Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Ok, since there haven't been any further comments, I've published the Report Bugs page with the new text. Thanks for everyone's help! All best, brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:11 PM To: docto...@gmail.com ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Ok, I had forwarded the email thread to Patrick, and he replied to me privately. (maybe he isn't subscribed to the Docs list, I'm not sure) We're thinking that unless Martin has some specific use for the side panel, which I (or we) haven't been able to imagine yet, we'll just go back to the Normal template. If no other comments or changes, I'll go ahead and replace the current page with the new one, using Normal template. Thanks everyone :-) brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:05 PM To: docto...@gmail.com ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Oh ok, I just re-read your first message. > > I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been > > very > > useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the > > main > > left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make > > it > > easy to quickly move. So "action buttons". I'm not sure how that could work. For the first section (Before you file a new bug report), there could be a button to search the bug tracker. But there would not be any way to make a button for the user to test the bug in a new blank file after resetting prefs. Plus, if we put them into the bug tracker with the first step, users in a hurry will never come back and finish reading the page. For the 2nd section (what the report Must contain) - if there were some kind of button which would collect the Inkscape version and operating system, that might work. But I don't know of any way to put that into a button. Not unless it contains some kind of script that queries the user's system. (which would probably be blocked with a lot of users' security) And of course there's no way to "buttonize" writing the description. Is there something I'm not seeing, still? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant the table of contents. Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing one will give me an idea what to do. If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, I could just create another page, and move the contents over. Thanks, brynn -----Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > which was > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > offline > since my > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > working on > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > security > issue). > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > go > through the > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > issue or > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > S
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Ok, I had forwarded the email thread to Patrick, and he replied to me privately. (maybe he isn't subscribed to the Docs list, I'm not sure) We're thinking that unless Martin has some specific use for the side panel, which I (or we) haven't been able to imagine yet, we'll just go back to the Normal template. If no other comments or changes, I'll go ahead and replace the current page with the new one, using Normal template. Thanks everyone :-) brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:05 PM To: docto...@gmail.com ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Oh ok, I just re-read your first message. > > I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been > > very > > useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the > > main > > left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make > > it > > easy to quickly move. So "action buttons". I'm not sure how that could work. For the first section (Before you file a new bug report), there could be a button to search the bug tracker. But there would not be any way to make a button for the user to test the bug in a new blank file after resetting prefs. Plus, if we put them into the bug tracker with the first step, users in a hurry will never come back and finish reading the page. For the 2nd section (what the report Must contain) - if there were some kind of button which would collect the Inkscape version and operating system, that might work. But I don't know of any way to put that into a button. Not unless it contains some kind of script that queries the user's system. (which would probably be blocked with a lot of users' security) And of course there's no way to "buttonize" writing the description. Is there something I'm not seeing, still? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant the table of contents. Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing one will give me an idea what to do. If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, I could just create another page, and move the contents over. Thanks, brynn -----Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > which was > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > offline > since my > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > working on > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > security > issue). > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > go > through the > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > issue or > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > we > try and > figure out what went wrong first? > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > Contents from > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > isn't it? > > Thanks, > brynn > > > -Origina
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Oh ok, I just re-read your first message. > > I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been > > very > > useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the > > main > > left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make > > it > > easy to quickly move. So "action buttons". I'm not sure how that could work. For the first section (Before you file a new bug report), there could be a button to search the bug tracker. But there would not be any way to make a button for the user to test the bug in a new blank file after resetting prefs. Plus, if we put them into the bug tracker with the first step, users in a hurry will never come back and finish reading the page. For the 2nd section (what the report Must contain) - if there were some kind of button which would collect the Inkscape version and operating system, that might work. But I don't know of any way to put that into a button. Not unless it contains some kind of script that queries the user's system. (which would probably be blocked with a lot of users' security) And of course there's no way to "buttonize" writing the description. Is there something I'm not seeing, still? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant the table of contents. Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing one will give me an idea what to do. If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, I could just create another page, and move the contents over. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Thanks, > brynn > > -----Original Message----- From: brynn > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > which was > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > offline > since my > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > working on > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > security > issue). > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > go > through the > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > issue or > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > we > try and > figure out what went wrong first? > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > Contents from > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > isn't it? > > Thanks, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a > bit, > when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still > there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal > template. > > What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? > > Maren > > Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: > > I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's > > what I > > wa
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Ooh, so you're thinking to put the main steps in the side panel, with descriptions in the rest of the page? Or are you thinking about some sort of graphic for each step? (I can actually imagine a cartoon of nerd with pencil and paper, who sees a bug crawl across the paper he's drawing on (or maybe a computer screen) who freaks out, whacks it with a fly swatter, and it ends with the nerd looking all self-satisfied and happy. And then we would have the text for each step connected with each frame. I'm certainly no artistbut it would make for a pretty cool page!) But that's a lot more work, while we need this new page fairly quickly (since I realized the Help menu connects directly to it, and it doesn't function properly in that role, as it is). Patrick had another idea along that same line. He had suggested the main steps, and then sort of hiding the descriptions under an expand/contract triangle button labeled "Details". I guess I would not want stuff hidden, because people in a hurry won't bother to open it. But anyway, I'm happy to make the page, as long as it's something I'm capable of doing. Exactly how it's done is not important to me. The most important thing is that it's very easy to read, very clear, yet having all the important points. I would be happy with either the Normal Template (first draft) or Table of Contents template (2nd draft). I'm not sure how the side panel would be an improvement, unless I'm just not seeing what Martin is thinking. I guess at this point, we need some input from Patrick (who has been busy, but will eventually catch up). All best, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:08 PM To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant the table of contents. Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing one will give me an idea what to do. If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, I could just create another page, and move the contents over. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > which was > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > offline > since my > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > working on > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > security > issue). > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > go > through the > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > issue or > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > we > try and > figure out what went wrong first? > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > Contents from > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > isn't it? > > Thanks, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a > bit, > when I visited it and it was
