[PHP-DEV] PHP-8.0 End of Life

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hi, all!

According to the Supported Versions page (https://php.net/supported-versions)
(and our release process documentation), active support for PHP-8.0 ended
on Jan 1st 2024.

This means PHP 8.0.30 was the last security-fix release for the 8.0 series.

All users are highly encouraged to check the Supported Versions page, and
upgrade to a maintained and support version of PHP.

I take this opportunity to thanks Sara, and all the other Release Managers,
that supported me these years contributing to PHP - I could have not make
it without you all!

All the best, and stay safe!

Gabriel Caruso
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/carusogabriel

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.29 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.29. This is a security fix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are advised to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.29 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: https://php.net/releases/8_0_29.php
Downloads: https://php.net/downloads#v8.0.29
Windows downloads: https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0
Changelog: https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#PHP_8_0
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/23a65f8c273d1ebedececeba1f60a416> and
below;

Thanks to everyone that worked on getting the security patch ready for
today.

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.28 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.28. This is a security-fix release that addresses CVE-2023-0567,
CVE-2023-0568, and CVE-2023-0662.

All PHP 8.0 users are advised to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.28 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_28.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.28>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/9c6b2d83b4a616c0babf595f4ecc6262>

Many thanks to everyone that worked on getting the security patches ready
for today.,

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.27 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.27. This is a security-fix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.27, please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_27.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads: <https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.27>
Release Manifest:  <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/7ab605a8db8bf79d162693f7a46181ee>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

PS: On behalf of Sara and myself, we would like to apologize for not
announcing PHP 8.0.26, we both had personal problems which didn't allow us
to get online and do it.

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.25 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.25. This is a security fix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.25 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_25.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.25>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/b59d6f1075281fabd4732beac47da27c>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.25RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.25RC1 has just been released and is available via:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.25RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/8b4a9ea482b40d7eb5e05d82cfd12515

8.0.25 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Oct 27th 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.23RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.23RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.23RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/a60bf45b864c42c88e44f64753cbed3a

8.0.23 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Sep 1st 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

php-8.0.23RC1.tar.gz
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.22 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.22. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.2 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_22.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.22>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/c9c6dca833bf132d4421158a351e2525>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.22RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.22RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.22RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/180c8cde4b28938c176511beafb1ecdd

8.0.22 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Aug 4th 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.21 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.21. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.21 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_21.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.21>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/88be308c22ce703820990d17cdce7c5a>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

And a special thanks - for this release specific - to everyone that noticed
a severe regression during QA, let the Release Managers know, and act on
reverting it before reaching the end-users and causing a lot of damage!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.21RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.21RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.21RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/9300c734f38180557bcfeccb887b9597

8.0.21 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Jul 9 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

php-8.0.21RC1.tar.gz
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.19 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.19. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.X please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_19.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.19>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/c688799936429ec15061bb2583f57728>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.19RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.19RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.19RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues <http://github.com/php/php-src/issues>
.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/a81c9b70fa177447a4cc338dc87a1549
<https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/a81c9b70fa177447a4cc338dc87a1549>

8.0.19 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on May 12 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.17 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.17. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.17 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_17.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.17>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/4886a6b7778feb1e4f4e4d66bb8d6225>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.17RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.17RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.17RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
http://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/150db75ca28b2a3f4a03015d2ae6a672

8.0.17 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Mar 17th 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.15 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.15. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.15 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_15.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.15>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/029c357268c1836104d99655642b596b>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.15RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.15RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.15RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs to
http://github.com/php/php-src/issues.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/703f7228db211d5a1127bdca24735da9

8.0.15 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Jan 20th 2022.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.12 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.12. This is a security fix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.12 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_12.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.12>
Release Manifest: <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/6ff51a8439014e0e1f8fb2c0fb3edd4f>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.12RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.12RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

http://downloads.php.net/~krakjoe/ (Thanks Joe!)

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.12RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/c0cc941cada6051bdb659be50f1e600d

8.0.12 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on October 21st 2021.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon


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[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 8.0.10 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 13:04, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
> 8.0.X. This is a security fix release.
>

PHP 8.0.10, ops.


>
> All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.
>
> For source downloads of PHP 8.0.10 please visit our downloads page.
> Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
> The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.
>
> Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_10.php>
> Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
> Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
> Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.10>
> Release Manifest:<
> https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/8f0196195b1c4d8e2b20fa264b94f8dd>
>
> Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!
>
> Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon
>
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.10 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.X. This is a security fix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.10 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_10.php>
Downloads:<https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog:<https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.10>
Release Manifest:<
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/8f0196195b1c4d8e2b20fa264b94f8dd>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Guidelines for RFC post feature-freeze

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 23:07 Gabriel Caruso, 
wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 22:49 Deleu,  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> We recently had the Nullable Intersection Types RFC process in an
>> unconventional way starting a new RFC post feature freeze. If memory
>> serves
>> me right, another similar incident happened with the Attributes RFC which
>> had a syntax that could not be implemented without a secondary RFC [1] and
>> went through a secondary RFC which proposed a different syntax [2].
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
>> [2] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2
>>
>> I would like to gather opinion on a potential Policy RFC that would define
>> some guidelines for such a process. As Nikita pointed out [3], the ability
>> to refine new features is both important for the developer and
>> undocumented
>> for the PHP Project.
>>
>> In order to not be empty-handed, I started a gist that can be seen as the
>> starting point for this discussion, available at
>> https://gist.github.com/deleugpn/9d0e285f13f0b4fdcfc1d650b20c3105.
>>
>> Generally speaking, I'm first looking for feedback on whether this is
>> something that deserves attention and an RFC or is it so rare that it's
>> fine to leave it unchanged. If there is interest in moving forward, I
>> would
>> then also be interested in suggestions on things that should be
>> included/excluded in the RFC.
>>
>> Marco Aurélio Deleu
>
>
>>
>> Thank you for being this one up, and yes: we should be a little bit more
>> strict with stuff coming in, post feature freeze period!
>
>
Bringing*, writing is difficult.


