Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
Thanks for asking :) Keep this documented along with the link to Jerry's article, so you can hand this over to whomever will polish the page when they have the time. Kind regards, Maren Am 20.11.2015 um 08:59 schrieb Brynn: > Hi Maren, >Sounds like no problem for dual license: > > "Hey, Brynn. Absolutely, those are fine. GPL 3+ and CC-BY-SA 3.0+ > > Jerry" > > All best, > brynn > > -- > From: <ma...@goos-habermann.de> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:50 AM > To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> > Cc: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>; "Maren Hachmann" > <ma...@goos-habermann.de> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions > >>> Hi Maren, >>> Sure, I'll ask. Just want to be clear what I'm asking. Am I >>> asking >>> if we can give the text the 2nd license? Or if he can give it that >>> license >>> for us? Or if there's a better way to say it? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> brynn >> >> Hi Brynn, >> >> sorry - yes, please ask for a dual-licencing of his text, so anything we >> take from it will be compatible with the website's licencing (CC-By-SA + >> GPLv3+). >> >> Thanks again, >> Maren >> >>> -- >>> From: "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:12 AM >>> To: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >>> >>>> Hi Brynn, >>>> >>>> >>>> good work :) >>>> Just a quick request: Could you ask Jerry for dual-licencing (GPLv3+ >>>> and >>>> CC-By-SA), please? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Maren >>>> >>>> Am 12.11.2015 um 02:58 schrieb Brynn: >>>>> Hi again Everyone, >>>>> I've received a positive reply from the 1 article author >>>>> (Jerry >>>>> Stratton) I was able to contact. He says he doesn't feel qualified to >>>>> do >>>>> any of the writing himself, but says we can quote his articles. Below >>>>> I've >>>>> quoted from his reply, so I don't get any details wrong about the >>>>> licensing, >>>>> etc. >>>>> So if Xavi, or whoever ends up working on it, maybe some of >>>>> Jerry's >>>>> articles will be helpful :-) >>>>> >>>>> All best, >>>>> brynn >>>>> >>>>> "All of my Mimsy/hacks code is under the GPL v3, and you are hereby >>>>> officially allowed to use the text from the above-mentioned pages >>>>> under >>>>> the >>>>> GPL v3 as well. If you need another license, let me know what you >>>>> need, >>>>> and >>>>> Iâ?Tll take a look at it. As long as thereâ?Ts a link back, I >>>>> expect it >>>>> will >>>>> be >>>>> fine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/parsing-and-setting-colors-inkscape-extensions/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/ >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/updated-inkscape-extension/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/get-element-id-inkscape/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/ >>>>> "After midnight, all things are possible."" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> From: "Martin Owens" <docto...@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:07 PM >>>>> To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> >>>>> Cc: "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:53 -0700, Brynn wrote: >>>>>>> who have no previous in
Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
Hi Maren, Sounds like no problem for dual license: "Hey, Brynn. Absolutely, those are fine. GPL 3+ and CC-BY-SA 3.0+ Jerry" All best, brynn -- From: <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:50 AM To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> Cc: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>; "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >> Hi Maren, >> Sure, I'll ask. Just want to be clear what I'm asking. Am I >> asking >> if we can give the text the 2nd license? Or if he can give it that >> license >> for us? Or if there's a better way to say it? >> >> Thanks, >> brynn > > Hi Brynn, > > sorry - yes, please ask for a dual-licencing of his text, so anything we > take from it will be compatible with the website's licencing (CC-By-SA + > GPLv3+). > > Thanks again, > Maren > >> -- >> From: "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:12 AM >> To: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >> >>> Hi Brynn, >>> >>> >>> good work :) >>> Just a quick request: Could you ask Jerry for dual-licencing (GPLv3+ and >>> CC-By-SA), please? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Maren >>> >>> Am 12.11.2015 um 02:58 schrieb Brynn: >>>> Hi again Everyone, >>>> I've received a positive reply from the 1 article author (Jerry >>>> Stratton) I was able to contact. He says he doesn't feel qualified to >>>> do >>>> any of the writing himself, but says we can quote his articles. Below >>>> I've >>>> quoted from his reply, so I don't get any details wrong about the >>>> licensing, >>>> etc. >>>> So if Xavi, or whoever ends up working on it, maybe some of >>>> Jerry's >>>> articles will be helpful :-) >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> brynn >>>> >>>> "All of my Mimsy/hacks code is under the GPL v3, and you are hereby >>>> officially allowed to use the text from the above-mentioned pages under >>>> the >>>> GPL v3 as well. If you need another license, let me know what you need, >>>> and >>>> Iâ?Tll take a look at it. As long as thereâ?Ts a link back, I expect it >>>> will >>>> be >>>> fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/parsing-and-setting-colors-inkscape-extensions/ >>>> >>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/ >>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/updated-inkscape-extension/ >>>> >>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/get-element-id-inkscape/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/ >>>> "After midnight, all things are possible."" >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> From: "Martin Owens" <docto...