Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Maren Hachmann

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Hi Brynn,

no need to apologize, I only explained, so other people who read this
will know what it's about.

 So just to be clear,  you want me to use the plug-in, but take the /en out of 
 the url?

- - Yes, that would be good..

 I just started on the Learn page, and ran into the same thing, with the 
 official tutorials.  They
don't seem to have a listing in the dropdown either.  Should I do the
same thing with them?

- - Correct.

We may need to check those links regularly and keep our eyes open for
users reporting dead links - but right now, this is the only option we
have to link to pictures from a gallery without putting the full gallery
plugin there.

Regards,
 Maren

 Thanks  :-)

 --
 From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:50 AM
 To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
 Cc: Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!


 Hi Brynn,

 the links to the example files, which are not easily accessible to Mac
 users because of the structure of their Inkscape program file, can be
 turned into plugin links.

 It was about accessibility, not about it 'being nicer' ;) People who
 don't have Inkscape installed can then also take a look, which isn't
 bad, as some of those demonstrate the various filters.

 You can link to them like this: https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/
 (take out the /en from the url, please, that way they will automatically
 redirect to the language the user chose). It is not currently possible
 to select them from the dropdown list.

 Thanks!

 @Martin: some of the files in that examples Inkspace
 (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/3506/), like this one:
 https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/ , are svgz, and can't be
 displayed directly. I had added a thumbnail as a replacement for the
 item view, but it is only used in the Inkspace overview, and not
 displayed in item view any longer. Do you know why?


 Kind regards,
 Maren

 Am 31.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Brynn:
  No, I'm not editing the gallery.  I've transferred the new faq
content to live site, and now
 I'm fixing all the links.  (not published yet)  Maren had loaded all the
 share/example files into the gallery, a while ago.  I wanted to link to
 some of them in the faq.  (I think you might have been ill when we
 discussed, and she worked on it.)  So I think she thought it would be
 nicer to have them in the gallery, rather than direct people how to look
 them up in their own systems (because we would have to give directions
 for all the kinds of systems).
 
  So I was just asking if there is a way to link to one of those images,
 using the plug-in.  I know how to link to the gallery, using the
 plug-in, but not to a specific image.
 
  Thanks  :-)
 
  --
  From: Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:31 AM
  To: Brynn br...@frii.com
  Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs
 inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!
 
  On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
  Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery
  (examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can
  they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.
 
  They can be made with links.
 
  Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms
page,
  it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)
 
  Martin,
 
 





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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Maren Hachmann

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Hi Brynn,

the links to the example files, which are not easily accessible to Mac
users because of the structure of their Inkscape program file, can be
turned into plugin links.

It was about accessibility, not about it 'being nicer' ;) People who
don't have Inkscape installed can then also take a look, which isn't
bad, as some of those demonstrate the various filters.

You can link to them like this: https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/
(take out the /en from the url, please, that way they will automatically
redirect to the language the user chose). It is not currently possible
to select them from the dropdown list.

Thanks!

@Martin: some of the files in that examples Inkspace
(https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/3506/), like this one:
https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/ , are svgz, and can't be
displayed directly. I had added a thumbnail as a replacement for the
item view, but it is only used in the Inkspace overview, and not
displayed in item view any longer. Do you know why?


Kind regards,
 Maren

Am 31.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Brynn:
 No, I'm not editing the gallery.  I've transferred the new faq content to 
 live site, and now
I'm fixing all the links.  (not published yet)  Maren had loaded all the
share/example files into the gallery, a while ago.  I wanted to link to
some of them in the faq.  (I think you might have been ill when we
discussed, and she worked on it.)  So I think she thought it would be
nicer to have them in the gallery, rather than direct people how to look
them up in their own systems (because we would have to give directions
for all the kinds of systems).

 So I was just asking if there is a way to link to one of those images,
using the plug-in.  I know how to link to the gallery, using the
plug-in, but not to a specific image.

 Thanks  :-)

 --
 From: Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:31 AM
 To: Brynn br...@frii.com
 Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!

 On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery
 (examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can
 they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.

 They can be made with links.

 Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms page,
 it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)

 Martin,



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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 15:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
 https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/ , are svgz, and can't be
 displayed directly. I had added a thumbnail as a replacement for the
 item view, but it is only used in the Inkspace overview, and not
 displayed in item view any longer. Do you know why?

That sounds like a bug report :-)

Martin,


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Brynn
Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery 
(examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can they be 
made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.

Thanks again  :-)

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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:02 PM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com
Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs 
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!

 On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 19:58 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 What about when the span id is in a list item?  Does li
 id=whatever.../li work?

 Those don't need to be touched. Thats the part that will be replaced
 entirely by the plugin.

 Martin,
 

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery 
 (examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can
 they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.

They can be made with links.

Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms page,
it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)

Martin,


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Brynn
 I just started on the Learn page, and ran into the same thing, with the 
 official tutorials.  They
 don't seem to have a listing in the dropdown either.  Should I do the
 same thing with them?