> In PHP 8.0, Sara and I had the same problem :(
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Guidelines for RFC post feature-freeze

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 22:49 Deleu,  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> We recently had the Nullable Intersection Types RFC process in an
> unconventional way starting a new RFC post feature freeze. If memory serves
> me right, another similar incident happened with the Attributes RFC which
> had a syntax that could not be implemented without a secondary RFC [1] and
> went through a secondary RFC which proposed a different syntax [2].
>
> [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
> [2] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2
>
> I would like to gather opinion on a potential Policy RFC that would define
> some guidelines for such a process. As Nikita pointed out [3], the ability
> to refine new features is both important for the developer and undocumented
> for the PHP Project.
>
> In order to not be empty-handed, I started a gist that can be seen as the
> starting point for this discussion, available at
> https://gist.github.com/deleugpn/9d0e285f13f0b4fdcfc1d650b20c3105.
>
> Generally speaking, I'm first looking for feedback on whether this is
> something that deserves attention and an RFC or is it so rare that it's
> fine to leave it unchanged. If there is interest in moving forward, I would
> then also be interested in suggestions on things that should be
> included/excluded in the RFC.
>
> Marco Aurélio Deleu


>
> Thank you for being this one up, and yes: we should be a little bit more
> strict with stuff coming in, post feature freeze period!


In PHP 8.0, Sara and I had the same problem :(

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.10RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.10RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/ (thanks Derick for uploading
everything)

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.10RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/55774ce6c5d39698719c2f8a6de65284

8.0.10 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on August 26th 2021.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Shut down gcov.php.net

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, 4 Aug 2021, 14:25 Christoph M. Becker,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I suggest to shut down  altogether.  It is barely
> maintained for quite a while: PHP 7.4 builds are failing, and there are
> no PHP 8.0 builds at all.  We already run a coverage job on Azure[1], so
> there is no *need* for this site anymore, and we can't spent our time on
> more useful things.
>
> See also .
>
> Any objections?
>
> [1] 
>
> --
> Christoph M. Becker
>
> --
> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>
>
As the author of the bug, I've gotta say: yes, let's do it!


Thanks for taking care of this one!

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.9 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.9. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.9 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_9.php>
Downloads: <https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:  <https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog: <https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.9>
Release Manifest:   <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/7492c03c31fcfffda2b4b5d2b0b4f376>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.8 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.8. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.8 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_8.php>
Downloads: <https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:  <https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog: <https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.8>
Release Manifest:   <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/b6833d26731a1f7c46daa35a492fd97a>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.8RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.8RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:
https://downloads.php.net/~pollita/ (thanks Sara for uploading everything)
Or use the git tag: php-8.0.8RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net
8.0.8 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on July 1st 2021.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/0e61cfc58efd2bd4932eff9ec79730b1

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Final constants

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sun, 16 May 2021, 15:52 Máté Kocsis,  wrote:

> As I've fully finished the implementation, I intend to bring this to a vote
> on Wednesday if no new concerns come up (besides the usual question about
> the usefulness of the feature).
>
> Máté


Interesting RFC Maté, thanks for bringing it.

How would we know if a given constant is overwritable?

Would we need something like `ReflectionConstant::isOverwritable()`?

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.5 Released

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.5. This is a bugfix release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.5 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.

Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_5.php>
Downloads: <https://php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:  <https://windows.php.net/download#php-8.0>
Changelog: <https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.5>
Release Manifest:   <
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/6dc68ec66bc210bd1bca37b02deb1464>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Unable to log in to wiki.php.net

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, 16:59 Marco Pivetta,  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 16:56 Aleksander Machniak  wrote:
>
> > I was about to log in to vote on some RFCs, but I cannot log in. I reset
> > the password twice, the new passwords didn't work either.
> >
> > My username is 'alec'. Could someone verify that?
> >
>
> Similar issues here ✋
>

You need to reset it: https://externals.io/message/113981#113981 :)

>

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.5RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

(We are skipping the PHP 8.0.4 release in response to the Git server attack
we recently had. Instead of releasing it, we decided to move forward with
the 8.0.5 version to pack it up the fixes and improvements that were
already in place since that week.)

PHP 8.0.5RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/
Or use the git tag: php-8.0.5RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net
8.0.5 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on April 29th 2021.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/37af3a5ce81ddc46c0be400db2324996

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Changes to Git commit workflow

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021, 03:30 Rasmus Lerdorf,  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 17:15 Sara Golemon  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 6:57 PM Paul Crovella 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You might consider requiring commits be signed while you're at it.
> >>
> >>
> > I suggested this as well, and even if we don't require it, we should
> > STRONGLY encourage it.
> >
> > I've been signing my commits for several years now, it's not even that
> > hard.
> >
> I think for php-src commits we can require it. For doc and other repos we
> can make it optional for now until people are more comfortable with it.
>
> -Rasmus


>
> We can require Signed Commits for the main active branches on GitHub:
> https://docs.github.com/en/github/administering-a-repository/about-protected-branches#require-signed-commits


We can create rules that requires that for all active maintained version of
PHP.

We can set that per repo, or in a organization level.

- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 8.0.4RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 10:56, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> PHP 8.0.3RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:
> https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/
> Or use the git tag: php-8.0.3RC1
>


My bad, it should be php-8.0.4RC1, copy & pasta error :D


>
> Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0
>
> Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
> https://bugs.php.net
> 8.0.4 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on April 1st 2021.
>
> Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
> https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/51828354c38091417e16e25172664a45
>
> Thank you, and happy testing!
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon
>
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.4RC1 Available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.3RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/
Or use the git tag: php-8.0.3RC1

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net
8.0.4 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on April 1st 2021.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/51828354c38091417e16e25172664a45

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.2 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.2.  This is a security release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.2 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.


Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_2.php>
Downloads:<https://www.php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download>
Changelog:<https://www.php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.2>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Sara Golemon and Gabriel Caruso

Release Manifest here and below:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/a49d4b0cfe8cbc336cb93766f817cc3c

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[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 8.0.2RC1 is available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello Andrey!

PHP 8's new features are available at https://php.net/migration80 and
https://php.net/releases/8.0.

