Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[Ankur]

Hey there,
I am Ankur Goel, currently pursuing Bachelors in Computer Science and
Engineering at Indraprastha University, Delhi, India. I was going
through "*Gitlab
as a front end for Fedora Hosted repositories*" project (
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2013#Setup_Gitlab_as_a_front_end_for_Fedora_Hosted_git_repositories)
which
is available on Ideas page of Fedora GSoC 2013. Mentor of this project is
Dan Allen.
I am an active Rails developer and Ruby enthusiast. Very recently, I
created and deployed an application  for my
university, which excellently ran and managed to get more than 16,600 hits
and 250,000 page views in a span of 6 days.

This project interested me a lot and if we managed to set it, as purposed,
lot of developers can stick to this server instead of migrating to Github
for their projects and collaboration.

I would like to get more inputs regarding what is expected from this
project in depth. :)

Looking forward to an exciting and deployment-full summer!
Regards

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Re: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[sankarshan]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Ankur  wrote:
> This project interested me a lot and if we managed to set it, as purposed,
> lot of developers can stick to this server instead of migrating to Github
> for their projects and collaboration.
>
> I would like to get more inputs regarding what is expected from this project
> in depth. :)

The ideas page 

provides a link to Dan's original email and, the underlying part is to
build foundations for "social coding". And, as it is mentioned, the
GSoC deployment may provide the minimum viable installation but it
sets the basis for a long term involvement.

I'd recommend that you read up on how the current git-based
infrastructure works (for Fedora) and, also try out installation and
setting up of Gitlab over a set of mock (but populated) repos.

Of course, Dan and other mentors would be able to provide you with
much specific work items to chase down.


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Re: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[Vít Ondruch]

Hi Ankur,

Since GitLab is Ruby on Rails application and the first step is to 
package it and all its dependencies for Fedora, I recommend you to join 
the Ruby-SIG ML, where is already ongoing discussion about it.



Vít



Dne 11.4.2013 22:23, Ankur napsal(a):

Hey there,
I am Ankur Goel, currently pursuing Bachelors in Computer Science and 
Engineering at Indraprastha University, Delhi, India. I was going 
through "/Gitlab as a front end for Fedora Hosted repositories/" 
project 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2013#Setup_Gitlab_as_a_front_end_for_Fedora_Hosted_git_repositories) which 
is available on Ideas page of Fedora GSoC 2013. Mentor of this project 
is Dan Allen.
I am an active Rails developer and Ruby enthusiast. Very recently, I 
created and deployed an application  for my 
university, which excellently ran and managed to get more than 16,600 
hits and 250,000 page views in a span of 6 days.


This project interested me a lot and if we managed to set it, as 
purposed, lot of developers can stick to this server instead of 
migrating to Github for their projects and collaboration.


I would like to get more inputs regarding what is expected from this 
project in depth. :)


Looking forward to an exciting and deployment-full summer!
Regards

--
-Ankur Goel
http://stackoverflow.com/users/1376448/kiddorails



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Re: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[Ankur]

Hi Vit and Sankarshan,

Thanks for help. Reading through discussion already being carried out here
and the previous mail of Dan Allen; I have grasped some understanding of
what exactly has to be carried out in sequence.
Thanks a lot for inputs and help. :)
Checking out Ruby-SIG ML now.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Vít Ondruch  wrote:

