Re: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Fosseen [Prairie Lakes AEA]
I am not sure that group policies can do the same thing as SteadyState.  There 
are features in SteadyState that I am sure are accessible through Group 
Policies, but the actual "Hard Drive Locking" I believe requires extra software 
such as SteadyState.

I have also seen a couple of references to cost.  I show SteadyState is Free 
with a valid XP or Vista OS license.  So the only cost would be time to 
administer.

I also agree, if there was a enterprise console this tool would be much more 
valuable.



From: Frerichs, Chad 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:46 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us 
Subject: RE: [info-tech] steadystate


I am thinking that is why Microsoft advised not to use it on a large number of 
machines. They suggested instead to do some of the same things SteadyState does 
with group policies. I wish I could find that article because it detailed those 
group policies, but I do not have time right now.

Chad Frerichs
Director of Technology
Okoboji Community Schools





From: Koenck, Chris [mailto:chris.koe...@estherville.k12.ia.us] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:35 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] steadystate


I have used it in one of our computer labs. It worked as advertised, but I 
didn't like the fact that there was no Management Console. Each machine had to 
be "unfrozen" manually to apply updates, patches, etc. Maybe they have improved 
it since this was a couple of years ago. If it had a Management Console to 
unfreeze all computers in one shot, then it would definitely be worth the 
money!! I guess it depends on how often you want to patch and update your 
computers. It is a great way to make them oblivious to any changes made during 
a day. One reboot and all is well again.

 

Chris Koenck

Network Specialist

Head Wrestling & Boys' Tennis Coach

Estherville Lincoln Central CSD

712-362-8404-office

712-380-2337-cell

 

From: George Tuttle [mailto:georgectut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:09 PM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] steadystate

 

Techs:

 

  Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works with XP.  
It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!

 

George


RE: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-16 Thread Dan Davis
I am not sure, but I believe that you cannot run / use UPH cleaner with Steady 
State either...

Dan Davis
Network Administrator
Spirit Lake School District
(712)336-3707 ext 1300
dda...@spirit-lake.k12.ia.us

From: Frerichs, Chad [mailto:cfreri...@okoboji.k12.ia.us]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:46 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] steadystate

I am thinking that is why Microsoft advised not to use it on a large number of 
machines. They suggested instead to do some of the same things SteadyState does 
with group policies. I wish I could find that article because it detailed those 
group policies, but I do not have time right now.

Chad Frerichs
Director of Technology
Okoboji Community Schools



From: Koenck, Chris [mailto:chris.koe...@estherville.k12.ia.us]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:35 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] steadystate
I have used it in one of our computer labs. It worked as advertised, but I 
didn't like the fact that there was no Management Console. Each machine had to 
be "unfrozen" manually to apply updates, patches, etc. Maybe they have improved 
it since this was a couple of years ago. If it had a Management Console to 
unfreeze all computers in one shot, then it would definitely be worth the 
money!! I guess it depends on how often you want to patch and update your 
computers. It is a great way to make them oblivious to any changes made during 
a day. One reboot and all is well again.

Chris Koenck
Network Specialist
Head Wrestling & Boys' Tennis Coach
Estherville Lincoln Central CSD
712-362-8404-office
712-380-2337-cell

From: George Tuttle [mailto:georgectut...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:09 PM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] steadystate

Techs:

  Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works with XP.  
It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!

George


RE: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-16 Thread Frerichs, Chad
I am thinking that is why Microsoft advised not to use it on a large
number of machines. They suggested instead to do some of the same things
SteadyState does with group policies. I wish I could find that article
because it detailed those group policies, but I do not have time right
now.
 
Chad Frerichs
Director of Technology
Okoboji Community Schools
 



From: Koenck, Chris [mailto:chris.koe...@estherville.k12.ia.us] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:35 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] steadystate



I have used it in one of our computer labs. It worked as advertised, but
I didn't like the fact that there was no Management Console. Each
machine had to be "unfrozen" manually to apply updates, patches, etc.
Maybe they have improved it since this was a couple of years ago. If it
had a Management Console to unfreeze all computers in one shot, then it
would definitely be worth the money!! I guess it depends on how often
you want to patch and update your computers. It is a great way to make
them oblivious to any changes made during a day. One reboot and all is
well again.

 

Chris Koenck

Network Specialist

Head Wrestling & Boys' Tennis Coach

Estherville Lincoln Central CSD

712-362-8404-office

712-380-2337-cell

 

From: George Tuttle [mailto:georgectut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:09 PM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] steadystate

 

Techs:

 

  Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works
with XP.  It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!

 

George



RE: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-16 Thread Koenck, Chris
I have used it in one of our computer labs. It worked as advertised, but
I didn't like the fact that there was no Management Console. Each
machine had to be "unfrozen" manually to apply updates, patches, etc.
Maybe they have improved it since this was a couple of years ago. If it
had a Management Console to unfreeze all computers in one shot, then it
would definitely be worth the money!! I guess it depends on how often
you want to patch and update your computers. It is a great way to make
them oblivious to any changes made during a day. One reboot and all is
well again.

 

Chris Koenck

Network Specialist

Head Wrestling & Boys' Tennis Coach

Estherville Lincoln Central CSD

712-362-8404-office

712-380-2337-cell

 

From: George Tuttle [mailto:georgectut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:09 PM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] steadystate

 

Techs:

 

  Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works
with XP.  It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!

 

George



Re: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-16 Thread Neal Hirota
I have been using SteadyState in a couple of our computer labs.  Once the
students know that they have to save their files to a flash drive or to
their home directory folder instead of the local hard drive, it works pretty
well.  It works like DeepFreeze on the Mac side.

Neal A. Hirota
Technology Coordinator
319 Third Avenue NE
Clarion, IA  50525
nhir...@clargold.k12.ia.us
(515) 532-2895 (High School)



On 10/15/09 9:08 PM, "George Tuttle"  wrote:

> Techs:
> 
>   Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works with XP.
> It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!
> 
> George
>




Re: [info-tech] steadystate

2009-10-15 Thread Frerichs, Chad
George,

Don't they still recommend using group policies instead on a domain?
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-Original Message-
From: George Tuttle 
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us 
Sent: Thu Oct 15 21:08:52 2009
Subject: [info-tech] steadystate

Techs:

  Has anyone used Microsoft Steadystate to lock down computers? Works with XP.  
It's free so I'm wondering if that's still to high of a price!

George