Each patch release only contains bug/security fixes. Last published release
is available at https://php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.1

PHP 8.0.2 is in RC phase, being released only in February, but you can have
a preview of it at https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-8.0.2/NEWS

Kind regards,

-- Gabriel Caruso


On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 02:01, Andrey Tomin  wrote:

> Hi where to read about new features?
>
> чт, 21 янв. 2021 г., 14:25 Gabriel Caruso :
>
>> PHP 8.0.2RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:
>>
>> <https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/>
>>
>> Or use the git tag: php-8.0.2RC1
>>
>> Windows binaries are available at: <https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0>
>>
>> Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system <
>> https://bugs.php.net>.
>> 8.0.2 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on February 4th 2021.
>>
>> Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
>> <https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/0159b43d4f233b98ebc0a192c504c8e3>.
>>
>> Thank you, and happy testing!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon
>>
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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.2RC1 is available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.2RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

<https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/>

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.2RC1

Windows binaries are available at: <https://windows.php.net/qa#php-8.0>

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system <
https://bugs.php.net>.
8.0.2 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on February 4th 2021.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
<https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/0159b43d4f233b98ebc0a192c504c8e3>.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP.net is down?

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 13:56, Patrick ALLAERT  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That is only the homepage.
> The rest of the site works fine.
>
> Could be related to the release of PHP 8.0.1 that happened a few minutes
> ago.
>
> Patrick
>
> Le jeu. 7 janv. 2021 à 17:49, David Rodrigues  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I cannot access php.net anymore. error 500.
> >
> >
> > Atenciosamente,
> > David Rodrigues
> >
>
>
> --
> Patrick Allaert
> ---
> http://code.google.com/p/peclapm/ - Alternative PHP Monitor
>

Was fixed by http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commit;h=511182cf, was my
fault after the PHP 8.0.1 release, I forgot a step :(

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.1 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 13:51, Patrick ALLAERT  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since a couple of minutes => 500 internal server error on the homepage of
> php.net.
> Would it be, by any chance, related?
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>

Should be fixed by http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commit;h=511182cf

My apologies, PHP 8.0.1 was my first patch release process, still need to
fix some stuff in my workflow. Thanks for reporting it!

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.1 Released!

[Gabriel Caruso]

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
8.0.1. This is a security release.

All PHP 8.0 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 8.0.1 please visit our downloads page.
Windows binaries can be found on the PHP for Windows site.
The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog.


Release Announcement: <https://php.net/releases/8_0_1.php>
Downloads:<https://www.php.net/downloads>
Windows downloads:<https://windows.php.net/download>
Changelog:<https://www.php.net/ChangeLog-8.php#8.0.1>

Many thanks to all the contributors and supporters!

Sara Golemon and Gabriel Caruso

Release Manifest here and below:
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/277fa09acd2734ec009294990b8d1f6e

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.1RC1 is available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.1RC1 has just been released and can be downloaded from:

<https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel/>

Or use the git tag: php-8.0.1RC1

Windows binaries are available at: <https://windows.php.net/qa/>

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system.
8.0.1 should be expected in 3 weeks, i.e. on January 7th 2021.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
<https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/462a55847a23a243f8b4208c77d9bdd9>.

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Gabriel Caruso & Sara Golemon

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[PHP-DEV] Tomorrow is an important day

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello internals!

I’d like to take a moment to reflect what will happen tomorrow with all of
you and how that is important to me and I’d say, to everyone: PHP 8.0.0 is
going to be released, YES!

PHP 8.0 was the first PHP version that I had the opportunity, pleasure and
time to follow its development from beginning to end. Not only that, I had
the honour to be voted as one of its Release Managers. I first heard of PHP
a couple of years ago, and being able to help release its new major version
this year is, by far, one of the most honourable things that ever happened
to me.

I won’t spend time talking about how much stuff we have changed and
introduced in PHP 8.0, you can go ahead and Google for talks, blogs,
documents and much more about it. Let’s get that and spread the word
outside of our community, everyone needs to know how great PHP 8.0 is!

I won’t thank him, her or anyone in particular, I will thank everyone and
anyone that helped with this new version of PHP. Old schools, newbies,
Africans, Europeans, Americans, and of course our Asian community. Do we
have someone from Oceania or Antarctica that have contributed to PHP? I
think so, PHP is from everyone to anyone. Even known folks from PHP tools,
libraries and frameworks helped on this version, and it was beautiful to
see this bridge being built.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to attend tomorrow’s release party, as I’ll
be (literally) flying to Brazil. I wish all the best of luck to Sara and
everyone else that will be releasing it.

That’s all folks, tomorrow a new era of PHP starts and I can’t wait to see
what the future reserves for us! Stay safe, stay home, wear a mask once you
go out, and let’s finish 2020 on a high!

. Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 RC5 Ready for Testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0 RC5 has just been released and can be downloaded from
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0RC5`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

8.0.0 Release Candidate 5 was the last release before GA, scheduled for two
weeks, Nov 26th.

This was an unplanned release because of a third-party extension that found
a minor issue and wanted to test it before GA. The date for GA hasn't
changed!

Report anything that you have found to https:/bugs.php.net
<https://mail.google.com/bugs.php.net>, and check if your bug wasn't
reported already by taking a look into the opened PHP 8.0 bugs
<https://bugs.php.net/search.php?limit=30&order_by=id&direction=DESC&cmd=display&status=Open&bug_type=All&phpver=8.0&project=PHP>
.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/b5ddfc1e166bff3c4fa6db0e83352b95

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

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[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 RC4 Ready for Testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0 RC4 has just been released and can be downloaded from
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0RC4`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

8.0.0 Release Candidate 4 was the last release before GA, scheduled for two
weeks, Nov 26th.

Report anything that you have found to https:/bugs.php.net
<https://mail.google.com/bugs.php.net>

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/7c9f2bdb6349925ab6ae4b20558d07c7

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Rename PhpToken::getAll()?

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 10:10 Nikita Popov  wrote:

> Hi internals,
>
> Cross-posting from https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80328 to a place where
> someone might see it...
>
> The PhpToken::getAll() API introduced in PHP 8.0 is of course inspired by
> the existing token_get_all() function. But arguably, the name is not that
> great.
>
> The reporter suggests to rename it into PhpToken::tokenize() instead, which
> seems like a sensible suggestion to me.
>
> Any thoughts on doing that rename? It's pretty late in the release cycle,
> but if we want to rename something, this is our last chance :)
>
> Regards,
> Nikita
>
> PS: Because I know someone is going to suggest it: No, we will not
> introduce a separate PhpLexer class at this point in time.
>

Agreed, and as one of PHP 8.0 RM, I see no problem on doing this renaming,
just make sure to document it.

