Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-10 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
I don't have a strong opinion, so I would start with restricted ACLs and expand 
if needed: site admins(releng, infra) + main admin.

2019(e)ko abenduaren 9(a) 15:07:07 (CET)-(e)an, Pierre-Yves Chibon 
-(e)k hau idatzi zuen:
>On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 08:46:28AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:39 AM Karsten Hopp 
>wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We are currently working on getting rid of the git repo at
>fedora-scm-requests [1] which is nowadays only used to store the
>overrides of the default assignee in bugzilla (for example to allow
>different default assignee for Fedora and EPEL).
>> >
>> > I am working on porting this mechanism to dist-git itself (much
>like we did for the anitya integration a few weeks ago).
>> >
>> >  We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS
>username or email to override the default assignee, the big question is
>then, who should be allowed to update this field ?
>> >
>> > Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?
>> >
>> > If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to
>change that ?
>> >
>> > If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is
>that up to the main admin of the component to decide and set ?
>> >
>> 
>> I think in this case, it should be the main admin who can change
>this.
>
>The main admin (and infra/releng) only, or all the admins of the
>project?
>
>
>Pierre
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-10 Thread Karsten Hopp


Am 09.12.19 um 18:34 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon:


Thinking some more about this and while I think we should aim for this process,
considering the gain we would have from just moving away from
fedora-scm-requests (nicer UX, easier sync to bugzilla of the information, no
need to clone that large git repo). Would we be ok with a phased release where
at first one the main admin (and infra/releng) would be able to the set the
overrides?

 From there we could see if we need this approval system and if we do, who can
trigger changing it.

Does that sound reasonable or would you rather we land the entire change at one?
(knowing that we're close to completion with Phase #1, we just need to tweak it
based on the feedback we're collecting in this thread while phase #2 was not
scoped at all).



I think that's the best way to move on from here:

    Allow infra/releng and the main admin to set the overrides

We'll see if an approval system for the new assignee will be neccessary, 
but my guess is that a misuse by setting  or removing assignees without 
their prior approval by other means (mail, IRC, whatever) won't happen 
often.


 Karsten
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 06:34:15PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 05:35:58PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 05:18:32PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > > It would be nice if we would implement "approval" system while doing
> > > this. Like if you set somebody as override, that person must click
> > > "accept". Same way to change it, the old person must click "accept".
> > 
> > I'm trying to think how this would work for groups and pseudo users.
> > For the later this should work fine, except that potentially several people
> > would receive the confirmation link.
> > For the former, it's bit more tricky but it would be one way where we could
> > ensure that the group is correctly set-up in FAS (with an mailing list 
> > address).
> > 
> > It's a bit more work than anticipated though, but should be doable.
> 
> Thinking some more about this and while I think we should aim for this 
> process,
> considering the gain we would have from just moving away from
> fedora-scm-requests (nicer UX, easier sync to bugzilla of the information, no
> need to clone that large git repo). Would we be ok with a phased release where
> at first one the main admin (and infra/releng) would be able to the set the
> overrides?

I think that would be fine and a definite improvement.
> 
> From there we could see if we need this approval system and if we do, who can
> trigger changing it.

Sounds good to me. 

kevin


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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 05:35:58PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 05:18:32PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > It would be nice if we would implement "approval" system while doing
> > this. Like if you set somebody as override, that person must click
> > "accept". Same way to change it, the old person must click "accept".
> 
> I'm trying to think how this would work for groups and pseudo users.
> For the later this should work fine, except that potentially several people
> would receive the confirmation link.
> For the former, it's bit more tricky but it would be one way where we could
> ensure that the group is correctly set-up in FAS (with an mailing list 
> address).
> 
> It's a bit more work than anticipated though, but should be doable.

Thinking some more about this and while I think we should aim for this process,
considering the gain we would have from just moving away from
fedora-scm-requests (nicer UX, easier sync to bugzilla of the information, no
need to clone that large git repo). Would we be ok with a phased release where
at first one the main admin (and infra/releng) would be able to the set the
overrides?

From there we could see if we need this approval system and if we do, who can
trigger changing it.

Does that sound reasonable or would you rather we land the entire change at one?
(knowing that we're close to completion with Phase #1, we just need to tweak it
based on the feedback we're collecting in this thread while phase #2 was not
scoped at all).

