Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-11-07)

2013-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi

#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-11-07)



Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-11-07/infrastructure.2013-11-07-19.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* welcome y'all  (nirik, 19:00:23)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.  (nirik, 19:02:04)

* Applications status / discussion  (nirik, 19:09:09)
  * coprs is announced. Work will be ongoing to move it to a more
standard application setup  (nirik, 19:11:48)
  * we are go for release next tuesday of F20beta  (nirik, 19:21:01)
  * our next freeze will start on 2013-11-26  (nirik, 19:21:37)

* Sysadmin tasks/Discussion  (nirik, 19:23:33)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items  (nirik, 19:26:18)
  * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
(nirik, 19:26:18)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:30:05)

Meeting ended at 19:34:08 UTC.




Action Items






Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (71)
* mirek (21)
* anshprat (14)
* frankieonuonga (13)
* abadger1999 (11)
* zodbot (4)
* croberts (4)
* ausmarton (3)
* edgar_ (2)
* smooge (1)
* robyduck (1)
* relrod (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* lmacken (0)
* threebean (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* pingou (0)
* dgilmore (0)
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19:00:22 nirik #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-11-07)
19:00:22 zodbot Meeting started Thu Nov  7 19:00:22 2013 UTC.  The chair is 
nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:22 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link 
#topic.
19:00:23 nirik #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:23 zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:23 nirik #topic welcome y'all
19:00:23 nirik #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore 
mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:23 zodbot Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik 
pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:34 * frankieonuonga is here
19:00:46 * relrod here
19:01:00 * mirek here
19:01:12 * ausmarton here
19:01:13 * abadger1999 here
19:01:24 * anshprat here
19:01:57 nirik morning everyone.
19:02:04 nirik #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
19:02:09 frankieonuonga morning to you
19:02:17 nirik any new folks? or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:02:22 frankieonuonga it is however night time for me in nbi
19:02:31 nirik I'll note that I have been slow to send out the monthly 
apprentice email. Will send later today.
19:02:44 anshprat I am done with askbot stg , now working on packaging . Its 
done and tested on epel
19:02:53 anshprat need to do it on fedora / rawhide
19:03:11 mirek I have question, can I do something as apprentice in cloud?
19:03:27 anshprat I am kinda hardpressed for time these days, so any 
apprentice help would be great..
19:03:33 nirik anshprat: cool. thanks for working on it. ;)
19:03:43 mirek I have openstack workshop done, so I thought that I can do 
some small task in cloud
19:03:44 nirik mirek: not sure what you mean? what sort of thing?
19:03:52 nirik ah, work on the cloud itself?
19:04:07 mirek yes
19:04:17 ausmarton I need help in picking a task.
19:04:47 anshprat ausmarton: wanna help me out? :D
19:05:15 ausmarton yeah, I think I can.
19:05:23 anshprat maybe we should do something like pair programming in 
apprenticeship as well :)
19:05:35 anshprat ausmarton: great, thanks, ping you after meeting in 
#fedora-apps
19:05:35 nirik mirek: well, I need to figure out how to setup access better. 
There's several people interested in helping with cloud stuff. Also, not clear 
what tasks we need done right now, but we could try and make a list. ;) so, 
yes, help welcome, just need to organize it more.
19:07:02 mirek nirik: I definitelly should be able to add and remove volumes, 
which otherwise you have to do :)
19:07:34 nirik mirek: yeah, the way we have things setup thats a task done by 
root on lockbox01 tho...
19:07:48 nirik so we need to figure out how to setup access better
19:08:19 nirik but I can try and work on that...
19:08:29 mirek nirik: no problem, no rush. I can file tickets as well. But if 
you figure somthing I can off load some work from you.
19:08:47 nirik yeah, thanks much.
19:09:09 nirik #topic Applications status / discussion
19:09:18 nirik any applications news/status/plans?
19:10:11 mirek Copr is publicly announced, and open to everybody with FAS 
account. And officially supported. Well supported just by me. So I want to 
start worki
19:10:12 mirek ng on flipping it to standard infra component
19:10:37 nirik cool. How much uptake have you seen? I've seen builders being 
spawned. ;)
19:11:00 * robyduck late, sorry
19:11:23 nirik no worries.
19:11:32 mirek nirik: it is iddling right now
19:11:48 nirik #info coprs is announced. Work will be ongoing to move it to a 
more standard 

November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings.

You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
in the fedora account system. When you reply, please include your
fedora account system login. 

Additionally, this month, I am CC'ing the infrastructure list. If you
would like to send your feedback there as well everyone can see and
comment on it. 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice

At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
you.