Naming stuff is hard, but it's never too late to improve it :)

>

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 RC3 Ready for Testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0 RC3 has just been released and can be downloaded from
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0RC3`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

8.0.0 Release Candidate 4 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Nov 12,
2020.

The time to test is now, we only have one more RC before the GA scheduled
to Nov 26!

Report anything that you have found to https:/bugs.php.net

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/700b7fafff4f50681d0f4d707da82a4f
<https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/700b7fafff4f50681d0f4d707da82a4f>

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 15:54, Roman Pronskiy 
wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 1:51 AM Gabriel Caruso
>  wrote:
> >
> > Roman,
> >
> > One question that I've received from a couple of communities about this
> proposal: can we have translations of this page? Portuguese, French,
> Russian, etc.
> >
>
> From a technical perspective, I assume it should be possible to reuse
> php.net/manual/ mechanism for translations.
>
> As for the texts, the only way we can finish translations by November
> 26 is if we get community help. Because JetBrains localization
> resources will be overwhelmed during this period. Alexander and I can
> do Russian. Do you think we can get help with other languages?
>
> -Roman
>


I can handle the Brazilian Portuguese one, send me the texts!

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 09:57, Roman Pronskiy 
wrote:

> Hello Internals,
>
> The PHP 8 release is going to be huge, and in some sense, you could
> say it's a whole new language. There is a feeling that more can be
> done to promote it more extensively.
>
> Usually for releases, there’s a short text announcement on php.net.
> This may be okay for minor releases and for people who are deeply
> involved in PHP as they already know about the new features. But for
> the majority of PHP developers and potential PHP developers, it is not
> enough.
>
> So, the idea is to create a separate release announcement landing page
> to achieve the following goals:
>
> – Promote the release of PHP 8 to the PHP developers
> – Promote PHP as a modern language, as well as the PHP 8 release, to
> the general tech audience
>
> Alexander Makarov, myself, and Svetlana Belozerova, a designer from
> JetBrains, have created the following concept:
> https://i.imgur.com/6fKmTyM.jpg
>
> We’d like to hear from you about how you like the idea. If you support
> it, we’ll finish the design and work on a PR against
> github.com/php/web-php with the implementation.
>
> Looking forward to hearing what you think.
>
> Roman Pronskiy,
> PMM at JetBrains
>
> --
> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php



Roman,

One question that I've received from a couple of communities about this
proposal: can we have translations of this page? Portuguese, French,
Russian, etc.

Best,

-- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 15:25, Larry Garfield  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> > What helps me when I spread the word is if there is a simple page that
> > will look good on a retweet/FB/LinkedIn page, with a couple of release
> > highlights.  It doesn't need to be fancy, but something that flashes a
> > big PHP 8.0 logo or some such as the image as part of the preview would
> > be quite nice.
> >
> > Eliot
>
>
> Apropos of this... where did the PHP 8 logo come from?  And is it safe to
> reuse elsewhere for PHP 8-related marketing without further authorization?
> What's the license on it and where can one get the original version?  (In
> SVG format, because all other logo formats are wrong.)
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
> --
> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>

AFAIK via https://twitter.com/Elroubio/status/1300843481829703681, more
specific https://www.donnedusens.fr/dwn/logo_php_8.zip.

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 branch out

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello internals

We've branched out the `PHP-8.0` branch:
http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/PHP-8.0

With that, `master` is now open for PHP 8.1 development (
http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=commit;h=14806e08).

Please remember to commit all the changes from the `PHP-8.0` branch to
`master`.

Kind regards,

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 Release Candidate 1 available for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0 RC 1 has just been released and can be downloaded from
https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0rc1`.

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the bug system:
https://bugs.php.net

8.0.0 Release Candidate 2 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Oct 15,
2020.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/cb6e1b957fff40fc1bc9425a01cf6e89

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 branch cut - The Return

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 14:29, Nikita Popov  wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:18 PM Remi Collet  wrote:
>
> > Le 29/09/2020 à 11:55, Máté Kocsis a écrit :
> >
> > > Personally, I think releasing RC1 is realistic now, since parameter
> > > names in the most important extensions (- ext/spl) have already been
> > > reviewed.
> >
> > I agree, nice to have "internal" API freezed, and released
> > to give extension maintainer enough time
> >
> > I think parameter names (public API) still can change in next RC
> > as named parameters are not yet widely used.
> >
> > If we choose for another beta, this probably means we'll have
> > to move GA date by 2 weeks (to keep same RC time, already reduced).
> >
>
> I'm also fine with doing the ABI freeze already now. I don't have any ABI
> impacting work planned, the attributes/strict_types changes were the last
> bit.
>
> In that case:
>  * Bump ABI numbers and tag RC1 today
>  * Continue working on parameter names afterwards
>  * Cut the PHP-8.0 branch sometime in the next two weeks
>
> Nikita
>

I'm gonna borrow Nikita's idea, and tag RC1 today without cutting the
PHP-8.0 branch.

Thanks everyone for your input.

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 branch cut - The Return

[Gabriel Caruso]

Following Sara's email a couple of weeks ago, I come this week with a
similar one:

Next Tuesday, Sep 29th, has been marked on our calendars as the branch date
for PHP-8.0 which would open master up for 8.1 targeted work.

This would mean that bug fixes would need to include PHP-8.0 in their merge
chain (meaning more work to merge 8.0 targeted fixes).

Please let Sara and I know how you feel about this date. We can see that
master is still quite active, especially with
https://github.com/php/php-tasks/issues/18 and
https://github.com/php/php-tasks/issues/16, and we don't wish to make the
work to stabilize
the 8.0 release any more difficult than it has to be.

Thanks,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Array recursion detection in PHP 8

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 14:38 Michael Wallner  wrote:

> On 23/09/2020 14:07, Michael Wallner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wondered about PHP 8 detecting recursion earlier than used to and what
> > caused that, respectively why it's caused. Compare the following output:
> >
> > https://3v4l.org/J7Niu
>
> Could it be that var_dump() was just adjusted to the output of print_r?
>
> https://3v4l.org/QVJS4
>
> Then, sorry for the noise... ;)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike
>


It was changed via https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5171.

