Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-07 Thread Reiner Steib
On Wed, May 05 2010, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

> In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address in
> the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this also
> possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original sender and
> not to the mailing list.

See broken-reply-to in the manual:

,[ (info "(gnus)Group Parameters") ]
| `broken-reply-to'
|  Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
|  headers in this group are to be ignored, and for the header to be
|  hidden if `reply-to' is part of `gnus-boring-article-headers'.
|  This can be useful if you're reading a mailing list group where
|  the listserv has inserted `Reply-To' headers that point back to
|  the listserv itself.  That is broken behavior.  So there!
`

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread Bastien
Gijs Hillenius  writes:

>> Not shorter, but cleaner ;)
>
> Very nice! These moves are Gnus-specific, yes? 

Yes.  Type C-c C-f C-h to get a full list of useful keybindings:

,
| C-c C-f C-a   message-generate-unsubscribed-mail-followup-to
| C-c C-f C-b   message-goto-bcc
| C-c C-f C-c   message-goto-cc
| C-c C-f C-d   message-goto-distribution
| C-c C-f C-e   message-insert-expires
| C-c C-f C-f   message-goto-followup-to
| C-c C-f TAB   message-insert-or-toggle-importance
| C-c C-f C-k   message-goto-keywords
| C-c C-f RET   message-goto-mail-followup-to
| C-c C-f C-n   message-goto-newsgroups
| C-c C-f C-o   message-goto-from
| C-c C-f C-r   message-goto-reply-to
| C-c C-f C-s   message-goto-subject
| C-c C-f C-t   message-goto-to
| C-c C-f C-u   message-goto-summary
| C-c C-f C-w   message-goto-fcc
| C-c C-f a message-add-archive-header
| C-c C-f s message-change-subject
| C-c C-f t message-reduce-to-to-cc
| C-c C-f w message-insert-wide-reply
| C-c C-f x message-cross-post-followup-to
`

I use C-c C-f C-s and C-c C-f C-c quite often.

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread Gijs Hillenius
On  6 May 2010, Bastien wrote:

> Gijs Hillenius  writes:
>
>> M-<, M-f, M-f, M-b, C-k, and you're good to go :-)
>
> C-c C-f C-t C-a C-k
>
> Not shorter, but cleaner ;)

Very nice! These moves are Gnus-specific, yes? 


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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread Cecil Westerhof
David Kastrup  writes:

>> In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address
>> in the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this
>> also possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original
>> sender and not to the mailing list.
>
> S B r (without quoting of original) S B R (with quoting).
>
> which are the keybindings for
>
> gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to and
> gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to-with-original

Thanks very much. I thought it should be possible.

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Cecil Westerhof  writes:

> In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address
> in the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this
> also possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original
> sender and not to the mailing list.

S B r (without quoting of original) S B R (with quoting).

which are the keybindings for

gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to and
gnus-summary-reply-broken-reply-to-with-original

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-06 Thread Bastien
Gijs Hillenius  writes:

> M-<, M-f, M-f, M-b, C-k, and you're good to go :-)

C-c C-f C-t C-a C-k

Not shorter, but cleaner ;)

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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-05 Thread Gijs Hillenius
On  5 May 2010, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

> In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address in
> the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this also
> possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original sender and
> not to the mailing list.

Yeah, of course this is possible. You enter that To-address, replacing
the one that was taken from the reply-to, that you don't want to use.

or

M-<, M-f, M-f, M-b, C-k, and you're good to go :-)

I have a hunch you want to automate this, but, can Gnus read your mind?
I'd like that ...


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Re: Ignore reply-to

2010-05-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Gijs Hillenius  writes:

>> In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address in
>> the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this also
>> possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original sender and
>> not to the mailing list.
>
> Yeah, of course this is possible. You enter that To-address, replacing
> the one that was taken from the reply-to, that you don't want to use.
>
> or
>
> M-<, M-f, M-f, M-b, C-k, and you're good to go :-)
>
> I have a hunch you want to automate this, but, can Gnus read your mind?
> I'd like that ...

No, but just like in for example Mutt it could reserve a key combination
for it. It looks like there is nothing for it, so maybe I should write
something.

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Ignore reply-to

2010-05-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
In some e-mail clients it is possible to send a reply to the address in
the From field, even when the Reply-to field is filled. Is this also
possible in Gnus? Sometimes you want to reply to the original sender and
not to the mailing list.

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LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2009-02-03 Thread Teemu Likonen
On 2008-10-19 00:54 (+0300), Teemu Likonen wrote:

> In some mailing lists it's a convention that messages are posted always
> to the list only (not "wide reply"). In such situations the list
> software usually adds automatic "Reply-To: ". For me it's fine,
> and I don't want to set broken-reply-to because then I'd always need to
> use wide reply first and then remove all recipients except the mailing
> list address. It would be too much manual work in nearly always editing
> recipients. (Unless there's another reply command which replies to the
> list address only.)
>
> So, it seems that it's generally easier to not set broken-reply-to and
> just honor the Reply-To set by the mailing software. In those rare
> situations when I need to reply privately outside the list I can just
> copy and paste necessary addresses.
>
> Basically I'd like to have three different reply buttons:
>
>   1. Reply to author only (with confirmation whether or not to honor the
>  possible Reply-To).
>   2. Reply to all people. The original author's address (or at user
>  option, the Reply-To field) goes to "To" field and other recipients
>  to "Cc" field.
>   3. Reply to mailing list address only (the MUA needs to know what the
>  address is so it must be configured).
>
> It would be nice to have these three options always available. I used
> Mutt previously and found those options handy.

