Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-08-01 Thread bandura1
Hello Everybody,
Roy Torley here.  Quick aside from the main topic.  I just want to keep
you in the loop that I haven't put in time yet to take care of copyleft
details for my tutorial.  It is on the to-do list, though.  Working on
Chapter 4, slowly but steadily.

I appreciate your keeping me in the conversation.  I hope you all are
having a pleasant summer.

Best wishes,

Roy Torley

> Hi again,
> Regarding the possibility of html tutorials on the website, should
> a
> feature request "bug report" be made, to avoid losing the idea?  Or is it
> something that's already coming down the road, and doesn't need a
> reminder?
> Or, when Martin said "I'd be happy to see a collection of html
> tutorials on the website using the website's cms if we have the quality of
> submissions. "  does that mean using the Django editor?
>
> Thanks,
> brynn




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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-25 Thread ugajin

Of course data has to be downloaded to be rendered, but routinely, such data is 
not stored permanently by default. Also, and I shouldn't perhaps generalise, it 
may be presumed that most people do not habitually save web pages.

-u


 On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 02:30:51 + Sylvain 
Chironchironsylv...@orange.fr wrote  

 Is not having them downloadable, to prevent them from being edited, or 
used 
 without permission?

Well, I don't see what you could mean with ‘allowing to view a file but
not to download it’. A file must be downloaded to be viewed, and then
can be taken, copied, edited. You should only think about law and
copyright if you have special wishes.

Whether the website provides an explicit ‘Download’ button or you use
the ‘Save as…’ menu item of your browser when viewing, there's not much
difference.
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-25 Thread ugajin

Yes, I recall the link issue, so pdf could be a way forward. 

However, for me, there is still something about publishing content in pdf which 
doesn't sit right. I feel it makes a different kind of statement, and I like 
(and prefer) the proto nature of html. To emulate the structure of the 
viewBox... project, which isn't complex using a pdf model on Inkscape.org, may 
not be without other issues. As I write, I am looking at example url paths for 
a few tutorials...  Further, each pdf tutorial document needs to be able to 
include links to downloadable resources, which may need to be hosted on an 
external server, as (in my case) I don't think it will makes sense to upload 
them to the gallery.

Hosting html tutorials on Inkscape.org could be a better solution all round. 

-u

 On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 02:46:37 + Brynnbr...@frii.com wrote  

It it possible to upload an html file. But what shows up in the gallery is 
the html code, not the page. So I think you'd have to make it an image 
file. 
 
This is part of the problem I think I might have mentioned to you in either 
another message or the forum. I'm trying to figure out how to make 
tutorials for the website, with links. It can't be a PNG and have a link in 
it. It almost would have to be an SVG file. Or maybe PDF. 
 
But anyway, to put your tutorials in the InkSpace Tutorials section, it 
can't be an html file. 
 
Sorry, I wish I had a good answer for you. 
 
All best, 
brynn 
 
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From: ugajin 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 3:13 PM 
To: Brynn 
Cc: ma...@goos-habermann.de ; inkscape-docs 
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please? 
 
 
Hi Brynn 
 
I do not want to include exercises.html and tutorial.html with the zip 
download. The (extension) zip will include a readMe.html file. If I upload 
the tutorial.html and/or exercises.html to the tutorial category, won't they 
still be downloadable? 
 
I would like the tutorial, and ecercises to be readable, not downloadable. 
 
I hope this makes sense. 
 
Kind regards 
 
-u 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:41:05 + Brynnbr...@frii.com wrote  
 
Hi ugajin, 
I'm not quite following what your concerns are. You want the html 
pages to be available for users, but you don't want the users to download 
them? 
I guess you could upload the tutorial to the InkSpace Tutorial 
category. And then I think it's fairly typical to have a readme file 
together with an extension or any other program. Maybe the readme file 
could have a link to the tutorial? 
 
All best, 
brynn 
 
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From: ugajin 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 4:11 AM 
To: ma...@goos-habermann.de 
Cc: inkscape-docs 
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please? 
 
 
Hi Maren, 
 
Yes, I am referring to the html documentation; specifically the 
'tutorial.html and 'examples.html' pages. The viewBox... extension files, 
together with the readMe file will be downloadable. The structure that I 
have made, seems to work OK, and I would like to keep links in the 
readMe.html file for the example.html and tutorial.html pages, so ideally 
these pages need to be hosted, but not by me. 
 