>

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 Beta 3 is ready for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0 Beta 3 has just been released and can be
downloaded from https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0beta3`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in
the bug system: https://bugs.php.net

8.0.0 Release Candidate 1 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Sep 17,
2020.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/e95befa31ef171ad911e882d1b8c9f05

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

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Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO fetch performance problems with many bind parameters

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:19, Matteo Beccati  wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> /cc release managers - pls don't hate me ;-)
>
> On 27/08/2020 10:23, Matteo Beccati wrote:
> >
> > On 26/08/2020 19:28, G. P. B. wrote:
> >> This can still target PHP 8.0 as this seems to be akin to a bug this
> >> might even be applicable to PHP 7.3/7.4. Anyways, good catch.
> >
> > You could be right. I've created a draft PR for review: Dino could yo>
> please benchmark it and get back with results?> >
> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/6047
> The PR seems to fix the issue:
>
> https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80027
>
> Dino's bench script takes 3s on vanilla PHP8 and 120ms with the patch,
> so it's seems a fairly good win. The fetching part alone goes down from
> 2.9s to 3ms.
>
> The way it's been fixed should be backwards and forwards compatible with
> no real need to bump PDO_VERSION_API: external PDO driver extensions
> wanting to use the param_evt_skip flags could simply set them via a
> preprocessor macro when compiled for PHP8+.
>
> For now I've optimised the pdo_pgsql/mysql/sqlite extensions, but I will
> look into the other bundled ones too.
>
> Would you think it's sensible to treat this as a bug fix and target
> 7.3+? Or is it better to do PHP8 only? Or?
>
>
> Cheers
> --
> Matteo Beccati
>
> Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/



Hello Matteo

Let's have this patch merged into PHP 8.0 (`master` branch as of today), I
have nothing against it.

About PHPs 7.3 and 7.4: if the performance improvements are this massive as
describe in this email, I'm :+1: to have it on those versions as well.

Kind regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 15:12, Paul M. Jones  wrote:

> Hi everyone --
>
> 1. Did anyone else here get this message (below) from Derick yesterday?
>
> 2. Maybe I missed something -- why was the vote reset?
>

Yeah, you missed quite a lot.

Please, check https://externals.io/message/111630,
https://externals.io/message/111312, and https://externals.io/message/111416
.


>
> >
> > From: Derick Rethans 
> > Subject: Attribute Syntax Revote
> > Date: August 20, 2020 at 10:36:36 CDT
> > To: Derick Rethans 
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm reaching out because you had voted in the "New Attribute Syntax
> > Choice" poll. This poll has been *reset* and your original vote has been
> > discarded.
> >
> > The vote has now been restarted, so please indicate your choice again,
> > if you have not done so yet:
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax_change#voting
> >
> > Please note that there are now 6 options.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Derick
> >
>
> --
> Paul M. Jones
> pmjo...@pmjones.io
> http://paul-m-jones.com
>
> Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP
> https://leanpub.com/mlaphp
>
> Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP
> https://leanpub.com/sn1php
>
>
>
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Allow sleep() to accept non-integer values

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:55, Michael Voříšek - ČVUT FEL <
voris...@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:

> > Again, I personally don't understand why this could bypass the RFC
> process, as multiple people have already, me included, voiced their
> disagreement with this change.
>
> This was proposed by Nikita Popov in his comment
>

Nikita is just one of the members. If other members want an RFC, we need it.

Also, the PR has a couple of :-1: votes as well, which indicates that an
RFC is necessary.


>
> > Secondly this change introduces another inconsistency, why can sleep
> accept a float but not usleep?
>
> Nanosleep and microsleep functions are basically 1:1 of the underlaying
> implementation. The updated sleep() is however now never worse than the
> best sleep function available, thus we can use it also for
> time_nanosleep and usleep php function and accept float. I will
> implement it.
>
> > If there is indeed a need for being able to specify a sleep in
> milliseconds I'd prefer the introduction of a msleep function then this
> change.
>
> The issue I solve is sleep function that accepts seconds should accept
> floating point values as time is continous value.
>
> With kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / S přátelským pozdravem,
>
> Michael Voříšek
>
> On 20 Aug 2020 14:25, G. P. B. wrote:
>
> > Apologies for the double email, my client did something funcky.
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:22, G. P. B. 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:15, Michael Voříšek - ČVUT FEL <
> voris...@fel.cvut.cz> wrote: Hi everyone,
> >
> > thank you for your comments, based on them, I fixed these:
> >
> > - usleep is now used as a fallback as well, if interrupted, remaining
> > time is measured using microtime, so return value is always available
> >
> > - for BC, if not interrupted, return value remains to be 0 (integer
> > zero)
> >
> > Now, the sleep() function should be really universal, cross platform and
> > I would say also the prefered way to sleep.
> >
> > The implementaion is here https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5961/files
> >
> > Please comment on Github directly if you have any feedback left.
> >
> >> I thinkit's worth considering if this also should be fixed in 8.0 or
> even earlier ;-)So good to hear the RM view on this.
> >
> > Sara, are you ok to include this in PHP 8.0 and do you require a RFC for
> > it?
> >
> > With kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / S přátelským pozdravem,
> >
> > Michael Voříšek
>
> Again, I personally don't understand why this could bypass the RFC
> process,
> as multiple people have already, me included, voiced their disagreement
> with this change.
>
> Secondly this change introduces another inconsistency, why can sleep
> accept a float but not usleep?
>
> If there is indeed a need for being able to specify a sleep in
> milliseconds I'd prefer the introduction of a
> msleep function then this change.
>
> Best regards
>
> George P. Banyard

