Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
Am 31.05.2016 um 03:49 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: > Yes, changes applied. - Thank you, Sylvain! I've updated the bottom paragraph about where the money goes when it's not needed for hackfests, so in case the board decides we do not need a separate 'box' for hackfest money, it remains all clear to the users what their money will be used for. > Note that on this page (we should remember to edit it too): > https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/ > the hackfest is introduced as an annual event. - Yes, we'll also need to update the link on that page. @Brynn: would you have a look when you can and tell us if you would like to see any changes to that page? Thanks everyone! Kind Regards, Maren -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
Le 31/05/2016 à 19:14, Maren Hachmann a écrit : > Am 31.05.2016 um 03:49 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: >> Note that on this page (we should remember to edit it too): >> https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/ >> the hackfest is introduced as an annual event. > > - Yes, we'll also need to update the link on that page. I suggest a new text about the hackfests on this page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I started translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two spaces between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, enough to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? > @Brynn: would you have a look when you can and tell us if you would like > to see any changes to that page? -- Sylvain -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 22:17 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: > I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I > started > translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two > spaces > between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English > prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the > ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch > keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, > enough > to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? Unless you insert a no-breaking-space ( ) into the document, all spaces in html are counted as one space. The wysiwyg editor is the only thing capable of inserting anything more. Rule wise, two spaces are not needed, we can always recode two spaces formatting via code we want it later. A single space should be enough. Martin, signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
Am 31.05.2016 um 22:31 schrieb Martin Owens: > On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 22:17 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: >> I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I >> started >> translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two >> spaces >> between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English >> prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the >> ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch >> keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, >> enough >> to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? > > Unless you insert a no-breaking-space ( ) into the document, all > spaces in html are counted as one space. The wysiwyg editor is the only > thing capable of inserting anything more. > > Rule wise, two spaces are not needed, we can always recode two spaces > formatting via code we want it later. A single space should be enough. > > Martin, > The rule stems from old type-writer times, and some of our editors used type-writers before they used computers. It's just a matter of taste, and it's not necessary to remove the double spaces. Just write your new contents as you would normally do. Kind Regards, Maren > -- > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity > planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e > > > > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
Am 31.05.2016 um 22:17 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: > Le 31/05/2016 à 19:14, Maren Hachmann a écrit : >> Am 31.05.2016 um 03:49 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: >>> Note that on this page (we should remember to edit it too): >>> https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/ >>> the hackfest is introduced as an annual event. >> >> - Yes, we'll also need to update the link on that page. > > I suggest a new text about the hackfests on this page: > https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit - Looks fine, thank you, Sylvain. I've edited it a tiny bit to make it a bit more 'personal'. I think when our native speaker(s) has (have) taken a look, both pages can be published. Regards, Maren -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
I tried to look at the page, but I only get Page Not Found. Yes, I'm logged in. Those from my generation see a double-space after a period to be correct punctuation. However, those who invented computers thought they could get by without it. And so that very simple step, which makes reading large chunks of text much, much easier, is lost from the world. I think it's actually considered to be a bug in django that the 2nd space is created. Most of the rest of the internet ignores it. I actually type the double-space automatically (old dogs and new tricks, you know). But I'm pretty sure Maren has scoured the entire website, an eliminated any double-spaces. Where do you see them? All best, brynn -- From: "Sylvain Chiron" Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:17 PM To: Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page > Le 31/05/2016 à 19:14, Maren Hachmann a écrit : >> Am 31.05.2016 um 03:49 