I have considered building a local structure, and adding the said supporting 
docs to the zip file. Indeed, this had been my initial approach, but as the 
supporting documentation grew, I began to have doubts, and to ask, why do it 
this way? Including them in the zip file would no doubt 'work', but it is 
not the approach that I would like to take. 
 
Further, why should anyone have, or want to download files that a) they may 
not want, and/or b) simply in order to access, and/or peruse them? I am not 
against anyone downloading them per-se (e.g. if they chose to do so) and, I 
am less worried about users breaking any relative links. I guess, I am 
simply not intending the supporting documents to be downloadable. 
 
I don't think requesting more space is an answer. 
 
Thanks for considering matters. 
 
Kind regards. 
 
-u 
 
 
 On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:59:28 + ma...@goos-habermann.de wrote 
 
 
Hi u, 
 
I'm not entirely sure which specific documents you are referring to. 
 
If you mean external documents, that you don't control (the manual, for 
example), then you could just add a link into the README file and / or 
into the description text for the extension. 
 
If you mean your own html documents, why don't you just add them to the 
zip file? You could make a subfolder 'documentation' or similar, if you 
like. 
 
If you need more space for uploading everything, this list is the place to 
request it. 
 
Kind Regards, 
Maren 
 
 
 I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is 
 awaiting upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for 
 preview here: 
 http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch 
 of supporting documents. 
 
 The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-24 Thread Brynn
It it possible to upload an html file.  But what shows up in the gallery is 
the html code, not the page.  So I think you'd have to make it an image 
file.

This is part of the problem I think I might have mentioned to you in either 
another message or the forum.  I'm trying to figure out how to make 
tutorials for the website, with links.  It can't be a PNG and have a link in 
it.  It almost would have to be an SVG file.  Or maybe PDF.

But anyway, to put your tutorials in the  InkSpace Tutorials section, it 
can't be an html file.

Sorry, I wish I had a good answer for you.

All best,
brynn

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From: ugajin
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Brynn
Cc: ma...@goos-habermann.de ; inkscape-docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?


Hi Brynn

I do not want to include exercises.html and tutorial.html with the zip 
download. The (extension) zip will include a readMe.html file. If I upload 
the tutorial.html and/or exercises.html to the tutorial category, won't they 
still be downloadable?

I would like the tutorial, and ecercises to be readable, not downloadable.

I hope this makes sense.

Kind regards

-u




 On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:41:05 + Brynn<br...@frii.com> wrote  

Hi ugajin,
I'm not quite following what your concerns are. You want the html
pages to be available for users, but you don't want the users to download
them?
I guess you could upload the tutorial to the InkSpace Tutorial
category. And then I think it's fairly typical to have a readme file
together with an extension or any other program. Maybe the readme file
could have a link to the tutorial?

All best,
brynn

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From: ugajin
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 4:11 AM
To: ma...@goos-habermann.de
Cc: inkscape-docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?


Hi Maren,

Yes, I am referring to the html documentation; specifically the
'tutorial.html and 'examples.html' pages. The viewBox... extension files,
together with the readMe file will be downloadable. The structure that I
have made, seems to work OK, and I would like to keep links in the
readMe.html file for the example.html and tutorial.html pages, so ideally
these pages need to be hosted, but not by me.

I have considered building a local structure, and adding the said supporting
docs to the zip file. Indeed, this had been my initial approach, but as the
supporting documentation grew, I began to have doubts, and to ask, why do it
this way? Including them in the zip file would no doubt 'work', but it is
not the approach that I would like to take.

Further, why should anyone have, or want to download files that a) they may
not want, and/or b) simply in order to access, and/or peruse them? I am not
against anyone downloading them per-se (e.g. if they chose to do so) and, I
am less worried about users breaking any relative links. I guess, I am
simply not intending the supporting documents to be downloadable.

I don't think requesting more space is an answer.

Thanks for considering matters.

Kind regards.

-u


 On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:59:28 + <ma...@goos-habermann.de> wrote  

Hi u,

I'm not entirely sure which specific documents you are referring to.

If you mean external documents, that you don't control (the manual, for
example), then you could just add a link into the README file and / or
into the description text for the extension.