 - - Correct.

Oh, and that was such a simple plan!  Leave it to me to find an anomaly. 
There doesn't seem to be any /en in the url of the tutorials.  Example: 
https://inkscape.org/doc/basic/tutorial-basic.html

Should I still use the plug-in, but put the url in as is?

Thanks again  :-)

--
From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:08 AM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
Cc: Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!


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 Hi Brynn,

 no need to apologize, I only explained, so other people who read this
 will know what it's about.

 So just to be clear,  you want me to use the plug-in, but take the /en 
 out of the url?

 - - Yes, that would be good..

 I just started on the Learn page, and ran into the same thing, with the 
 official tutorials.  They
 don't seem to have a listing in the dropdown either.  Should I do the
 same thing with them?

 - - Correct.

 We may need to check those links regularly and keep our eyes open for
 users reporting dead links - but right now, this is the only option we
 have to link to pictures from a gallery without putting the full gallery
 plugin there.

 Regards,
 Maren

 Thanks  :-)

 --
 From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:50 AM
 To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
 Cc: Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!


 Hi Brynn,

 the links to the example files, which are not easily accessible to Mac
 users because of the structure of their Inkscape program file, can be
 turned into plugin links.

 It was about accessibility, not about it 'being nicer' ;) People who
 don't have Inkscape installed can then also take a look, which isn't
 bad, as some of those demonstrate the various filters.

 You can link to them like this: https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/
 (take out the /en from the url, please, that way they will automatically
 redirect to the language the user chose). It is not currently possible
 to select them from the dropdown list.

 Thanks!

 @Martin: some of the files in that examples Inkspace
 (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/3506/), like this one:
 https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/ , are svgz, and can't be
 displayed directly. I had added a thumbnail as a replacement for the
 item view, but it is only used in the Inkspace overview, and not
 displayed in item view any longer. Do you know why?


 Kind regards,
 Maren

 Am 31.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Brynn:
  No, I'm not editing the gallery.  I've transferred the new faq
 content to live site, and now
 I'm fixing all the links.  (not published yet)  Maren had loaded all the
 share/example files into the gallery, a while ago.  I wanted to link to
 some of them in the faq.  (I think you might have been ill when we
 discussed, and she worked on it.)  So I think she thought it would be
 nicer to have them in the gallery, rather than direct people how to look
 them up in their own systems (because we would have to give directions
 for all the kinds of systems).
 
  So I was just asking if there is a way to link to one of those 
  images,
 using the plug-in.  I know how to link to the gallery, using the
 plug-in, but not to a specific image.
 
  Thanks  :-)
 
  --
  From: Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:31 AM
  To: Brynn br...@frii.com
  Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs
 inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!
 
  On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
  Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery
  (examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/). 
  Can
  they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.
 
  They can be made with links.
 
  Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms
 page,
  it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)
 
  Martin,
 
 





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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Maren Hachmann

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Hey, Brynn,

no adaptation is needed for those for English. The docs directory does
feature some other languages, and they have different links, but that
does only concern the translators, and not the English version of the
web site.

Maren

Am 31.01.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Brynn:
 I just started on the Learn page, and ran into the same thing, with the 
 official tutorials.  They
 don't seem to have a listing in the dropdown either.  Should I do the
 same thing with them?

 - - Correct.

 Oh, and that was such a simple plan!  Leave it to me to find an
anomaly. There doesn't seem to be any /en in the url of the tutorials. 
Example: https://inkscape.org/doc/basic/tutorial-basic.html

 Should I still use the plug-in, but put the url in as is?

 Thanks again  :-)

 --
 From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:08 AM
 To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
 Cc: Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!


 Hi Brynn,

 no need to apologize, I only explained, so other people who read this
 will know what it's about.

  So just to be clear,  you want me to use the plug-in, but take the
/en out of the url?

 - Yes, that would be good..

  I just started on the Learn page, and ran into the same thing,
with the official tutorials.  They
 don't seem to have a listing in the dropdown either.  Should I do the
 same thing with them?

 - Correct.

 We may need to check those links regularly and keep our eyes open for
 users reporting dead links - but right now, this is the only option we
 have to link to pictures from a gallery without putting the full gallery
 plugin there.

 Regards,
 Maren

  Thanks  :-)
 
  --
  From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:50 AM
  To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
  Cc: Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!
 
 
  Hi Brynn,
 
  the links to the example files, which are not easily accessible to Mac
  users because of the structure of their Inkscape program file, can be
  turned into plugin links.
 
  It was about accessibility, not about it 'being nicer' ;) People who
  don't have Inkscape installed can then also take a look, which isn't
  bad, as some of those demonstrate the various filters.
 
  You can link to them like this:
https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/
  (take out the /en from the url, please, that way they will
automatically
  redirect to the language the user chose). It is not currently possible
  to select them from the dropdown list.
 
  Thanks!
 