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Hi Brynn, An example page would be the sponsors page: https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/sponsors/ Martin, On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant > the table of > contents. > > Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's > supposed to look > like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing > one will > give me an idea what to do. > > If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, > I could > just create another page, and move the contents over. > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- > From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into > my > inbox... > > A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new > template > for the page. > > Page > Templates > Side Bar Page > > I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. > > Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again > (changing back might restore it). > > Maren > > Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, > > which was > > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been > > offline > > since my > > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > > working on > > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected > > security > > issue). > > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't > > go > > through the > > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security > > issue or > > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should > > we > > try and > > figure out what went wrong first? > > > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > > Contents from > > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > > isn't it? > > > > Thanks, > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a > > bit, > > when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still > > there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal > > template. > > > > What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? > > > > Maren > > > > Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: > > > I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's > > > what I > > > was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it > > > into the > > > already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal > > > Page, I > > > might need some help with that. > > > > > > I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe > > > Patrick > > > knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't > > > happen > > > immediately, either way. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com > > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM > > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > > > > > Hi Brynn, > > > > > > The content to the page looks good overall. > > > > > > CMS wise, the pag
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
I'm not sure if I know what a sidebar page is. I thought he meant the table of contents. Well I see how to make such a page, but I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Do you know any pages which use that template? Maybe seeing one will give me an idea what to do. If there's a chance that changing the template will cause a problem, I could just create another page, and move the contents over. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:03 AM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, which was shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been offline since my last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was working on the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected security issue). A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't go through the first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security issue or notor if that could have erased the edit mode. Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should we try and figure out what went wrong first? Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of Contents from the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" isn't it? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal template. What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? Maren Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I might need some help with that. I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen immediately, either way. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: Hi Friends, As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" message which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs to be included in the bug report, details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 04 and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a Bug goes directly to the Report Bugs page of the website (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a function (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have overhauled that page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, before setting it live. Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the top would be removed before going "live"): https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Purposely,
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Sorry, that intermediate email that's quoted below never made it into my inbox... A page with a side panel can be selected when you select a new template for the page. Page > Templates > Side Bar Page I don't know what Martin meant to put into the side bar. Might be that changing the template will loose the contents again (changing back might restore it). Maren Am 26.07.2018 um 05:56 schrieb brynn: > Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, which was > shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! > > No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been offline > since my > last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. > > There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was > working on > the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected security > issue). > A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't go > through the > first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security issue or > notor if that could have erased the edit mode. > > Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should we > try and > figure out what went wrong first? > > Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of > Contents from > the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" > isn't it? > > Thanks, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM > To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, > when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still > there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal > template. > > What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? > > Maren > > Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: >> I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I >> was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the >> already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I >> might need some help with that. >> >> I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick >> knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen >> immediately, either way. >> >> Thanks, >> brynn >> >> -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com >> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM >> To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page >> >> Hi Brynn, >> >> The content to the page looks good overall. >> >> CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar >> Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it >> will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. >> >> I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very >> useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main >> left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it >> easy to quickly move. >> >> Best Regards, Martin Owens >> >> On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: >>> Hi Friends, >>> As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" >>> message >>> which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs >>> to be >>> included in the bug report, >>> >>> details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 >>> 04 >>> >>> and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a >>> Bug goes >>> directly to the Report Bugs page of the website >>> (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) >>> >>> which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a >>> function >>> (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have >>> overhauled that >>> page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website tea