I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
make the apprentice program more useful. 

0. Whats your fedora account system login?

1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?

3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?

6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
Finding tickets in your interest area? 

7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting? 

8. What do you use to read your email? 

Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
group up to date with active folks).

Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!

kevin


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Re: November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Miroslav Suchy

On 11/07/2013 08:39 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

0. Whats your fedora account system login?


msuchy


1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?


Yes.


2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?


yes.


3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14


No. I have copr.


4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?


Yes. No.


5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?


As stated on meeting, I would like to help with fedora-cloud. Which 
currently require to be root on lockbox.
Can be the openstack credentials stored on lockbox in some directory 
where group sysadmin-cloud have access?



6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
Finding tickets in your interest area?


No problem. Life is hard. Administration is easy. :)


7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?


Yes. Yes.


8. What do you use to read your email?


Eyes. And Thunderbird.


Mirek

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Re: November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Anshu Prateek
Replies inline:


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:

 Greetings.

 You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group
 in the fedora account system. When you reply, please include your
 fedora account system login.

 Additionally, this month, I am CC'ing the infrastructure list. If you
 would like to send your feedback there as well everyone can see and
 comment on it.

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice

 At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an
 email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for
 you.

 I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the
 following data or anything related you can think of that might help us
 make the apprentice program more useful.

 0. Whats your fedora account system login?


anshprat



 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
 our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?


yes n yes



 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
 to more?

yes, I will  be contributing more on apps side.




 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
 'easyfix' tickets?
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14


mm, the task I am working on started as a simple improve
latency/performance of askbot which evolved into upgrade 0.7.49 which
became packaged 0.7.49. I am mostly done, now only packaging and testing on
fedora/rawhide is left. Its done for epel. I vent been able to spend much
time on it last few weeks. Have just been doing something like 4 hours a
week.



 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
 reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?


yes



 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
 you do any of the above?





 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
 Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
 Finding tickets in your interest area?




 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
 helpful or interesting?


yes . helps to know what others are doing and whats happening in the apps
world.



 8. What do you use to read your email?


mostly browser/laptop and mobile.



 Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
 improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.


How about pairing apprentices up? Nothing mandatory , but this would help
new folks to discover more stuff and help each other? I discovered the
whole mock / bodhi / koji infra only when I had to pack. And can help new
folks with it now.

Also would help us to retain more folks around. Of the last two months I ve
been here, I think I ve seen few of the apprentices repeatedly in the
meetings atleast..



 Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the
 group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or
 whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the
 group up to date with active folks).

 Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!

 kevin

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Re: November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Christopher Meng
On Nov 8, 2013 3:39 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:

 0. Whats your fedora account system login?

cicku

 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
 our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

No. Maybe.

 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
 to more?

No.

 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
 'easyfix' tickets?
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

Yes. But only limited to look.

 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
 reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

Yes. No.

 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
 you do any of the above?

No.

 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
 Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
 Finding tickets in your interest area?

I spend most of time bringing more and more packages into Fedora at the
moment.

 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
 helpful or interesting?

No, no. My locale doesn't allow me to do that.

 8. What do you use to read your email?

 Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
 improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

Gmail Web/Gmail for Android.

I was shocked that I could receive this email but I couldn't remember why
I'd logged into these machines...
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Re: November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Anshu Prateek  wrote:


 mm, the task I am working on started as a simple improve
 latency/performance of askbot which evolved into upgrade 0.7.49 which
 became packaged 0.7.49. I am mostly done, now only packaging and testing on
 fedora/rawhide is left.


For the record,  for every update so far, I have usually tried it in Fedora
first, test it for a while and then commit and build it for Fedora and if
things work out well, test and commit it in EPEL, moving into staging and
then production.  Atleast during the initial period when we adopted askbot,
there were a lot more bugs that we reported upstream and got fixed.  Things
seems to be more stable now atleast for our needs (though certainly not bug
free) and it might useful to follow a consistent strategy.   Thanks for
helping out!

Rahul
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Re: November status update for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices

2013-11-07 Thread Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis

 0. Whats your fedora account system login?

alexove


 1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
 our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?

No


 2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
 to more?

 No

 3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
 'easyfix' tickets?
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14

Yes


 4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
 reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?

Yes, No


 5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
 you do any of the above?

No


 6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
 Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you?
 Finding tickets in your interest area?

 Find things to work on


 7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
 helpful or interesting?

Yes


 8. What do you use to read your email?

gmail, evolution


 Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including
 improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.

No

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