Re: [PHP-DEV] Allow sleep() to accept non-integer values

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:16, Michael Voříšek - ČVUT FEL <
voris...@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> thank you for your comments, based on them, I fixed these:
>
> - usleep is now used as a fallback as well, if interrupted, remaining
> time is measured using microtime, so return value is always available
>
> - for BC, if not interrupted, return value remains to be 0 (integer
> zero)
>
> Now, the sleep() function should be really universal, cross platform and
> I would say also the prefered way to sleep.
>
> The implementaion is here https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5961/files
>
>
> Please comment on Github directly if you have any feedback left.
>
> > I thinkit's worth considering if this also should be fixed in 8.0 or
> even earlier ;-)So good to hear the RM view on this.
>
> Sara, are you ok to include this in PHP 8.0 and do you require a RFC for
> it?
>
> With kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / S přátelským pozdravem,
>
> Michael Voříšek
>
> On 11 Aug 2020 12:43, Björn Larsson wrote:
>
> > Den 2020-08-11 kl. 10:53, skrev Rowan Tommins:
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 08:31, Michael Voříšek - ČVUT FEL <
> > voris...@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:
> >
> > I am the author of https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5961 , please
> > provide feedback.
> >
> > This idea makes a lot of sense to me as a user (I'll leave comments on
> the
> > implementation to those with more C experience).
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I've accidentally written things like "sleep(1.5)" in the
> > past, and think there is a strong argument for changing something here:
> >
> > Another reason is that sleep(0.1); is silently accepted now (even with
> strict types enabled), but the input is casted to 0 and thus producing
> > unexpected behaviour if the user is not aware of the current method
> > prototype.
> >
> > Unless there are problems with the implementation, this seems like a
> > straight-forward win.
> >
> > Regards,
>
> Given this unexpected behaviour, one could almost see it as a bug. I
> think
> it's worth considering if this also should be fixed in 8.0 or even
> earlier ;-)
> So good to hear the RM view on this.
>
> r//Björn L



I don't know about Sara's opinion here, but mine, as PHP 8.0's other
Release Manager, this change requires an RFC
and it should target PHP 8.1. PHP 8.0 has been feature frozen for a while
now.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bump minimal OpenSSL version to 1.0.2 in PHP 8.0

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in PHP
> 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be supported by any major distro (think that RHEL
> switched to 1.0.2 in 7.4 and not aware about another distro that would
> still support 1.0.1).
>
> Please shout if you have any concerns.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jakub
>

Is this allowed after PHP's Feature Freeze period? Could this drop cause
any userland changes that should be discussed?

Re: [PHP-DEV] Putting the match expression in constant expressions in PHP 8.0 or 8.1

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 02:22, tyson andre  wrote:

> Hi internals,
>
> The match expression can be thought of as a much more concise/readable
> equivalent to chained ternary operators.
> I'm proposing allowing matches in constant expressions when all parts of
> the match are constant expressions.
>
> For example, these two class constants would have equivalent behaviors if
> match expressions were allowed in constant expressions.
>
> ```
> class MyClass {
> const CONFIG_SETTING = (APP_ENVIRONMENT == 'dev' || APP_ENVIRONMENT ==
> 'stage') ? 'development-config' :
> (APP_ENVIRONMENT == 'prod' ? 'production-config' : null);
>
> const CONFIG_SETTING = match(APP_ENVIRONMENT) {
> 'dev', 'stage' => 'development-config',
> 'prod' => 'production-config',
> default => null,
> };
> }
> ```
>
> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5951 implements the main part of the
> change.
>
> This is mostly for the sake of consistency, since match can be thought of
> as yet another control flow primitive that is more readable under some
> circumstances.
>
> So I had some questions:
> 1. Should this target 8.0 or 8.1? I'm leaning towards 8.1 since the beta
> is already out.
>

8.1, as PHP 8.0 is already FF and I'd consider your proposal a feature,
we'd need an RFC and everything else :)


> 2. Are there objections to doing this?
> 3. Should/shouldn't php enforce that the default arm exists for match *in
> constant expressions*
>(constant expressions can already throw errors when evaluated for
> various reasons, but UnhandledMatchError is new)
>
> Thanks,
> - Tyson
> --
> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0beta1 is ready for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0beta1 has just been released and can be
downloaded from https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0beta1`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in
the bug system: https://bugs.php.net

8.0.0beta2 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Aug 20, 2020.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/6e0b8b33ee4dd2da23002863af4de965

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

PHP 8.0.0 Beta1 Manifest:

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Re: [PHP-DEV] 8.0 Feature Freeze happening today

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 19:40, Nikita Popov  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 7:01 PM Nikita Popov  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:39 AM Gabriel Caruso 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning Internals!
>>>
>>> This is a reminder that *today* we are Feature Freezing and branching
>>> `PHP-8.0`, following the PHP 8.0 schedule (
>>> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80#timetable).
>>>
>>> The branch will happen around
>>>
>>> - 1 am (+1 day) UTC+8 (SGT)
>>> - 7 pm UTC+2 (CEST, my timezone)
>>> - 6 pm UTC+1 (BST)
>>> - 1 pm UTC-4 (EDT)
>>>
>>> Let us know if you have any questions!
>>>
>>> -- Gabriel Caruso
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't catch that this message said feature freeze *and branch*.
>>
>> Please do not create a separate PHP-8.0 branch yet. A separate branch is
>> only needed if anyone wants to start landing changes targeting PHP 8.1
>> already -- as far as I'm aware, nobody is actively working on PHP 8.1 yet.
>>
>> Due to our git workflow, creating a branch now means that every single
>> commit to PHP 8.0 will also require a merge into master. This is a rather
>> big waste of time and CI resources if we expect PHP-8.0 and master to be
>> identical in the near future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nikita
>>
>
> Preferably the branch would coincide with the ABI freeze, which I presume
> would be RC1.
>
> Nikita
>


Hello,

I created the branch based on
https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/docs/release-process.md#re-releasing-the-same-version-or--pl.
Sorry for it in advance.

I understand Nikita's concerns and giving that now we have (in a security
fix, for example) the gitflow is `PHP-7.2` ~> `PHP-7.3` ~> `PHP-7.4`
~> `PHP-8.0` ~> `master`.

I wouldn't mind branching it another day, we just need to document if for
future reasons.

[PHP-DEV] 8.0 Feature Freeze happening today

[Gabriel Caruso]

Good morning Internals!

This is a reminder that *today* we are Feature Freezing and branching
`PHP-8.0`, following the PHP 8.0 schedule (
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80#timetable).

The branch will happen around

- 1 am (+1 day) UTC+8 (SGT)
- 7 pm UTC+2 (CEST, my timezone)
- 6 pm UTC+1 (BST)
- 1 pm UTC-4 (EDT)

Let us know if you have any questions!