If you mean your own html documents, why don't you just add them to the
zip file? You could make a subfolder 'documentation' or similar, if you
like.

If you need more space for uploading everything, this list is the place to
request it.

Kind Regards,
Maren

>
> I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is
> awaiting upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for
> preview here:
> http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch
> of supporting documents.
>
> The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want to
> host them on ugajin.co.uk). Whilst, I may upload the extension files,
> without the supporting documents and/or providing a link to them, this
> seems to me to be the wrong approach.
>
> The viewBox and its sibling attributes are one of those things, which are
> not be easily accessed in Inkscape, and those cutting their teeth writing
> SVG using Inkscape may benefit from the supporting documentation.
>
> Thank you for considering matters.
>
> -u
>
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> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity
> planning
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-24 Thread Sylvain Chiron
> Is not having them downloadable, to prevent them from being edited, or used 
> without permission?

Well, I don't see what you could mean with ‘allowing to view a file but
not to download it’. A file must be downloaded to be viewed, and then
can be taken, copied, edited. You should only think about law and
copyright if you have special wishes.

Whether the website provides an explicit ‘Download’ button or you use
the ‘Save as…’ menu item of your browser when viewing, there's not much
difference.
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-24 Thread ugajin
Hi Brynn

I do not want to include exercises.html and tutorial.html with the zip 
download. The (extension) zip will include a readMe.html file. If I upload the 
tutorial.html and/or exercises.html to the tutorial category, won't they still 
be downloadable?

I would like the tutorial, and ecercises to be readable, not downloadable.

I hope this makes sense.

Kind regards

-u



 On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:41:05 + Brynnbr...@frii.com wrote  

Hi ugajin, 
 I'm not quite following what your concerns are. You want the html 
pages to be available for users, but you don't want the users to download 
them? 
 I guess you could upload the tutorial to the InkSpace Tutorial 
category. And then I think it's fairly typical to have a readme file 
together with an extension or any other program. Maybe the readme file 
could have a link to the tutorial? 
 
All best, 
brynn 
 
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From: ugajin 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 4:11 AM 
To: ma...@goos-habermann.de 
Cc: inkscape-docs 
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please? 
 
 
Hi Maren, 
 
Yes, I am referring to the html documentation; specifically the 
'tutorial.html and 'examples.html' pages. The viewBox... extension files, 
together with the readMe file will be downloadable. The structure that I 
have made, seems to work OK, and I would like to keep links in the 
readMe.html file for the example.html and tutorial.html pages, so ideally 
these pages need to be hosted, but not by me. 
 
I have considered building a local structure, and adding the said supporting 
docs to the zip file. Indeed, this had been my initial approach, but as the 
supporting documentation grew, I began to have doubts, and to ask, why do it 
this way? Including them in the zip file would no doubt 'work', but it is 
not the approach that I would like to take. 
 
Further, why should anyone have, or want to download files that a) they may 
not want, and/or b) simply in order to access, and/or peruse them? I am not 
against anyone downloading them per-se (e.g. if they chose to do so) and, I 
am less worried about users breaking any relative links. I guess, I am 
simply not intending the supporting documents to be downloadable. 
 
I don't think requesting more space is an answer. 
 
Thanks for considering matters. 
 
Kind regards. 
 
-u 
 
 
 On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:59:28 + ma...@goos-habermann.de wrote 
 
 
Hi u, 
 
I'm not entirely sure which specific documents you are referring to. 
 
If you mean external documents, that you don't control (the manual, for 
example), then you could just add a link into the README file and / or 
into the description text for the extension. 
 
If you mean your own html documents, why don't you just add them to the 
zip file? You could make a subfolder 'documentation' or similar, if you 
like. 
 
If you need more space for uploading everything, this list is the place to 
request it. 
 
Kind Regards, 
Maren 
 
 
 I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is 
 awaiting upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for 
 preview here: 
 http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch 
 of supporting documents. 
 
 The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want to 
 host them on ugajin.co.uk). Whilst, I may upload the extension files, 
 without the supporting documents and/or providing a link to them, this 
 seems to me to be the wrong approach. 
 
 The viewBox and its sibling attributes are one of those things, which are 
 not be easily accessed in Inkscape, and those cutting their teeth writing 
 SVG using Inkscape may benefit from the supporting documentation. 
 