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:07 PM >>>> To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> >>>> Cc: "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:53 -0700, Brynn wrote: >>>>>> who have no previous interest in the product. >>>>> >>>>> I think someone who writes a guide has probably used the 'product' ;-) >>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing they might offer to let us quote from their guides, >>>>>> rather than >>>>>> find the time to do it themselves. I mean, I don't mind trying to >>>>>> contact >>>>>> them, if that's what we decide to do. Who knows? Maybe they would >>>>>> want to >>>>>> work together on it? >>>>> >>>>> Please do. This kind of outreach is really important at bringing >>>>> people >>>>> together and your helpful interest in the page is a great reason to >>>>> reach out. &
Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
> Hi Maren, > Sure, I'll ask. Just want to be clear what I'm asking. Am I > asking > if we can give the text the 2nd license? Or if he can give it that > license > for us? Or if there's a better way to say it? > > Thanks, > brynn Hi Brynn, sorry - yes, please ask for a dual-licencing of his text, so anything we take from it will be compatible with the website's licencing (CC-By-SA + GPLv3+). Thanks again, Maren > -- > From: "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:12 AM > To: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions > >> Hi Brynn, >> >> >> good work :) >> Just a quick request: Could you ask Jerry for dual-licencing (GPLv3+ and >> CC-By-SA), please? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Kind Regards, >> Maren >> >> Am 12.11.2015 um 02:58 schrieb Brynn: >>> Hi again Everyone, >>> I've received a positive reply from the 1 article author (Jerry >>> Stratton) I was able to contact. He says he doesn't feel qualified to >>> do >>> any of the writing himself, but says we can quote his articles. Below >>> I've >>> quoted from his reply, so I don't get any details wrong about the >>> licensing, >>> etc. >>> So if Xavi, or whoever ends up working on it, maybe some of >>> Jerry's >>> articles will be helpful :-) >>> >>> All best, >>> brynn >>> >>> "All of my Mimsy/hacks code is under the GPL v3, and you are hereby >>> officially allowed to use the text from the above-mentioned pages under >>> the >>> GPL v3 as well. If you need another license, let me know what you need, >>> and >>> Iâll take a look at it. As long as thereâs a link back, I expect it >>> will >>> be >>> fine. >>> >>> >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/parsing-and-setting-colors-inkscape-extensions/ >>> >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/ >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/updated-inkscape-extension/ >>> >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/get-element-id-inkscape/ >>> >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/ >>> "After midnight, all things are possible."" >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Martin Owens" <docto...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:07 PM >>> To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> >>> Cc: "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions >>> >>>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:53 -0700, Brynn wrote: >>>>> who have no previous interest in the product. >>>> >>>> I think someone who writes a guide has probably used the 'product' ;-) >>>> >>>>> I'm guessing they might offer to let us quote from their guides, >>>>> rather than >>>>> find the time to do it themselves. I mean, I don't mind trying to >>>>> contact >>>>> them, if that's what we decide to do. Who knows? Maybe they would >>>>> want to >>>>> work together on it? >>>> >>>> Please do. This kind of outreach is really important at bringing >>>> people >>>> together and your helpful interest in the page is a great reason to >>>> reach out. >>>> >>>> If people aren't interested, then we can also ask if the content is >>>> licensed under the GPL/Creative Commons license so we can integrate it >>>> into the website. Without a good license, we'd have to link only. >>>> >>>>> Or maybe someone who is more familiar with writing extensions could >>>>> use the >>>>> info from these 3 guides, to add to the official one? It's all just >>>>> a >>>>> little beyond my reach, to be able to do that myself. When I read >>>>> these >>>>> guides, I get through the first 3 or 4 paragraphs, and then I'm >>>>> completely >>>>> lost. >>>> >>>> Don't worry about the content exactly. You can guide people on how to >>>> edit the web page or get them in touch with me or Maren etc. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, Martin Owens >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Inkscape-docs mailing list >>> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >>> >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> > -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
[Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