  @Martin: some of the files in that examples Inkspace
  (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/3506/), like this one:
  https://inkscape.org/gallery/item/2312/ , are svgz, and can't be
  displayed directly. I had added a thumbnail as a replacement for the
  item view, but it is only used in the Inkspace overview, and not
  displayed in item view any longer. Do you know why?
 
 
  Kind regards,
  Maren
 
  Am 31.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Brynn:
   No, I'm not editing the gallery.  I've transferred the new faq
 content to live site, and now
  I'm fixing all the links.  (not published yet)  Maren had loaded
all the
  share/example files into the gallery, a while ago.  I wanted to
link to
  some of them in the faq.  (I think you might have been ill when we
  discussed, and she worked on it.)  So I think she thought it would be
  nicer to have them in the gallery, rather than direct people how
to look
  them up in their own systems (because we would have to give directions
  for all the kinds of systems).
  
   So I was just asking if there is a way to link to one of those
 images,
  using the plug-in.  I know how to link to the gallery, using the
  plug-in, but not to a specific image.
  
   Thanks  :-)
  
   --
   From: Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:31 AM
   To: Brynn br...@frii.com
   Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs
  inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!
  
   On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
   Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the
gallery
   (examples, such as
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can
   they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.
  
   They can be made with links.
  
   Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms
 page,
   it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)
  
   Martin,
  
  
 
 
 
 




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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-31 Thread Brynn
No, I'm not editing the gallery.  I've transferred the new faq content to 
live site, and now I'm fixing all the links.  (not published yet)  Maren had 
loaded all the share/example files into the gallery, a while ago.  I wanted 
to link to some of them in the faq.  (I think you might have been ill when 
we discussed, and she worked on it.)  So I think she thought it would be 
nicer to have them in the gallery, rather than direct people how to look 
them up in their own systems (because we would have to give directions for 
all the kinds of systems).

So I was just asking if there is a way to link to one of those images, using 
the plug-in.  I know how to link to the gallery, using the plug-in, but not 
to a specific image.

Thanks  :-)

--
From: Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:31 AM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com
Cc: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de; Inkscape-Docs 
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!

 On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 01:06 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 Another detail.  What about links to specific image in the gallery
 (examples, such as https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2312/).  Can
 they be made with plug-in?  Or should I leave as a href.

 They can be made with links.

 Are you editing the gallery page? Because that's not really a cms page,
 it's a gallery listing plugin... which I should fix ;-)

 Martin,
 

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-30 Thread Brynn
Ok, I can do that.

What does Table Of Contents plug-in do?  I got the messages about it, but 
didn't understand them.

brynn

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 Hi Brynn,

 you could do one thing before you move the FAQ over:
 (test first if everything still works when you make this change)

 Turn all

 h2span id=some_id/span/h2

 below the current table of contents in the FAQ into

 h2 id=some_id.../h2

 (or whatever heading level it is, could also be h3, h4), so remove the
 span tags, and put the ids into the heading tag.

 This is in preparation for the new Table-Of-Contents-Plugin, which only
 extracts ids from headings, not from spans. I just tested it ;)

 Good night,
 Regards,
 Maren

 Am 31.01.2015 um 02:17 schrieb Brynn:
 Ok, now that 0.91 is ready, I'll be transferring the content from my new 
 Community, Learn, and FAQ
 pages to the live site, and start fixing the links.  I won't publish
 until I have all the links fixed.  But, before I get too far into the
 faq, I just want to make sure you don't want me to fix the id links.

 Thanks,
 brynn


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-30 Thread Brynn
2nd reply

What about when the span id is in a list item?  Does li 
id=whatever.../li work?

Thanks again  :-)

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From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 6:28 PM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com; Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com; 
Inkscape-Docs inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: time to finish my new pages now!


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 Hi Brynn,

 you could do one thing before you move the FAQ over:
 (test first if everything still works when you make this change)

 Turn all

 h2span id=some_id/span/h2

 below the current table of contents in the FAQ into

 h2 id=some_id.../h2

 (or whatever heading level it is, could also be h3, h4), so remove the
 span tags, and put the ids into the heading tag.

 This is in preparation for the new Table-Of-Contents-Plugin, which only
 extracts ids from headings, not from spans. I just tested it ;)

 Good night,
 Regards,
 Maren

 Am 31.01.2015 um 02:17 schrieb Brynn:
 Ok, now that 0.91 is ready, I'll be transferring the content from my new 
 Community, Learn, and FAQ
 pages to the live site, and start fixing the links.  I won't publish
 until I have all the links fixed.  But, before I get too far into the
 faq, I just want to make sure you don't want me to fix the id links.

 Thanks,
 brynn


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 19:58 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 What about when the span id is in a list item?  Does li 
 id=whatever.../li work?

Those don't need to be touched. Thats the part that will be replaced
entirely by the plugin.

Martin,


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Re: [Inkscape-docs] time to finish my new pages now!

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 20:10 -0700, Brynn wrote:
 So the Table of Contents plug-in is somehow going to do something to the 
 faq?

Yes, so when it's deployed, it'll replace the manual table of contents
html with a single plugin object which will generate all that html for
us.

Martin,


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