Re: can gnus support fake mail address?

2006-09-04 Thread renaudr
Dear gnus gurus,

 for an example:
 ...
 (setq user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials
 '((smtp.163.com   25USERNAME   PASSWORD)))
 (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server smtp.163.com)
 (setq smtpmail-smtp-server smtp.163.com)
 (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
 ...

I have a little library that I use for my private use which helps automating
the smtp servers you contact. It helps setting different fields (ms-id, smtp
envelope ...) in a coherent way and you can use several smtp servers.

I can make it available if there is a need.


Renaud
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Re: can gnus support fake mail address?

2006-09-01 Thread David Hansen
On 31 Aug 2006 22:28:15 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in this case, i use a fake mail address (setq user-mail-address
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) , and now it fails on sending mail when smtp server
 authenticate it.

It's most probably the SMPT server which rejects your Mail.

 on the other hand, if i use my true address, i worry
 about when i use newsgroup, i will get many spams.
 anyone can provide a good way?

Use a SPAM filter like everyone else is doing.  Otherwise
ppl can't reply to your postings via Mail.

David



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Re: can gnus support fake mail address?

2006-09-01 Thread winsphinx

David Hansen 写道:

 Use a SPAM filter like everyone else is doing.  Otherwise
 ppl can't reply to your postings via Mail.

where can i get a good spam filter for gnus?

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Re: can gnus support fake mail address?

2006-09-01 Thread David Hansen
On 1 Sep 2006 01:19:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Hansen 写道:

 Use a SPAM filter like everyone else is doing.  Otherwise
 ppl can't reply to your postings via Mail.

 where can i get a good spam filter for gnus?

I don't use gnus Spam filtering.  I must admit that I just
don't understand it.

On my setup I use Spamassasin and procmail to sort out
probable Spam to a different mbox and send the worst crap
directly to /dev/null.

I don't know about the stable gnus release but the version
from CVS claims to support external spam filters (at least
Spamassasin and bogofilter) and comes with a built in spam
filter as well.  But it's terrible complicated (or I'm just
to stupid to understand it).

David



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Re: can gnus support fake mail address?

2006-09-01 Thread David Z Maze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 David Hansen :

 Use a SPAM filter like everyone else is doing.  Otherwise
 ppl can't reply to your postings via Mail.

 where can i get a good spam filter for gnus?

Current versions of Gnus include spam.el, which is a generic framework
for supporting all sorts of external spam filtering systems.  I use it
with spam-stat.el which is a strictly Emacs-based Bayesian filter
which actually seems to do a very good job for me.  The definitive
source of information is almost certainly the (gnus)Spam Package info
page, which appears to be fairly detailed and includes a sample
config, a listing of supported spam back ends, and a description of
spam-stat.el.

(My one complaint with spam-stat.el is that it's pretty slow; if a
typical morning Gnus startup has 700 spam and 100 ham messages, then
running all that elisp on every message does slow things down quite a
bit.  But if I'm willing to go do something else while Gnus starts up
then it fills the doesn't require support outside Emacs niche pretty
well.)

I don't know what filtering your ISP does; MIT has gone through a
couple of systems that put spam-related statistics in headers, so you
could also just filter your mail away based on that.

Finally, I wouldn't be terribly concerned about Them getting your
email from Usenet as opposed to Them mailbombing your ISP/private
domain and noticing that there's some address that doesn't bounce.
IMHO it's much friendlier to the other (human!) newsgroup users to put
a real address on your posts if you're going to get spammed either
way.

  --dzm
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