Hi Friends (Maren, Martin), I've been wondering whether it might be a good idea to have a link to the guide to writing extensions, which recently was mentioned in a message on the dev list (https://medium.com/@xaviju/inkscape-extensions-by-non-developers-for-non-developers-a-primer-b272dda360fe) somewhere on the website. Maybe either on the Develop page, or on the new Extensions page? And since I just came across another less technical kind of guide: http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/, I'm motivated to bring up the issue here. Should they be listed/linked? I think they both serve as simple examples, which potentially could help new extension-writers. Or would they just be in that category of more links that are prone to bitrot? Just a thought. I'll be glad to make the edits, if everyone else agrees. All best, brynn -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
Another: http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/parsing-and-setting-colors-inkscape-extensions/ >From here, I'll keep the list to myself, and share when I finish searching ;-) brynn -- From: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 4:53 PM To: "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions > That sounds reasonable to me. From what I recall of his message on the > list, it seems like he might be interested. > > However, I've just rediscovered another guide that I knew about a long > time ago, but had forgotten about. http://sugarpillstudios.com/wp/?p=142 > > So now with 3 potentially helpful, but "unofficial" guides, will it be > reasonable to ask all 3 authors to contribute to the website? Or maybe I > will discover more? > > I certainly don't mind contacting them and asking...or inviting them to > help with the official guide (especially since I've been "pushing" to get > a guide written). But I'm not sure if it would be appropriate. Kind of > like making "cold calls" an old telemarketing term, meaning to sell > something to strangers who have no previous interest in the product. > > I'm guessing they might offer to let us quote from their guides, rather > than find the time to do it themselves. I mean, I don't mind trying to > contact them, if that's what we decide to do. Who knows? Maybe they > would want to work together on it? > > Or maybe someone who is more familiar with writing extensions could use > the info from these 3 guides, to add to the official one? It's all just a > little beyond my reach, to be able to do that myself. When I read these > guides, I get through the first 3 or 4 paragraphs, and then I'm completely > lost. > > Anyone else with ideas? (or offers :-)) > > brynn > > -- > From: "Martin Owens" <docto...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 4:04 PM > To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com> > Cc: "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions > >> Hi Brynn, >> >> What would be a really good outreach is if you contact the author of the >> medium.com article and ask him if he'd like to improve the inkscape.org >> extension guide with the information he's written on his blog. >> >> that way we don't have to link to something that might disapear for >> information we should certainly have the best of on our website and we >> potentially invite a new contributor to help out on the official pages. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Best Regards, Martin Owens >> >> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 15:22 -0700, Brynn wrote: >>> Hi Friends (Maren, Martin), >>> I've been wondering whether it might be a good idea to have a >>> link >>> to the guide to writing extensions, which recently was mentioned in a >>> message on the dev list >>> (https://medium.com/@xaviju/inkscape-extensions-by-non-developers-for-non-developers-a-primer-b272dda360fe) >>> somewhere on the website. Maybe either on the Develop page, or on the >>> new >>> Extensions page? >>> And since I just came across another less technical kind of >>> guide: >>> http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/write-inkscape-extension-create-multiple-duplicates/, >>> I'm motivated to bring up the issue here. >>> Should they be listed/linked? I think they both serve as simple >>> examples, which potentially could help new extension-writers. Or would >>> they >>> just be in that category of more links that are prone to bitrot? >>> Just a thought. I'll be glad to make the edits, if everyone >>> else >>> agrees. >>> >>> All best, >>> brynn >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Inkscape-docs mailing list >>> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] more on writing extensions
Hi, I'm Xavi, the author of the medium post. What would be a really good outreach is if you contact the author of the > medium.com article and ask him if he'd like to improve the inkscape.org > extension guide with the information he's written on his blog. I certainly don't mind contacting them and asking...or inviting them to help > with the official guide (especially since I've been "pushing" to get a > guide > written). But I'm not sure if it would be appropriate. Kind of like > making > "cold calls" an old telemarketing term, meaning to sell something to > strangers who have no previous interest in the product. > You can quote or simply copy my text without quoting, or I can do it myself if I learn how. Its totally no problem, just let me know. I wrote the text in medium as a self-guide on how I learnt to make a simple extension but since I am not a developer I was not sure it was ok. If anyone with more experience thinks this guide is good enough for inkscape guide to get started in inkscape extensions Ill be more than happy to help. I used some of this other posts as a reference for creating my own extension: https://github.com/Xaviju/inkscape-placeholder :) Xavi -- ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