 Thank you for considering matters. 
 
 -u 
 
 
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 traffic 
 patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols 
 are 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-24 Thread ugajin
Hi Maren,

Yes, I am referring to the html documentation; specifically the 'tutorial.html 
and 'examples.html' pages. The viewBox... extension files, together with the 
readMe file will be downloadable. The structure that I have made, seems to work 
OK, and I would like to keep links in the readMe.html file for the example.html 
and tutorial.html pages, so ideally these pages need to be hosted, but not by 
me.

I have considered building a local structure, and adding the said supporting 
docs to the zip file. Indeed, this had been my initial approach, but as the 
supporting documentation grew, I began to have doubts, and to ask, why do it 
this way?  Including them in the zip file would no doubt 'work', but it is not 
the approach that I would like to take. 

Further, why should anyone have, or want to download files that a) they may not 
want, and/or b) simply in order to access, and/or peruse them? I am not against 
anyone downloading them per-se (e.g. if they chose to do so) and, I am less 
worried about users breaking any relative links. I guess, I am simply not 
intending the supporting documents to be downloadable. 

I don't think requesting more space is an answer.

Thanks for considering matters. 

Kind regards.

-u

 On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:59:28 + ma...@goos-habermann.de wrote 
 

Hi u, 
 
I'm not entirely sure which specific documents you are referring to. 
 
If you mean external documents, that you don't control (the manual, for 
example), then you could just add a link into the README file and / or 
into the description text for the extension. 
 
If you mean your own html documents, why don't you just add them to the 
zip file? You could make a subfolder 'documentation' or similar, if you 
like. 
 
If you need more space for uploading everything, this list is the place to 
request it. 
 
Kind Regards, 
 Maren 
 
 
 I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is 
 awaiting upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for 
 preview here: 
 http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch 
 of supporting documents. 
 
 The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want to 
 host them on ugajin.co.uk). Whilst, I may upload the extension files, 
 without the supporting documents and/or providing a link to them, this 
 seems to me to be the wrong approach. 
 
 The viewBox and its sibling attributes are one of those things, which are 
 not be easily accessed in Inkscape, and those cutting their teeth writing 
 SVG using Inkscape may benefit from the supporting documentation. 
 
 Thank you for considering matters. 
 
 -u 
 
 
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 traffic 
 patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols 
 are 
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 planning 
 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-23 Thread maren
Hi u,

I'm not entirely sure which specific documents you are referring to.

If you mean external documents, that you don't control (the manual, for
example), then you could just add a link into the README file and / or
into the description text for the extension.

If you mean your own html documents, why don't you just add them to the
zip file? You could make a subfolder 'documentation' or similar, if you
like.

If you need more space for uploading everything, this list is the place to
request it.

Kind Regards,
 Maren

>
> I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is
> awaiting upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for
> preview here:
> http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch
> of supporting documents.
>
> The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want to
> host them on ugajin.co.uk). Whilst, I may upload the extension files,
> without the supporting documents and/or providing a link to them, this
> seems to me to be the wrong approach.
>
> The viewBox and its sibling attributes are one of those things, which are
> not be easily accessed in Inkscape, and those cutting their teeth writing
> SVG using Inkscape may benefit from the supporting documentation.
>
> Thank you for considering matters.
>
> -u
>
> --
> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and
> traffic
> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols
> are
> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow,
> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity
> planning
> reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev___
> Inkscape-docs mailing list
> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
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[Inkscape-docs] Help please?

2016-07-23 Thread ugajin

I have been working on a new extension called viewBox..., which is awaiting 
upload to the Inkscape addons gallery. It is available for preview here: 
http://ugajin.co.uk/sketchbooks/viewBox/viewBox/viewBox.html, with a bunch of 
supporting documents. 

The problem is what to do with the supporting documents (I do not want to host 
them on ugajin.co.uk). Whilst, I may upload the extension files, without the 
supporting documents and/or providing a link to them, this seems to me to be 
the wrong approach.

The viewBox and its sibling attributes are one of those things, which are not 
be easily accessed in Inkscape, and those cutting their teeth writing SVG using 
Inkscape may benefit from the supporting documentation.

Thank you for considering matters.

-u

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