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0alpha3 is ready for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0alpha3 has just been released and can be
downloaded from https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0alpha3`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in
the bug system: https://bugs.php.net

8.0.0beta1 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on Aug 06, 2020.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/6e0b8b33ee4dd2da23002863af4de965

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

PHP 8.0.0 Alpha3 Manifest:

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Changing default assertion mode to throw exceptions

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 19:37, Levi Morrison  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd like to change the default mode of assertion failures to throw.
> The current default is to warn. In my opinion this is a bad strategy:
> the engine asserted that something that is expected to be true is not,
> so executing further is a bad idea. This leaves throwing or bailing
> out. I think throwing an exception is better than bailing out, so
> that's what I propose.
>
> --
> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php


Hello Levi

+1 on this one, I use assertions on my local development, and we also have
that
on `doctrine/coding-standard` (
https://github.com/doctrine/coding-standard/pull/47).

I think throwing an exception is indeed a better way to make the most out
of it.

Re: [PHP-DEV] The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it?

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 14:00, Derick Rethans  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know we've voted twice on this already, but are we really sure that
> the @@ syntax is a good idea?
>
> - There are lots of grumbles, both on here, room 11, as well as in the
>   wider community (https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/hjpu79/it_is/)
> - It has the distinct possibility to cause further parsing issues, akin
>   to what ended up happening with what Nikita is addressing at
>   https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
> - There is no "end symbol" to make finding occurences easier.
> - It is a syntax *no other language* uses.
> - @ is never going to go away, so the possibility of @@ moving to @ is
>   also 0.
>
> Please, let's do the sensible and use the Rusty #[...] syntax.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
> --
> PHP 7.4 Release Manager
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>
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> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>
Hello Derick.

I do understand your concerns, and I appreciate that you've reached out.

Although we are very close to the Feature Freeze date for PHP 8.0 (
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80), I wouldn't mind opening an exception for
this specific case and let you (or someone), create an RFC proposing to
change the syntax of Attributes (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2),
and that only!

I'm copying PHP 8.0's Release Manager Sara, to hear her opinion on this as
well.

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] Drop warning about non-public magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello internals,

During the development of https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature I
found something that I'd like to share with you, and possibly propose to
drop it: there's a warning that php-src throws when a magic method is
declared with visibility different than `public`: https://3v4l.org/LKnKB.

This warning does not make much sense as the magic method is executed
regardless of its visibility. Should it be dropped?


- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0alpha2 is ready for testing

[Gabriel Caruso]

PHP 8.0.0alpha2 has just been released and can be
downloaded from https://downloads.php.net/~carusogabriel

Or use the git tag: `php-8.0.0alpha2`

Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa

Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in
the bug system: https://bugs.php.net

8.0.0alpha3 should be expected in 2 weeks, i.e. on 23 Jul 2020.

Hash values and PGP signatures can be found below or at
https://gist.github.com/carusogabriel/0ae8a6238ab9336be7d8e1eb6873888f

Thank you, and happy testing!

Regards,
Sara Golemon & Gabriel Caruso

PHP 8.0.0 Alpha2 Manifest:

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 18:44, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> Hello, internals!
>
> I have opened the voting for
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.
>
> The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Gabriel Caruso
>

The RFC has been accepted with 45 votes in favor of it and 2 against.

The Pull Request on GitHub with its implementation will be updated during
the next days. Once it's merged into the main branch, I'll update this
thread.

Thanks everyone for the discussion!

[PHP-DEV] Make `always true` SPL methods return void

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello, internals,

Inspired by the bug report #75958 (http://bugs.php.net/75958), I'd like to
change the return type of some SPL methods that are always returning `true`
and only `true`.

These "always `true`" returns make no sense, as you can't wrap it in an
`if`/`else` to catch something that happened, so changing it to `void` and
just invoke these methods sounds reasonable to me.

You can find the PR, with some discussion already, at
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5314.

Can I proceed with these changes, or should I create an RFC for that?

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] Change `__debugInfo` return type

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello, internals.

I'd like to discuss with you a minor change that I'd like to make to PHP
8.0: change the return type of `__debugInfo` from `?array` to `array`.

The full context on how Máté found out that `__debugInfo` actually
returns an `?array` (which btw is not even documented:
https://php.net/language.oop5.magic#object.debuginfo) can be found in this
PR: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5496.

Do you agree with this change, or should I proceed with a small RFC?

-- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 23:11, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:32, Nikita Popov  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:20 PM Gabriel Caruso <
>> carusogabrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 15:57, Nikita Popov  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM Gabriel Caruso <
>>>> carusogabrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello, internals!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have opened the voting for
>>>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.
>>>>>
>>>>> The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The RFC is a bit unclear on what is actually being proposed. It says
>>>>
>>>> > This RFC proposes to add parameter and return types checks per the
>>>> following details.
>>>>
>>>> and goes on to list (reasonable looking) magic method signatures, but
>>>> does not say how exactly those types are going to be checked. Is this going
>>>> to require exactly the same signature, or is this going to be in accordance
>>>> with variance rules? For example, are all of the following signatures valid
>>>> under this RFC? Only the first two? None of them?
>>>>
>>>> // Narrowed return type from ?array
>>>> public function __debugInfo(): array {}
>>>>
>>>> // Narrowed return type from mixed
>>>> public function __get(string $name): int {]
>>>>
>>>> // Widened argument type from string
>>>> public function __get(string|array $name): mixed {}
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They are going to be checked following the variance rules, not the
>>> *exactly* same as the RFC. I'll mention this, thanks for point it out.
>>>
>>> Assuming this, your examples:
>>>
>>> 1 and 2. Will be valid, following the rules introduced by the `mixed`
>>> RFC.
>>>
>>> 3. Is that allowed in PHP? If so, the RFC will compliance with that.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it is allowed. It makes little sense in this particular case, but
>> it's allowed.
>>
>
> Ok, so let's allow that as well. I'll cover that with tests.
>
>
>>
>> Also, is omitting the return type still permitted, even though it would
>>>> nominally violate variance?
>>>>
>>>> public function __debugInfo() {}
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this hasn't changed. The RFC only affects *typed* methods.
>>>
>>
>>>> Finally, if omitting the return type is permitted, will an implicit
>>>> return type be added, like we do for __toString()? Would the method
>>>> automatically become
>>>>
>>>> public function __debugInfo(): ?array {}
>>>>
>>>
>>> An implicit return type won't be added for any of the magic methods. I
>>> believe that's a huge BC, and I don't want to debate that for PHP 8 (maybe
>>> PHP 9, yes).
>>>
>>
>> Why would this be a BC break? To make sure we're on the same page, I'm
>> suggesting to do the same as we do for __toString(), where if you declare
>>
>> public function __toString() {}
>>
>> we automatically convert it into
>>
>> public function __toString(): string {}
>>
>> internally.
>>
>
>> We could do the same for all other magic methods, and I don't think it
>> would introduce a particularly severe BC break.
>>
>> We did this for __toString() to work with the Stringable interface, and
>> we don't have the same requirement for other magic methods, but I still
>> think it's worth considering this for consistency reasons.
>>
>
> Ok, let me see if I understood it: so if someone creates a
>
> public function __set($name, $value) {}
>
> we would automatically convert (as per this RFC) to
>
> public function(string $name, mixed $value): void {}
>
> internally, right? Isn't this a BC if someone is returning something
> inside that method?
>
> Or no, are you talking that we only convert that for Reflection purpose?
>
>>
>> Nikita
>>
>