This is old thread but I'll reply because I just found an answer. Even
though this might be obvious to many of you I'll post my summary here in
this same thread.

So Gnus already has this functionality that I was asking for. :-)

If a mailing list has Reply-To pointing to the list, configure group
parameters like this:

(broken-reply-to . t)
(to-address . "l...@address")

Now in summary buffer command "F" will reply just to the mailing list
(l...@address), "R" will reply to the original author only and "S W"
will reply to all ("To" original author and "Cc" to list and possibly
other people).

It took a while to figure that out. :-)
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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-11-10 Thread 0000 vk
>
> OK, thanks. Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to
> reply privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
> person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide and
> very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.


(setq message-mail-alias-type'ecomplete) might be helpful then.

-vk
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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Teemu Likonen writes:
> Basically I'd like to have three different reply buttons:

>  1. Reply to author only (with confirmation whether or not to honor the
> possible Reply-To).
>  2. Reply to all people. The original author's address (or at user
> option, the Reply-To field) goes to "To" field and other recipients
> to "Cc" field.
>  3. Reply to mailing list address only (the MUA needs to know what the
> address is so it must be configured).

> It would be nice to have these three options always available.

Yes, it would.
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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
Reiner Steib [2008-10-18 22:35 +0200]:

> On Sat, Oct 18 2008, Teemu Likonen wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to reply
>> privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
>> person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide
>> and very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.
>
> Did you really try to set `broken-reply-to'?  When I use r/R on a
> message in the group gmane.comp.tex.german, where I have set
> (broken-reply-to . t) in `gnus-parameters', the article goes to the
> address in the To field and the list address (from Reply-To) is
> ignored.

Yes I did, and thanks Sivaram for the tip. It can be useful but it's not
quite optimal for me.

In some mailing lists it's a convention that messages are posted always
to the list only (not "wide reply"). In such situations the list
software usually adds automatic "Reply-To: ". For me it's fine,
and I don't want to set broken-reply-to because then I'd always need to
use wide reply first and then remove all recipients except the mailing
list address. It would be too much manual work in nearly always editing
recipients. (Unless there's another reply command which replies to the
list address only.)

So, it seems that it's generally easier to not set broken-reply-to and
just honor the Reply-To set by the mailing software. In those rare
situations when I need to reply privately outside the list I can just
copy and paste necessary addresses.

Basically I'd like to have three different reply buttons:

  1. Reply to author only (with confirmation whether or not to honor the
 possible Reply-To).
  2. Reply to all people. The original author's address (or at user
 option, the Reply-To field) goes to "To" field and other recipients
 to "Cc" field.
  3. Reply to mailing list address only (the MUA needs to know what the
 address is so it must be configured).

It would be nice to have these three options always available. I used
Mutt previously and found those options handy.


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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Reiner Steib
On Sat, Oct 18 2008, Teemu Likonen wrote:

> Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to reply
> privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
> person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide
> and very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.

Did you really try to set `broken-reply-to'?  When I use r/R on a
message in the group gmane.comp.tex.german, where I have set
(broken-reply-to . t) in `gnus-parameters', the article goes to the
address in the To field and the list address (from Reply-To) is
ignored.

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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
Sivaram Neelakantan [2008-10-18 22:17 +0530]:

> Well, the Gnus default is sane when you're in a mailing list group in
> that you typically reply to the list. That said, you could tinker with

> `broken-reply-to'

> Since the modification you wanted is infrequent, it's best to simply
> edit the reply-to.

OK, thanks. Well, I guess this means that if I occasionally want to
reply privately to somebody on a mailing list I need to copy and paste
person's address to "To" field. All the reply options (normal, wide and
very wide) just reply to the list address and nobody else.


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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan
Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
> to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
> set by a mailing list software.

Well, the Gnus default is sane when you're in a mailing list group in
that you typically reply to the list.  That said, you could tinker
with

--8<---cut here---start->8---
`broken-reply-to'
 Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To'
 headers in this group are to be ignored, and for the header to be
 hidden if `reply-to' is part of `gnus-boring-article-headers'.
 This can be useful if you're reading a mailing list group where
 the listserv has inserted `Reply-To' headers that point back to
 the listserv itself.  That is broken behavior.  So there!
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

in Group Parameters documentation in the manual.

Since the modification you wanted is infrequent, it's best to simply
edit the reply-to.

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Re: How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
> to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
> set by a mailing list software.

This is emacs, an editor!  
Just edit out whatever header you want to edit out.

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How to ignore "Reply-To"?

2008-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
How can I ignore Reply-To header when replying or (very-)wide-replying
to a mail? Sometimes there's a need to overrule the Reply-To that was
set by a mailing list software.


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