Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features

2018-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 21:14 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
> Thanks, that helps. Kudos for figuring out that weird reason.
> 
> Turns out one cannot subscribe to all news. I don't think it should
> require me to subscribe to a specific language, when I have set it to
> 'all', though.
> 
> Screenshots:
> http://i.imgur.com/3TxCOWG.png
> http://i.imgur.com/Hi70BIT.png

Great! I've fixed this specific issue, I don't think it was ever
intended to be a required field like this.

I also pushed the new keywords and html desc fields for the releases
app. Which I figured was VERY important to fix. So we can now set a
htmldesc on the release (say 0.91) which will show in google's search
results as the description for those pages. Plus keywords for the
release which will be added to the keywords list, then on top of that
each platform can have it's own keywords now, so they get added on too.

So base.html says "inkscape,", release.html template adds
"release,download," Release object adds "0.92.1,fun_release,etc..."
then the platform adds "windows,win32,win10,windows 10,..." etc etc.

None of these fields are currently filled in though, so if there's some
really kind docs person who wants to mull over what they should be all
set to, let us know and I can give some training into how to use the
admin site to set them.

Martin,

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features

2018-02-09 Thread Maren Hachmann
Thanks, that helps. Kudos for figuring out that weird reason.

Turns out one cannot subscribe to all news. I don't think it should
require me to subscribe to a specific language, when I have set it to
'all', though.

Screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/3TxCOWG.png
http://i.imgur.com/Hi70BIT.png

Maren

Am 09.02.2018 um 17:26 schrieb Martin Owens:
> Thanks for trying Maren,
> 
> I've pushed a much more comprehensive set of changes, firstly by making
> form errors VERY visible. What's happening is that the form is being
> rejected because a field is required. The first fix was to tell the
> form that the field wasn't required, I don't know why it didn't work
> for you the second time though, so that's why I've pushed a bigger fix
> that shows tabs in red, keeps tabs present and shows field errors in
> red.
> 
> So hopefully when you test again, it'll either work, or fail in a
> really big showy way.
> 
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
> 
> On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
>> Thanks for having a look.
>>
>> No, doesn't work.
>>
>> To reproduce:
>>
>> Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/
>> Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published)
>> Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On)
>> Save Notification Settings
>>
>> Go to a different page.
>> Open Message settings page again.
>> All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not
>> sent, either.
>>
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
>>>
>>> Maren,
>>>
>>> Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:

 I think you misunderstood me.

 Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular
 member.  If 
 another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no
 idea
 that member 
 has already been flagged.

 That member probably has at least one reported resource in their
 profile page, 
 which is a clue that member might already be flagged.  But
 sometimes
 the member 
 doesn't get flagged.

 Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they
 have been 
 flagged.  But it would just be convenient to see it on the
 profile
 page, and not 
 have to look around for it.

 I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be
 handled
 the same way. 
 Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's
 been
 flagged?

 Thanks,
 brynn

 -Original Message- 
 From: Martin Owens
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM
 To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
 Cc: die humblex
 Subject: Re: new moderation features


>
>
>
> Martin, would it be  possible to have a similar label
> for
> flagged
> members?  Just to prevent confusion?  Or is the idea more about
> identifying
> hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
 Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to
 show.
 They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've
 posted)

 Best Regard, Martin Owens 

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features

2018-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
Thanks for trying Maren,

I've pushed a much more comprehensive set of changes, firstly by making
form errors VERY visible. What's happening is that the form is being
rejected because a field is required. The first fix was to tell the
form that the field wasn't required, I don't know why it didn't work
for you the second time though, so that's why I've pushed a bigger fix
that shows tabs in red, keeps tabs present and shows field errors in
red.

So hopefully when you test again, it'll either work, or fail in a
really big showy way.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
> Thanks for having a look.
> 
> No, doesn't work.
> 
> To reproduce:
> 
> Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/
> Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published)
> Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On)
> Save Notification Settings
> 
> Go to a different page.
> Open Message settings page again.
> All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not
> sent, either.
> 
> Maren
> 
> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
> > 
> > Maren,
> > 
> > Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving
> > issue.
> > 
> > Martin,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think you misunderstood me.
> > > 
> > > Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular
> > > member.  If 
> > > another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no
> > > idea
> > > that member 
> > > has already been flagged.
> > > 
> > > That member probably has at least one reported resource in their
> > > profile page, 
> > > which is a clue that member might already be flagged.  But
> > > sometimes
> > > the member 
> > > doesn't get flagged.
> > > 
> > > Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they
> > > have been 
> > > flagged.  But it would just be convenient to see it on the
> > > profile
> > > page, and not 
> > > have to look around for it.
> > > 
> > > I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be
> > > handled
> > > the same way. 
> > > Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's
> > > been
> > > flagged?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > brynn
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: Martin Owens
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM
> > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
> > > Cc: die humblex
> > > Subject: Re: new moderation features
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Martin, would it be  possible to have a similar label
> > > > for
> > > > flagged
> > > > members?  Just to prevent confusion?  Or is the idea more about
> > > > identifying
> > > > hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
> > > Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to
> > > show.
> > > They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've
> > > posted)
> > > 
> > > Best Regard, Martin Owens 
> > > 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features

2018-02-09 Thread Maren Hachmann
Thanks for having a look.