Thanks for your inputs,
Pierre
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 05:18:32PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> It would be nice if we would implement "approval" system while doing
> this. Like if you set somebody as override, that person must click
> "accept". Same way to change it, the old person must click "accept".

I'm trying to think how this would work for groups and pseudo users.
For the later this should work fine, except that potentially several people
would receive the confirmation link.
For the former, it's bit more tricky but it would be one way where we could
ensure that the group is correctly set-up in FAS (with an mailing list address).

It's a bit more work than anticipated though, but should be doable.


Pierre
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Igor Gnatenko
It would be nice if we would implement "approval" system while doing
this. Like if you set somebody as override, that person must click
"accept". Same way to change it, the old person must click "accept".

Of course, pagure admin should be able to override this, based on
FESCo tickets and such.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:14 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 08:46:28AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:39 AM Karsten Hopp  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We are currently working on getting rid of the git repo at 
> > > fedora-scm-requests [1] which is nowadays only used to store the 
> > > overrides of the default assignee in bugzilla (for example to allow 
> > > different default assignee for Fedora and EPEL).
> > >
> > > I am working on porting this mechanism to dist-git itself (much like we 
> > > did for the anitya integration a few weeks ago).
> > >
> > >  We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS username 
> > > or email to override the default assignee, the big question is then, who 
> > > should be allowed to update this field ?
> > >
> > > Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?
> > >
> > > If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to change 
> > > that ?
> > >
> > > If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is that up 
> > > to the main admin of the component to decide and set ?
> > >
> >
> > I think in this case, it should be the main admin who can change this.
>
> The main admin (and infra/releng) only, or all the admins of the project?
>
>
> Pierre
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Jun Aruga
>  We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS username or 
> email to override the default assignee, the big question is then, who should 
> be allowed to update this field ?

I like it's the same policy with editing the Setting page of
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/foo .

> Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?

Yes.

> If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to change 
> that ?

Main admin (maintainer) + other admin people can be allowed.

> If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is that up to 
> the main admin of the component to decide and set ?

First, someone can take a main admin (maintainer) for
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/foo . Then the person can set.

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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 08:46:28AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:39 AM Karsten Hopp  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are currently working on getting rid of the git repo at 
> > fedora-scm-requests [1] which is nowadays only used to store the overrides 
> > of the default assignee in bugzilla (for example to allow different default 
> > assignee for Fedora and EPEL).
> >
> > I am working on porting this mechanism to dist-git itself (much like we did 
> > for the anitya integration a few weeks ago).
> >
> >  We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS username or 
> > email to override the default assignee, the big question is then, who 
> > should be allowed to update this field ?
> >
> > Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?
> >
> > If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to change 
> > that ?
> >
> > If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is that up 
> > to the main admin of the component to decide and set ?
> >
> 
> I think in this case, it should be the main admin who can change this.

The main admin (and infra/releng) only, or all the admins of the project?


Pierre
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Re: moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:39 AM Karsten Hopp  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are currently working on getting rid of the git repo at 
> fedora-scm-requests [1] which is nowadays only used to store the overrides of 
> the default assignee in bugzilla (for example to allow different default 
> assignee for Fedora and EPEL).
>
> I am working on porting this mechanism to dist-git itself (much like we did 
> for the anitya integration a few weeks ago).
>
>  We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS username or 
> email to override the default assignee, the big question is then, who should 
> be allowed to update this field ?
>
> Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?
>
> If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to change 
> that ?
>
> If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is that up to 
> the main admin of the component to decide and set ?
>

I think in this case, it should be the main admin who can change this.
If we had per-branch ACLs, then I would also say that the admins of
the EPEL branches could change EPEL assignments too...



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moving bugzilla overrides to dist-git

2019-12-09 Thread Karsten Hopp

Hi,

We are currently working on getting rid of the git repo at 
fedora-scm-requests [1] which is nowadays only used to store the 
overrides of the default assignee in bugzilla (for example to allow 
different default assignee for Fedora and EPEL).


I am working on porting this mechanism to dist-git itself (much like we 
did for the anitya integration a few weeks ago).


 We are thinking on providing a simple text field to submit FAS 
username or email to override the default assignee, the big question is 
then, who should be allowed to update this field ?


Should the main admin be able to set someone else as assignee ?

If there is already an override assignee, who should be allowed to 
change that ?


If there's no override assignee set, can everyone become it or is that 
up to the main admin of the component to decide and set ?


I'd appreciate your input

Thanks, Karsten


[1] https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/

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