Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

2017-01-11 Thread Vardenis Pavardenis 
Hello,Matin Owens said: "Because really that page needs to not exist in the form it is." and he doing website improvements. So, maybe just wait and don't update if really this page change form from current form to new form. Lessons list can be created easily, if something agrees with my suggestion, but if the page really change whether it's worth it to build?11.01.2017, 05:22, "Maren Hachmann" :Am 11.01.2017 um 04:00 schrieb brynn: I think that page  may need to exist into the future.  Not all video authors will want to go to the trouble to upload theirlinks.  And having this page will allow us to have a list of some of the best ones, which are not in the gallery.- Anyone can add any video to the gallery. You can do so, too. We couldhave a 'featured' tag or something similar, too, if we want to designate'the best'. But we can also just let the community decide what they likebest, by voting on the items. Who knows with certainty what is helpfulfor others... Although eventually, maybe it could be combined with the Text Tutorials page. They won't be intermingled, just 2 separate section.  Maybe - just a thought.- I would go so far as to replace the text tutorials page, too... it'sjust causing translation work, with no additional benefit in comparisonto a gallery page (for me). As I've said before, I'm sure we can make it nicer to look at. Another thought - links to non-YouTube videos will work as well?  vimeo, e.g.- All links will work. For embedding, vimeo and youtube do work. Otherproviders can be added as needed.Regards, Maren All best, brynn -Original Message- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:37 PM To: Maren Hachmann ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Tue, 2017-01-10 at 21:21 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote: Can't say that I can see why we'd take this route, when seemingly, we all agree that the page would be better off being replaced with a proper solution to the problem... We already had this situation once (where it was my fault), I don't like to see it repeated. Btw. anyone can add a link to an Inkscape tutorial video they like, and mark as 'Tutorial'. It needn't be the author (but it would be good to have them on board, of course). If someone needs help with how to do this, I'm available for explanations / step-by-steps. I'm really hoping my improvements which are yet to go in, will help get links added correctly. Because really that page needs to not exist in the form it is. But who knows, I have hope the next website release will be met with positive review. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs--Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi ProcessorsAccess to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms.With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE.Training and support from Colfax.Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi___Inkscape-docs mailing listInkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs--
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

2017-01-06 Thread Vardenis Pavardenis 
Hello,I was a little busy these days, sorry. :-) I'm too agree thatyou will not need upload all YouTube videos  to the gallery, but just update "Video Tutorials" with new tutorials, or entire redesign or delete this page, but maybe just update. :-) I don't know how exactly works editor, but someone agree with format I give? (https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/)It can be:Nick Saporito @YouTube    Inkscape Explained < playlist link.    Inkscape Explained: Path Functions < video link    In this video I'll be going over the Path menu in Inkscape.  ...with a lot black circles and black squares. :-)06.01.2017, 11:46, "Martin Owens" :On Thu, 2017-01-05 at 23:51 -0700, brynn wrote: Another thought I had.  Video tutorial authors might be more inclined to upload  videos, if they could upload small batches in one go, instead of one at a time.  Would that be really hard to provide?We really DO NOT want people uploading videos to the inkscape website.We only want the video links. Video links can be added by anyone and Iwouldn't mind having a generic inkscape user to collect them all underif we need to. Linking to videos is allowed by anyone.The system is only a matter of cataloguing so we don't have to do somuch manual work. Esp for translations and updates.Best Regards, Martin OwensP.S. Maren, I should check to make sure that our pages don't say "byUsername" when the item is "I have permission" instead of "I own thiswork"--Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___Inkscape-docs mailing listInkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs--
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

2017-01-03 Thread Vardenis Pavardenis 
Currently in YouTube are 3-4 channels who creating videos about Inkcape, if I know all. :-)04.01.2017, 00:23, "Vardenis Pavardenis" <var...@yandex.com>:I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de>:Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn: I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But again, that's not something I can start on right away.- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if hemight prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead ofa short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we stillwant to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field isstill open, no decision was made). But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago) But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for theswitch, not sure.Maren Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But now we are putting them in the gallery? - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ... I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators. But maybe that would be going too far? Regards, Maren -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com>: I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis,  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes.  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

2017-01-03 Thread Vardenis Pavardenis 
I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de>:Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn: I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But again, that's not something I can start on right away.- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if hemight prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead ofa short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we stillwant to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field isstill open, no decision was made). But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago) But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for theswitch, not sure.Maren Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But now we are putting them in the gallery? - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ... I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators. But maybe that would be going too far? Regards, Maren -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com>: I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis,  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes.  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" categor

[Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

2017-01-02 Thread Vardenis Pavardenis 
Hello,"Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ?In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials.Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for discussion. :-)

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