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: >>> Note that on this page (we should remember to edit it too): >>> https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/ >>> the hackfest is introduced as an annual event. >> >> - Yes, we'll also need to update the link on that page. > > I suggest a new text about the hackfests on this page: > https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit > > I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I started > translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two spaces > between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English > prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the > ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch > keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, enough > to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? > >> @Brynn: would you have a look when you can and tell us if you would like >> to see any changes to that page? > -- > Sylvain > > -- > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and > traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols > are > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity > planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
@Brynn: It's these two pages: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit (or get there via the menu: Support us, then switch to edit mode) https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/hackfests/?edit (or get there via the 'Pages' overview in the admin interface, in Home -> Support Us -> Hackfests, then click on the 'eye' icon in the corresponding row) Kind Regards, Maren Am 31.05.2016 um 22:57 schrieb Brynn: > I tried to look at the page, but I only get Page Not Found. Yes, I'm > logged in. > > Those from my generation see a double-space after a period to be correct > punctuation. However, those who invented computers thought they could > get by without it. And so that very simple step, which makes reading > large chunks of text much, much easier, is lost from the world. > > I think it's actually considered to be a bug in django that the 2nd > space is created. Most of the rest of the internet ignores it. > > I actually type the double-space automatically (old dogs and new tricks, > you know). But I'm pretty sure Maren has scoured the entire website, an > eliminated any double-spaces. Where do you see them? > > All best, > brynn > > -- > From: "Sylvain Chiron" > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:17 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page > >> Le 31/05/2016 à 19:14, Maren Hachmann a écrit : >>> Am 31.05.2016 um 03:49 schrieb Sylvain Chiron: Note that on this page (we should remember to edit it too): https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/ the hackfest is introduced as an annual event. >>> >>> - Yes, we'll also need to update the link on that page. >> >> I suggest a new text about the hackfests on this page: >> https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit >> >> I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I started >> translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two spaces >> between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English >> prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the >> ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch >> keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, enough >> to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? >> >>> @Brynn: would you have a look when you can and tell us if you would like >>> to see any changes to that page? >> -- >> Sylvain >> >> -- >> >> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and >> traffic >> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and >> protocols are >> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, >> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity >> planning reports. >> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e >> ___ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> > -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
Le 31/05/2016 à 22:37, Maren Hachmann a écrit : > Am 31.05.2016 um 22:31 schrieb Martin Owens: >> On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 22:17 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: >>> I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I >>> started >>> translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two >>> spaces >>> between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English >>> prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the >>> ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch >>> keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, >>> enough >>> to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? >> >> Unless you insert a no-breaking-space ( ) into the document, all >> spaces in html are counted as one space. The wysiwyg editor is the only >> thing capable of inserting anything more. Actually, the WYSIWYG editor always morphes sequences of spaces to space + for each following space. That means people wrote those two spaces. >> Rule wise, two spaces are not needed, we can always recode two spaces >> formatting via code we want it later. A single space should be enough. > > The rule stems from old type-writer times, and some of our editors used > type-writers before they used computers. It's just a matter of taste, > and it's not necessary to remove the double spaces. Just write your new > contents as you would normally do. Le 31/05/2016 à 22:57, Brynn a écrit : > Those from my generation see a double-space after a period to be > correct punctuation. However, those who invented computers thought > they could get by without it. And so that very simple step, which > makes reading large chunks of text much, much