expiring with gnus-parameters

2013-06-27 Thread Harry Putnam
I've used "gnus-parameters" for yrs to run total-expire with specific
expiry-wait periods on certain groups... but there is always this
problem. 

Gnus wants me to actually open and close these groups before the
expiry takes place.

Some of the groups I rarely if ever have need of opening unless
just to run the expiry code.  I want to keep the backlog... just in
case I should need to use it.

I want to just let these groups move along by themselves and find some
way to trick them into thinking the group has been opened and closed
so total-expire will be run, or maybe just run code periodically (on
auto pilot) that opens and closes the groups.

Maybe there is some completely different way to do this:

Can anyone tell me how to arrange for certain groups to be opened and
closed with no human intervention and for that to be automated?

The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific
backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to
periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog,
without me actually doing any intervention.


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Re: expiring with gnus-parameters

2013-06-27 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan
On Fri, Jun 28 2013,Harry Putnam wrote:


[snipped 21 lines]

> The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific
> backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to
> periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog,
> without me actually doing any intervention.

Yes, me too. I've always wondered whether there's any way to do this
without opening the groups.  If it can be bound to M-g and that too
only once/24 hrs, it would be great.

 sivaram
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Re: expiring with gnus-parameters

2013-07-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Sivaram Neelakantan  writes:

> On Fri, Jun 28 2013,Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>
> [snipped 21 lines]
>
>> The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific
>> backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to
>> periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog,
>> without me actually doing any intervention.
>
> Yes, me too. I've always wondered whether there's any way to do this
> without opening the groups.  If it can be bound to M-g and that too
> only once/24 hrs, it would be great.

You are in luck Sivaram... I posted my question on the ding list and
got this nifty reply from Eric Abrahamsen

>From gmane.emacs.gnus.general
  Message-ID: <87fvvypesr@ericabrahamsen.net>

Harry wrote:
> The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific
> backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to
> periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog,
> without me actually doing any intervention.

Eric replied:
> Does 'C-c C-M-X' (`gnus-group-expire-all-groups') do the trick? You
> could put that in a hook to be called when gnus is started or stopped...


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Re: expiring with gnus-parameters

2013-07-01 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan
On Mon, Jul 01 2013,Harry Putnam wrote:

> Sivaram Neelakantan  writes:

[snipped 15 lines]

> You are in luck Sivaram... I posted my question on the ding list and
> got this nifty reply from Eric Abrahamsen
>
> From gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>   Message-ID: <87fvvypesr@ericabrahamsen.net>
>
> Harry wrote:
>> The result I'm after is to have certain groups maintain a specific
>> backlog of messages like 90 days worth or whatever, and to
>> periodically total-expire them down to the actual 90 day backlog,
>> without me actually doing any intervention.
>
> Eric replied:
>> Does 'C-c C-M-X' (`gnus-group-expire-all-groups') do the trick? You
>> could put that in a hook to be called when gnus is started or stopped...


Thank you Harry and Eric.



 sivaram
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