounts. So I'm stumped. > > Set `auth-source-debug' to 'trivia and show the relevant lines from the > *Messages* buffer when you get the bad behavior. Thanks for this advice. However "unfortunately" the problem has disappeared after restarting emacs a few times. Nevertheless it will be handy for the next problem, but I'll start a new thread for that. Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:39:06 +0200 "Loris Bennett" wrote: ... LB> I have now discovered that this in fact works, but only if I don't save LB> the credentials in .authinfo. If I enter both sets of credentials every LB> time, Gnus shows me folders from both accounts. ... LB> So to me it looks like there is a problem when .authinfo is read, but LB> obviously some people have this kind of setup working with two Gmail LB> accounts. So I'm stumped. Set `auth-source-debug' to 'trivia and show the relevant lines from the *Messages* buffer when you get the bad behavior. Thanks Ted ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:07:36 +0200 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: AS> Ted writes: >> (info "(auth) Multiple GMail accounts with Gnus") AS> I can't find that info-page in my Emacs. Maybe it is too old? (GNU Emacs AS> 24.5.1) That's weird, it's been part of Emacs for a while and I can definitely access it. Ted ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Loris writes: > '(gnus-secondary-select-methods >(quote > ((nnimap "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de" What happens if you change the name of this server to something that is not exactly the same as the hostname? What does your .authinfo.gpg look like? (Remember to remove passwords.) > (nnimap-stream tls) > (nnir-search-engine imap) > (remove-prefix "nnimap") > (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de")) > (nnimap "fu_exchange" > (nnimap-stream tls) > (nnir-search-engine imap) > (remove-prefix "nnimap") > (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de")) > (nntp "news.fu-berlin.de" >(remove-prefix nntp) Maybe the .authinfo guessing-logic is "too smart"; that's the only thing I can think of. Best regards, Adam -- "Jeg har det bedst med en sort hætte over hovedet og Adam Sjøgren en dukke." a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > Loris writes: > >> I still have the problem that I can only access one of the accounts. >> The same set of folders appear twice, once each for the secondary >> select method entries "one" and "two". > > Show your configuration. > > Otherwise we can be guessing forever. > OK: '(gnus-secondary-select-methods (quote ((nnimap "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de" (nnimap-stream tls) (nnir-search-engine imap) (remove-prefix "nnimap") (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de")) (nnimap "fu_exchange" (nnimap-stream tls) (nnir-search-engine imap) (remove-prefix "nnimap") (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de")) (nntp "news.fu-berlin.de" (remove-prefix nntp) I have now discovered that this in fact works, but only if I don't save the credentials in .authinfo. If I enter both sets of credentials every time, Gnus shows me folders from both accounts. If I do allow Gnus to add an entry for "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de", then I don't get asked about the credentials for the entry "fu_exchange", Gnus shows me the folders from the "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de" account but not those for "fu_exchange". I also can't subscribe to any folders from "fu_exchange". So to me it looks like there is a problem when .authinfo is read, but obviously some people have this kind of setup working with two Gmail accounts. So I'm stumped. Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Loris writes: > I still have the problem that I can only access one of the accounts. > The same set of folders appear twice, once each for the secondary > select method entries "one" and "two". Show your configuration. Otherwise we can be guessing forever. Best regards, Adam -- "Accept failure gracefully." Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > Ted writes: > >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:17:25 +0200 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: > >> AS> So you could have something like: >> ... > >> :) This is basically what I wrote in >> (info "(auth) Multiple GMail accounts with Gnus") > > I can't find that info-page in my Emacs. Maybe it is too old? (GNU Emacs > 24.5.1) I'm on 24.4.1, where the page probably exists even less. However, even if it did exist, wouldn't it be better to call it "Multiple accounts on the same server with Gnus" if it doesn't just apply to Gmail? >> Do you think that page should be expanded? Or maybe linked from the Gnus >> docs? It seems to keep tripping people up. > > Who reads the documentation? > > I think the only way to avoid these questions is to change every example > and every tutorial to _not_ use the hostname of the mail server as the > name of the server in Gnus. > > I don't think it is realistic to do that. Anyway, we need something to > talk about here as well :-) Yeah, that ole internet thing sure does need fixin'. But before I do that, I still have the problem that I can only access one of the accounts. The same set of folders appear twice, once each for the secondary select method entries "one" and "two". I can get the folders of either account, but Which folders I get seems to depend on the order of the entries in the .authfile. So it look as if, once the connection to the server is made, the connection for the second account is skipped, because Gnus has already seen the server. Is that a possible explanation? Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Ted writes: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:17:25 +0200 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: > AS> So you could have something like: > ... > :) This is basically what I wrote in > (info "(auth) Multiple GMail accounts with Gnus") I can't find that info-page in my Emacs. Maybe it is too old? (GNU Emacs 24.5.1) > Do you think that page should be expanded? Or maybe linked from the Gnus > docs? It seems to keep tripping people up. Who reads the documentation? I think the only way to avoid these questions is to change every example and every tutorial to _not_ use the hostname of the mail server as the name of the server in Gnus. I don't think it is realistic to do that. Anyway, we need something to talk about here as well :-) Best regards, Adam -- "The key to making programs fast is to make them do Adam Sjøgren practically nothing. ;-)" a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:17:25 +0200 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: AS> There is, but the way people demonstrate mail configuration often AS> obscures this. AS> The point is that that the string after "machine" does NOT have to be AS> the hostname of the server. It can be anything, as long as it matches AS> your configuration of the nnimap server in Gnus. AS> So you could have something like: ... :) This is basically what I wrote in (info "(auth) Multiple GMail accounts with Gnus") Do you think that page should be expanded? Or maybe linked from the Gnus docs? It seems to keep tripping people up. Ted ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > "Loris Bennett" writes: > >> Hi, >> >> Many years ago I set Gnus up to read mail from a server via IMAP and >> every thing has been working fine. I now want to add a second account >> on the same server[1]. >> >> I have added a corresponding line to .authinfo, but there doesn't seem >> to be a variable I could add to the select method to indicate which >> account should be used. >> >> Currently I just don't see any extra folders from the second account and >> they do not appear when I try to subscribe to additional folder. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Loris >> >> Footnotes: >> [1] To be honest, the accounts are not on the same server. However, >> the server address is the same in both cases. Behind the scenes some >> jiggery-pokery goes on to forward mail to a second server in the case of >> the second account. > > You didn't mention adding the second server to > `gnus-secondary-select-methods' -- that's the key step. Have you done > that? Gnus won't know about the server until you put it there, and once > it does know, it can handle the ~/.authinfo step by itself. Sorry, I wasn't explicit enough. I did realise that I needed another entry in 'gnus-secondary-select-methods', but I just couldn't see how to differentiate if from the existing one, given that I was using the server address as the name of the entry, and this is the same for both accounts. Thus, Adam pointing out that the "Address" for the select method can be any string, not just the server address, was very helpful. Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under construction. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
Loris writes: > I have added a corresponding line to .authinfo, but there doesn't seem > to be a variable I could add to the select method to indicate which > account should be used. There is, but the way people demonstrate mail configuration often obscures this. The point is that that the string after "machine" does NOT have to be the hostname of the server. It can be anything, as long as it matches your configuration of the nnimap server in Gnus. So you could have something like: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '( (nnimap "one" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")) (nnimap "other" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com" in your .gnus, and in .authinfo you would match those up with: machine one login someth...@gmail.com password "verysecret" port imap machine other login somethinge...@gmail.com password "alsosecret" port imap Hope this helps. Best regards, Adam -- "The Web is not high school."Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: IMAP - two accounts on one server
"Loris Bennett" writes: > Hi, > > Many years ago I set Gnus up to read mail from a server via IMAP and > every thing has been working fine. I now want to add a second account > on the same server[1]. > > I have added a corresponding line to .authinfo, but there doesn't seem > to be a variable I could add to the select method to indicate which > account should be used. > > Currently I just don't see any extra folders from the second account and > they do not appear when I try to subscribe to additional folder. > > Any ideas? > > Cheers, > > Loris > > Footnotes: > [1] To be honest, the accounts are not on the same server. However, > the server address is the same in both cases. Behind the scenes some > jiggery-pokery goes on to forward mail to a second server in the case of > the second account. You didn't mention adding the second server to `gnus-secondary-select-methods' -- that's the key step. Have you done that? Gnus won't know about the server until you put it there, and once it does know, it can handle the ~/.authinfo step by itself. E ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
IMAP - two accounts on one server
Hi, Many years ago I set Gnus up to read mail from a server via IMAP and every thing has been working fine. I now want to add a second account on the same server[1]. I have added a corresponding line to .authinfo, but there doesn't seem to be a variable I could add to the select method to indicate which account should be used. Currently I just don't see any extra folders from the second account and they do not appear when I try to subscribe to additional folder. Any ideas? Cheers, Loris Footnotes: [1] To be honest, the accounts are not on the same server. However, the server address is the same in both cases. Behind the scenes some jiggery-pokery goes on to forward mail to a second server in the case of the second account. -- This signature is currently under construction. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