easier, is lost from > the world. Okay, funny fact. > I think it's actually considered to be a bug in django that the 2nd > space is created. Most of the rest of the internet ignores it. It's not a bug, it's a feature: it should be possible to write consecutive spaces in a rendered document, and then the WYSIWYG editor deals with that. Consecutive spaces are usually ignored in HTML as they are is most programming languages (Whitespace and derivatives may be the only exceptions), but you can render several consecutive spaces by inserting non-breakable spaces. I think every HTML WYSIWYG editor should include this feature of inserting non-breakable spaces when several spaces are typed (in theory) — you may find it in other editors, e.g. Microsoft Outlook Express which is the only example I can find in my memory. > I actually type the double-space automatically (old dogs and new > tricks, you know). But I'm pretty sure Maren has scoured the entire > website, an eliminated any double-spaces. Where do you see them? * https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit_off Hackfest and Funded Development sections. * https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/ Just use Ctrl+F and type ‘ ’, you'll find many. Not sure it is so useful to list everything this evening… I don't see why it would be necessary to scour the website about that, but as it questions me, it could also question the visitors… You may provide a link on the FAQ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typewriter#Typewriter_conventions (See how I'm interested in the typographic thing.) > I tried to look at the page, but I only get Page Not Found. Yes, > I'm logged in. Be sure to be in edit mode. The links I provided should work if you click them /after/ you logged in to the Inkscape website with your browser. Is it OK now? -- Sylvain -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
I have it now. The original link Sylvain gave was missing 1 letter. But I have it now. One thing I don't get. I thought the reason for this page was to explain about Hackfest, separate from asking for donations. But it still is asking for donations. What happens when it's time for the next Hackfest? Will this page go back into the menu? I'm confused. In any case, I don't see any problems on that page. Everything looks good. All best, brynn -- From: "Sylvain Chiron" Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:59 PM To: Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page > OK, here is a draft for the general page about the Hackfest: > https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/hackfest/?edit > (Note that you must be connected to see it.) > > I barely wrote anything actually; mostly removed what was specific to > this year and moved the sentences for something more generic. I only > added two sentences with a list in the middle. > > Is it enough? I edited the French page symmetrically. > > Sylvain > > Le 30/05/2016 à 04:48, Brynn a écrit : >> Oh ok. Yeah, that seems like a good idea. Where would this new page >> live? >> >> Yes, I can help with proofing. >> >> Idea (fwiw) >> What about keeping kind of a Hackfest History on this page? Nothing >> fancy. >> Just say when and where, how many hackers. I like the idea of telling >> users >> which issues were worked on. Although in a different message thread, >> Martin >> didn't think it was necessary. For me, I think it could help drive >> donations, if users can see what kind of work was being done. It could >> be >> very simplistic description. >> >> All best, >> brynn >> >> -- >> From: "Maren Hachmann" >> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:04 AM >> To: "Brynn" ; ; >> "Sylvain Chiron" >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest 2016 page >> >>> Am 28.05.2016 um 10:17 schrieb Brynn: Hi Everyone, I'm coming late to this discussion, and I'm not sure exactly what it's about. What problem is trying to be solved? Or new feature created? >>> >>> - No new feature, just talking about creating an all-year-round >>> replacement of the Hackfest donation page, which can be shown when we're >>> not collecting money for a specific hackfest, only for hackfests in >>> general. >>> >>> If Sylvain writes the text, would you as a native speaker help him with >>> proofreading? >>> >>> I'll take care of the menu and page moving when the replacement page is >>> ready. >>> >>> There seems to be some caching involved, and maybe some permissions >>> stuff. I can't test for the permissions on my local development version >>> (and there's no staging area anymore, where we could try things like >>> these out...). >>> >>> Does anyone have any objections against this proposed page? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Maren >>> Thanks, brynn -- From: "Sylvain Chiron" Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:43 PM To: Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest 2016 page > Le 27/05/2016 à 04:08, Maren Hachmann a écrit : >> - That's weird, my update scanner never had a problem accessing the >> page, and the page's history doesn't say anything about unpublishing. >> I hope you didn't find yet another bug... :/ >> >> If something like that happens again, please notify the admins, so we >> can try to find out what's going on. The page wasn't supposed to be >> inaccessible. > > I'm so sorry… > I looked at the pages on the admin interface, and saw a gray disc for > the Hackfest page in English. > I launched another browser for fresh user data (I always clear > everything at closing, I'm crazy), and went on inkscape.org, selected > English, then the Hackfest menu item. I got the 404 page. > >> - Thanks!!! > > No more 404. > >> - I think you should have the permissions (if it doesn't work, just >> ping >> Martin or me to get them). >> >> Go to the 'pages' page in the admin interface, and make sure the page >> is >> as wide as possible (hope you're using a 16:9 screen, on mine it's >> really difficult. It doesn't seem to work correctly if I just zoom >> out - >> the request for a scrollbar is already reported...). Then click on >> the >> check icon in the 'Menu' column near the end to turn it into a 'no >> entry' sign. > > I have two screens, 16:9 and 16:10. 3600 pixels from the left to the > right of my computer desktop. > I clicked and got the ‘no entry’ sign (a minus sign). But then, > nothing… > the menu entry is still there. > >> and we may publish a general page about the >>> hackfest instead which would remain permanently accessible. >>> So first, someone should do the move. >> >> - I think it's better to have the replacement re