>  Hi Ankur,
>
> Since GitLab is Ruby on Rails application and the first step is to package
> it and all its dependencies for Fedora, I recommend you to join the
> Ruby-SIG ML, where is already ongoing discussion about it.
>
>
> Vít
>
>
>
> Dne 11.4.2013 22:23, Ankur napsal(a):
>
>  Hey there,
> I am Ankur Goel, currently pursuing Bachelors in Computer Science and
> Engineering at Indraprastha University, Delhi, India. I was going through "
> *Gitlab as a front end for Fedora Hosted repositories*" project (
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2013#Setup_Gitlab_as_a_front_end_for_Fedora_Hosted_git_repositories)
>  which
> is available on Ideas page of Fedora GSoC 2013. Mentor of this project is
> Dan Allen.
> I am an active Rails developer and Ruby enthusiast. Very recently, I
> created and deployed an application  for my
> university, which excellently ran and managed to get more than 16,600 hits
> and 250,000 page views in a span of 6 days.
>
>  This project interested me a lot and if we managed to set it, as
> purposed, lot of developers can stick to this server instead of migrating
> to Github for their projects and collaboration.
>
>  I would like to get more inputs regarding what is expected from this
> project in depth. :)
>
>  Looking forward to an exciting and deployment-full summer!
> Regards
>
>  --
> -Ankur Goel
> http://stackoverflow.com/users/1376448/kiddorails
>
>
>
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Re: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[seth vidal]

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:47:21 +0200
Vít Ondruch  wrote:

> Hi Ankur,
> 
> Since GitLab is Ruby on Rails application and the first step is to 
> package it and all its dependencies for Fedora, I recommend you to
> join the Ruby-SIG ML, where is already ongoing discussion about it.
> 

Seems to me the first step is to see if maintaining it and deploying it
is actually what we want - which it is not at all clear it is anymore.

Upstream gitlab devel is pretty negative on public browseability of the
trees. They won't even accept patches to do it. Also - if you read
their tickets there seems to be some other issue with that.

Finally, I am concerned that gitlab looking similar to github is a
liability. Due to the visual similarity many folks will be expecting
some kind of feature parity and it is safe to say that gitlab is very,
very far from that and they don't even seem interested in pursuing it.

That's concerning.

-sv
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Re: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013

[Ranjib Dey]

I share the same concerns. We had similar experience with gitorious too.
And we ended up maintaining our forks. Gitlab shares even more features
with github than gitorious. I suspect its going to be a high maintainance
deployment.

Also withe current trend in rubygem packaging its becoming increasingly
difficult to maintain shared pool of rubygems across apps. One pattern many
app followed is to create omnibus installer (sensu, chef et al) which
bundles everything above glibc. But i wont recomnend that for fedora.
On Apr 12, 2013 6:35 AM, "seth vidal"  wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:47:21 +0200
> Vít Ondruch  wrote:
>
> > Hi Ankur,
> >
> > Since GitLab is Ruby on Rails application and the first step is to
> > package it and all its dependencies for Fedora, I recommend you to
> > join the Ruby-SIG ML, where is already ongoing discussion about it.
> >
>
> Seems to me the first step is to see if maintaining it and deploying it
> is actually what we want - which it is not at all clear it is anymore.
>
> Upstream gitlab devel is pretty negative on public browseability of the
> trees. They won't even accept patches to do it. Also - if you read
> their tickets there seems to be some other issue with that.
>
> Finally, I am concerned that gitlab looking similar to github is a
> liability. Due to the visual similarity many folks will be expecting
> some kind of feature parity and it is safe to say that gitlab is very,
> very far from that and they don't even seem interested in pursuing it.
>
> That's concerning.
>
> -sv
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Inform GitLab devs about the current situation (was: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013)

[Axilleas Pipinellis]

On 04/12/2013 05:20 PM, Ranjib Dey wrote:

I share the same concerns. We had similar experience with gitorious too.
And we ended up maintaining our forks. Gitlab shares even more features
with github than gitorious. I suspect its going to be a high
maintainance deployment.

Also withe current trend in rubygem packaging its becoming increasingly
difficult to maintain shared pool of rubygems across apps. One pattern
many app followed is to create omnibus installer (sensu, chef et al)
which bundles everything above glibc. But i wont recomnend that for fedora.

On Apr 12, 2013 6:35 AM, "seth vidal" mailto:skvi...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:47:21 +0200
Vít Ondruch mailto:vondr...@redhat.com>> wrote:

 > Hi Ankur,
 >
 > Since GitLab is Ruby on Rails application and the first step is to
 > package it and all its dependencies for Fedora, I recommend you to
 > join the Ruby-SIG ML, where is already ongoing discussion about it.
 >

Seems to me the first step is to see if maintaining it and deploying it
is actually what we want - which it is not at all clear it is anymore.