No, doesn't work.

To reproduce:

Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/
Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published)
Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On)
Save Notification Settings

Go to a different page.
Open Message settings page again.
All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not
sent, either.

Maren

Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
> Maren,
> 
> Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving
> issue.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
>> I think you misunderstood me.
>>
>> Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular
>> member.  If 
>> another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea
>> that member 
>> has already been flagged.
>>
>> That member probably has at least one reported resource in their
>> profile page, 
>> which is a clue that member might already be flagged.  But sometimes
>> the member 
>> doesn't get flagged.
>>
>> Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they
>> have been 
>> flagged.  But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile
>> page, and not 
>> have to look around for it.
>>
>> I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled
>> the same way. 
>> Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been
>> flagged?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Martin Owens
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM
>> To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
>> Cc: die humblex
>> Subject: Re: new moderation features
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Martin, would it be  possible to have a similar label for
>>> flagged
>>> members?  Just to prevent confusion?  Or is the idea more about
>>> identifying
>>> hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
>> Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show.
>> They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've
>> posted)
>>
>> Best Regard, Martin Owens 
>>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] gallery moderation - where is this image?

2018-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Brynn,

There are two upload spots in a resource, one is the 'file' and other
is the rendering. You're currently free to upload two images into these
slots. The main image page will show the rendering, while I think the
moderation page is showing the 'file' version instead.

This makes me wonder if we should have a way to see that.

Martin,

On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:52 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> I'm seeing something on the Moderation Page which I don't
> understand. 
> Regarding the item titled "Wensen en Grenzen" by member Koekiepoekie.
> 
> Look at kokiepokie profile.  It shows no avatar, and 2
> reported images - 
> a thumbnail (pineapple) and resource is a b/w cartooon.
> 
> On Moderation Page are 3 items related to this -- the
> reported member 
> (no avatar showing), "cool ananas" which is the b/w cartoon, and item
> titled 
> "Wensen en Grenzen".
> 
> The "Wensen en Grenzen" item is showing a grayish-blue and
> rust colored 
> abstract background with (I think) a puppy or some kind of cute baby
> animal in 
> foreground.
> 
> Where is that blue puppy image, in the gallery?  It seems
> they have 
> somehow uploaded 3 image files for one resource.  But I can't find
> where the 
> blue puppy image is being displayed.
> 
> Thanks for your help  :-)
> brynn 
> 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation features

2018-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
Maren,

Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving
issue.

Martin,

On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
> I think you misunderstood me.
> 
> Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular
> member.  If 
> another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea
> that member 
> has already been flagged.
> 
> That member probably has at least one reported resource in their
> profile page, 
> which is a clue that member might already be flagged.  But sometimes
> the member 
> doesn't get flagged.
> 
> Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they
> have been 
> flagged.  But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile
> page, and not 
> have to look around for it.
> 
> I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled
> the same way. 
> Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been
> flagged?
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM
> To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs
> Cc: die humblex
> Subject: Re: new moderation features
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Martin, would it be  possible to have a similar label for
> > flagged
> > members?  Just to prevent confusion?  Or is the idea more about
> > identifying
> > hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
> Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show.
> They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've
> posted)
> 
> Best Regard, Martin Owens 
> 

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] new moderation procedure?

2018-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Brynn,

It's worth contacting and inviting them in, yes. If you see a pattern
of flagigng that indicates a misunderstanding, especially if they're
leaving notes.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 20:24 -0700, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> This is something which has never been discussed.  But
> recently we've 
> had some images being reported by a regular member, which moderators
> have 
> approved, and they remain in the gallery.  In one case they reported
> a member.
> 
> Should we contact a member who reports an image, thank them
> for helping, 
> and explain our decision, why we decided not to delete the image?
> 
> In this particular case, I'm thinking we may need to contact
> him or her, 
> just to try and prevent more unnecessary reports.  But in general, I
> wonder if 
> we should take the time to explain our motivation, since the member
> is taking 
> the time to help us.
> 
> (Hah, for these recent reports, maybe I should try to recruit
> him or her 
> as a moderator?)
> 
> Thanks for any comments  :-)
> brynn 
> 

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