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page
> Okay, funny fact. To be honest, I see it as sad (not to mention, a little bit illiterate). I don't find any double-spaces on Funded Development page, or Hackfest page either. Not even using Find. I could show screenshots. I wonder if there's some way that your browser is causing this? Or otherwise something on your end is causing the problem? I don't see a any double-spaces anywhere on the site. (This part is a little funny. When I first found out about this, I was purposely inserting a double-space after a period (and after a colon too). From my point of view, it's proper punctuation. At that time, I was working on several different pages for the website. I would edit one day, and the next day, all my double-spaces were gone. It turns out Maren was going through right behind me, and removing them. Later, I tried to sneak one in, just to find out how long it would take her to find it. And the answer - just a few hours!) All best, brynn -- From: "Sylvain Chiron" Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 3:28 PM To: Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Hackfest page > Le 31/05/2016 à 22:37, Maren Hachmann a écrit : >> Am 31.05.2016 um 22:31 schrieb Martin Owens: >>> On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 22:17 +0200, Sylvain Chiron wrote: I have this existential question which pollutes my mind since I started translation in the Inkscape project: is it so common to write two spaces between a full stop/period and the sentence that follows in English prose? Or is it the fault of shaking fingers with the use of the ‘double-space becomes period then space’ feature with a mobile touch keyboard? I often saw those two spaces on the Inkscape website, enough to be able to think it can be a wished rule. What is the reason? >>> >>> Unless you insert a no-breaking-space ( ) into the document, all >>> spaces in html are counted as one space. The wysiwyg editor is the only >>> thing capable of inserting anything more. > > Actually, the WYSIWYG editor always morphes sequences of spaces to space > + for each following space. That means people wrote those two > spaces. > >>> Rule wise, two spaces are not needed, we can always recode two spaces >>> formatting via code we want it later. A single space should be enough. >> >> The rule stems from old type-writer times, and some of our editors used >> type-writers before they used computers. It's just a matter of taste, >> and it's not necessary to remove the double spaces. Just write your new >> contents as you would normally do. > > Le 31/05/2016 à 22:57, Brynn a écrit : >> Those from my generation see a double-space after a period to be >> correct punctuation. However, those who invented computers thought >> they could get by without it. And so that very simple step, which >> makes reading large chunks of text much, much easier, is lost from >> the world. > > Okay, funny fact. > >> I think it's actually considered to be a bug in django that the 2nd >> space is created. Most of the rest of the internet ignores it. > > It's not a bug, it's a feature: it should be possible to write > consecutive spaces in a rendered document, and then the WYSIWYG editor > deals with that. Consecutive spaces are usually ignored in HTML as they > are is most programming languages (Whitespace and derivatives may be the > only exceptions), but you can render several consecutive spaces by > inserting non-breakable spaces. I think every HTML WYSIWYG editor should > include this feature of inserting non-breakable spaces when several > spaces are typed (in theory) — you may find it in other editors, e.g. > Microsoft Outlook Express which is the only example I can find in my > memory. > >> I actually type the double-space automatically (old dogs and new >> tricks, you know). But I'm pretty sure Maren has scoured the entire >> website, an eliminated any double-spaces. Where do you see them? > > * https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/?edit_off > Hackfest and Funded Development sections. > * https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/ > Just use Ctrl+F and type ‘ ’, you'll find many. > > Not sure it is so useful to list everything this evening… I don't see > why it would be necessary to scour the website about that, but as it > questions me, it could also question the visitors… You may provide a > link on the FAQ: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typewriter#Typewriter_conventions > > (See how I'm interested in the typographic thing.) > >> I tried to look at the page, but I only get Page Not Found. Yes, >> I'm logged in. > > Be sure to be in edit mode. The links I provided should work if you > click them /after/ you logged in to the Inkscape website with your > browser. > > Is it OK now? > -- > Sylvain > > -- > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and > traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, ap
