Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy). Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems with 'gnus-load', ...). Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu? I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right". Thanks for any ideas! -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
Kenneth: Try running with "emacs --debug-init" and the check the *messages* buffer. This should give you a better Idea as to whats going wrong. Mike ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
On 2008-06-29 00:20 +0200, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy). > > Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems > with 'gnus-load', ...). The Gnus in Ubuntu is not byte-compiled for the emacs22 package, so Emacs will use the one that comes with Emacs which may lack some feature that you want in your .gnus.el. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/133621. > Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu? > > I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what > I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right". Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/227925). See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version. Sven ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2008-06-29 00:20 +0200, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > >> I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy). >> >> Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems >> with 'gnus-load', ...). > > The Gnus in Ubuntu is not byte-compiled for the emacs22 package, so > Emacs will use the one that comes with Emacs which may lack some > feature that you want in your .gnus.el. See > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/133621. > >> Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu? >> >> I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what >> I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right". > > Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely > unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/227925). > > See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version. > > Sven Ubuntu, like Debian, uses some munged site-lips/autoload system from what I can gather and installing from source is not that straightforward. I may be wrong and things have changed. Just a heads up on that one and more info can be found in our friend Google. The emacs (22.2.1) with Debian Lenny works fine "out of the box". ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
sven> Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely sven> unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation sven> See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version. OK, I'm now successfully running Emacs22 and Gnus (gnus-5.10.10.tar.gz). Thanks to everyone who replied to my "plea for help"! -Kenneth PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ... that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ... ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > sven> Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely > sven> unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation > > sven> See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version. > > OK, I'm now successfully running Emacs22 and Gnus (gnus-5.10.10.tar.gz). > > Thanks to everyone who replied to my "plea for help"! > > -Kenneth > > PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ... > that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ... Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
>> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ... >> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ... dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22? That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ... Are you using it? What version is it? -Kenneth ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ... > >> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ... > > dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22? > > That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ... > > Are you using it? What version is it? Well, I am using developer versions of Emacs, anyway. But I don't remember anything wrong with gnus before we forked off the Emacs 22 release branch. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ... > >> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ... > > dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22? > > That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ... > > Are you using it? What version is it? > > -Kenneth Kenneth, FWIW, I used the Gnus version bundled with the ubuntu emacs22 package with no problems, and am currently using the ubuntu emacs-snapshot package, which also contains gnus, again with no problems. As dak pointed out there seems to be no need now to install a stand alone gnus, the tramp package I think also falls into this category. -- Peter. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
ps> FWIW, I used the Gnus version bundled with the ubuntu emacs22
ps> package with no problems, and am currently using the ubuntu
ps> emacs-snapshot package, which also contains gnus, again with no
ps> problems.
Hmmm ... I wonder why I couldn't get it to work? Maybe I had some
"legacy" config options in ".emacs" and ".gnus.el" that messed things up.
ps> As dak pointed out there seems to be no need now to install a
ps> stand alone gnus, ...
OK, but I don't think I'll change my setup now ("if it's not broken, ...").
Assuming I remember ;-), I'll try using the Ubuntu-distributed version
next time.
ps> ... the tramp package I think also falls into this category.
Yes, I noticed that it was now included ...
Thanks for your comments,
-Kenneth
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