Upstream gitlab devel is pretty negative on public browseability of the
trees. They won't even accept patches to do it. Also - if you read
their tickets there seems to be some other issue with that.

Finally, I am concerned that gitlab looking similar to github is a
liability. Due to the visual similarity many folks will be expecting
some kind of feature parity and it is safe to say that gitlab is very,
very far from that and they don't even seem interested in pursuing it.

That's concerning.

-sv
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Sorry for hijacking Ankur's thread, but since the deadline of the gsoc 
application is approaching we need to know if this project stands as 
valid. I crafted a draft post [0] to send to gitlab's group. Please 
review it and let me know.


PS. There is a fork [1] which supports public browserability. I just 
mention it, I don't think we should use patched forks whatsoever.


[0] http://axilleas.github.io/static/files/gsoc13-gitlab-proposal.txt
[1] https://github.com/ArthurHoaro/Public-GitLab

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Re: Inform GitLab devs about the current situation (was: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013)

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:15:11 +0300
Axilleas Pipinellis  wrote:

> Sorry for hijacking Ankur's thread, but since the deadline of the
> gsoc application is approaching we need to know if this project
> stands as valid. I crafted a draft post [0] to send to gitlab's
> group. Please review it and let me know.

What is the project as it stands? ;) 

I think an excellent and valid GSoC project would be to package gitlab
and it's dependencies in Fedora/EPEL. This would allow all Fedora/RHEL
users to easily install gitlab. 

As for using it in Fedora infrastructure we can deal with that after
it's packaged up and in the mean time talk with upstream and ask them
to consider our needs and possibly by the time everything is packaged
up there will be some solution. 

So, I would concentrate on the packaging effort at this point. 

kevin


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Re: Inform GitLab devs about the current situation (was: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013)

[Jeffrey Ollie]

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> So, I would concentrate on the packaging effort at this point.

Getting GitLab packaged is going to be a tremendous effort, if only
because of the massive number of Ruby Gem dependencies.  If someone
can sweet-talk Google into paying him/her to wrangle all of those
packages through review more power to them!

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Re: Inform GitLab devs about the current situation (was: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013)

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:48:13 -0500
Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> >
> > So, I would concentrate on the packaging effort at this point.
> 
> Getting GitLab packaged is going to be a tremendous effort, if only
> because of the massive number of Ruby Gem dependencies.  If someone
> can sweet-talk Google into paying him/her to wrangle all of those
> packages through review more power to them!

Additionally, as noted by Toshio, it's not simply getting things
packaged and past review, but also there needs to be folks willing to
maintain the packages longer term too. 

kevin


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Re: Inform GitLab devs about the current situation (was: Interested in Gitlab for Fedora Hosted Projects | GSoC 2013)

[Kushal Khandelwal]

Hi ,

My name is Kushal Khandelwal , a third year undergraduate in Electronics
and Instrumentation engineering.I am interested in being a  part of the
community and would like to work on the project " Setting up Gitlab for
Fedora Hosted".

I have discussed about the idea with Vit Ondruch. After reading the
conversations in the mailing list , I understand that the project requires
a long term dedication to maintain the packages. I am self motivated to be
part of the community and put in time to maintain the packages for a longer
time. I think packaging all the ruby dependencies should be a big enough
task and it would also add to the pool of packages for Fedora/EPEL.

I have started to learn how to do Packaging and would draft a proposal for
community to review.

Thank you for the time.

Thanks and Regards


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:48:13 -0500
> Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > >
> > > So, I would concentrate on the packaging effort at this point.
> >
> > Getting GitLab packaged is going to be a tremendous effort, if only
> > because of the massive number of Ruby Gem dependencies.  If someone
> > can sweet-talk Google into paying him/her to wrangle all of those
> > packages through review more power to them!
>
> Additionally, as noted by Toshio, it's not simply getting things
> packaged and past review, but also there needs to be folks willing to
> maintain the packages longer term too.
>
> kevin
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