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Ok, did I do the table of contents template correctly? https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:39 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, which was shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been offline since my last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was working on the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected security issue). A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't go through the first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security issue or notor if that could have erased the edit mode. Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should we try and figure out what went wrong first? Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of Contents from the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" isn't it? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal template. What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? Maren Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I might need some help with that. I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen immediately, either way. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: Hi Friends, As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" message which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs to be included in the bug report, details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 04 and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a Bug goes directly to the Report Bugs page of the website (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a function (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have overhauled that page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, before setting it live. Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the top would be removed before going "live"): https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to at least skim through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. Thanks, brynn (and Patrick) PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of inspirational "thank you" sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for contributing to Inkscape" or something?? --- --- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot __
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
OMG! I don't know what happened. The last time I looked at it, which was shortly before I sent the original message, everything was fine! No, I did not try to change the template. I've actually been offline since my last reply, so I have no idea what might have happened. There was some kind of problem with the site, during the time I was working on the page (when emails had been disabled, because of a suspected security issue). A couple of times, I had to try twice to publish, where it didn't go through the first time. I don't know if that would be related to the security issue or notor if that could have erased the edit mode. Should I go ahead and replace the contents in Edit mode? Or should we try and figure out what went wrong first? Just to make sure I do the right thing, I need to choose Table of Contents from the dropdown menu, right? That's what Martin means by "side panel" isn't it? Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal template. What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? Maren Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I might need some help with that. I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen immediately, either way. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: Hi Friends, As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" message which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs to be included in the bug report, details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 04 and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a Bug goes directly to the Report Bugs page of the website (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a function (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have overhauled that page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, before setting it live. Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the top would be removed before going "live"): https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to at least skim through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. Thanks, brynn (and Patrick) PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of inspirational "thank you" sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for contributing to Inkscape" or something?? --- --- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.or
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
The page seems to be empty right now in edit mode (I was shocked a bit, when I visited it and it was empty - in published mode, it's still there, just made a copy, just in case...), but it's using a Normal template. What happened? Was the contents lost on changing the template? Maren Am 22.07.2018 um 16:12 schrieb brynn: > I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I > was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the > already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I > might need some help with that. > > I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick > knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen > immediately, either way. > > Thanks, > brynn > > -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page > > Hi Brynn, > > The content to the page looks good overall. > > CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar > Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it > will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. > > I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very > useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main > left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it > easy to quickly move. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: >> Hi Friends, >> As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" >> message >> which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs >> to be >> included in the bug report, >> >> details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 >> 04 >> >> and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a >> Bug goes >> directly to the Report Bugs page of the website >> (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) >> >> which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a >> function >> (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have >> overhauled that >> page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, >> before setting >> it live. >> >> Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the >> top would be >> removed before going "live"): >> >> https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ >> >> Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to at >> least skim >> through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. >> >> Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. >> >> Thanks, >> brynn >> (and Patrick) >> >> PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of inspirational >> "thank you" >> sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for >> contributing to >> Inkscape" or something?? >> >> >> --- >> --- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ___ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > > > -- > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
I thought it was using the Normal Page template. At least that's what I was trying to do. I was just going to copy that and paste it into the already existing page, overwriting it. If it's not the Normal Page, I might need some help with that. I would definitely need help with the sidebar layout. Maybe Patrick knows how? He said he'd be busy this week, so moving it won't happen immediately, either way. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: docto...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:59 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: Hi Friends, As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" message which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs to be included in the bug report, details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 04 and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a Bug goes directly to the Report Bugs page of the website (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a function (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have overhauled that page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, before setting it live. Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the top would be removed before going "live"): https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to at least skim through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. Thanks, brynn (and Patrick) PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of inspirational "thank you" sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for contributing to Inkscape" or something?? --- --- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] major update to Report Bugs page
Hi Brynn, The content to the page looks good overall. CMS wise, the page should use either the Normal Page, or the Sidebar Page as the template. This is because we can't see for sure what it will look like with an 'inherit' setting which picks a blank page. I'd also encourage the use of the sidebar template as it's been very useful for functional pages where detailed content goes in the main left side part and action buttons go on the right sidebar to make it easy to quickly move. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 04:05 -0600, brynn wrote: > Hi Friends, > As a result of my comment and concern about a long "warning" > message > which was meant to remind bug reporters about what kind of info needs > to be > included in the bug report, > > details here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/17744 > 04 > > and also, it was the first time I realized that Help menu > Report a > Bug goes > directly to the Report Bugs page of the website > (https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/report-bugs/) > > which in it's current state does not really perform as that kind of a > function > (it's more informational than instructional), Patrick and I have > overhauled that > page. We wanted to put the proposed change to the website team, > before setting > it live. > > Here's the proposed new page (of course the red text at the > top would be > removed before going "live"): > > https://inkscape.org/en/report-bugs-2-edit/ > > Purposely, the link to LP is at the bottom, to force users to at > least skim > through the bolded requirements before starting the new report. > > Any comments, suggestions, etc. are welcomed. > > Thanks, > brynn > (and Patrick) > > PS - Just realized we probably should put some kind of inspirational > "thank you" > sentence at the bottom. "Thank you and congratulations for > contributing to > Inkscape" or something?? > > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