To exemplify my question: is this change that you are suggesting for us to
add: https://3v4l.org/JKj9f vs. https://3v4l.org/JKj9f/rfc#git-php-master?

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:32, Nikita Popov  wrote:

> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:20 PM Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 15:57, Nikita Popov  wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM Gabriel Caruso <
>>> carusogabrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, internals!
>>>>
>>>> I have opened the voting for
>>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.
>>>>
>>>> The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).
>>>>
>>>
>>> The RFC is a bit unclear on what is actually being proposed. It says
>>>
>>> > This RFC proposes to add parameter and return types checks per the
>>> following details.
>>>
>>> and goes on to list (reasonable looking) magic method signatures, but
>>> does not say how exactly those types are going to be checked. Is this going
>>> to require exactly the same signature, or is this going to be in accordance
>>> with variance rules? For example, are all of the following signatures valid
>>> under this RFC? Only the first two? None of them?
>>>
>>> // Narrowed return type from ?array
>>> public function __debugInfo(): array {}
>>>
>>> // Narrowed return type from mixed
>>> public function __get(string $name): int {]
>>>
>>> // Widened argument type from string
>>> public function __get(string|array $name): mixed {}
>>>
>>
>>
>> They are going to be checked following the variance rules, not the
>> *exactly* same as the RFC. I'll mention this, thanks for point it out.
>>
>> Assuming this, your examples:
>>
>> 1 and 2. Will be valid, following the rules introduced by the `mixed` RFC.
>>
>> 3. Is that allowed in PHP? If so, the RFC will compliance with that.
>>
>
> Yes, it is allowed. It makes little sense in this particular case, but
> it's allowed.
>

Ok, so let's allow that as well. I'll cover that with tests.


>
> Also, is omitting the return type still permitted, even though it would
>>> nominally violate variance?
>>>
>>> public function __debugInfo() {}
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this hasn't changed. The RFC only affects *typed* methods.
>>
>
>>> Finally, if omitting the return type is permitted, will an implicit
>>> return type be added, like we do for __toString()? Would the method
>>> automatically become
>>>
>>> public function __debugInfo(): ?array {}
>>>
>>
>> An implicit return type won't be added for any of the magic methods. I
>> believe that's a huge BC, and I don't want to debate that for PHP 8 (maybe
>> PHP 9, yes).
>>
>
> Why would this be a BC break? To make sure we're on the same page, I'm
> suggesting to do the same as we do for __toString(), where if you declare
>
> public function __toString() {}
>
> we automatically convert it into
>
> public function __toString(): string {}
>
> internally.
>

> We could do the same for all other magic methods, and I don't think it
> would introduce a particularly severe BC break.
>
> We did this for __toString() to work with the Stringable interface, and we
> don't have the same requirement for other magic methods, but I still think
> it's worth considering this for consistency reasons.
>

Ok, let me see if I understood it: so if someone creates a

public function __set($name, $value) {}

we would automatically convert (as per this RFC) to

public function(string $name, mixed $value): void {}

internally, right? Isn't this a BC if someone is returning something inside
that method?

Or no, are you talking that we only convert that for Reflection purpose?

>
> Nikita
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:20 AM Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 15:57, Nikita Popov  wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM Gabriel Caruso <
>> carusogabrie...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello, internals!
>> >>
>> >> I have opened the voting for
>> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.
>> >>
>> >> The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).
>> >>
>> >
>> > The RFC is a bit unclear on what is actually being proposed. It says
>> >
>> > > This RFC proposes to add parameter and return types checks per the
>> > following details.
>> >
>> > and goes on to list (reasonable looking) magic method signatures, but
>> does
>> > not say how exactly those types are going to be checked. Is this going
>> to
>> > require exactly the same signature, or is this going to be in accordance
>> > with variance rules? For example, are all of the following signatures
>> valid
>> > under this RFC? Only the first two? None of them?
>> >
>> > // Narrowed return type from ?array
>> > public function __debugInfo(): array {}
>> >
>> > // Narrowed return type from mixed
>> > public function __get(string $name): int {]
>> >
>> > // Widened argument type from string
>> > public function __get(string|array $name): mixed {}
>> >
>>
>>
>> They are going to be checked following the variance rules, not the
>> *exactly* same as the RFC. I'll mention this, thanks for point it out.
>>
>> Assuming this, your examples:
>>
>> 1 and 2. Will be valid, following the rules introduced by the `mixed` RFC.
>>
>> 3. Is that allowed in PHP? If so, the RFC will compliance with that.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Also, is omitting the return type still permitted, even though it would
>> > nominally violate variance?
>> >
>> > public function __debugInfo() {}
>> >
>>
>> Yes, this hasn't changed. The RFC only affects *typed* methods.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Finally, if omitting the return type is permitted, will an implicit
>> return
>> > type be added, like we do for __toString()? Would the method
>> automatically
>> > become
>> >
>> > public function __debugInfo(): ?array {}
>> >
>>
>> An implicit return type won't be added for any of the magic methods. I
>> believe that's a huge BC, and I don't want to debate that for PHP 8 (maybe
>> PHP 9, yes).
>>
>>
>> >
>> > and report as such from reflection?
>> >
>>
>> I need more clearance on this one: are you asking how magic methods are
>> reported via Reflection and if that will be changed?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Nikita
>> >
>>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 14:26, Dmitry Stogov  wrote:

> Does this RFC support __get() returning by reference?
> See
> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/Zend/tests/overloaded_prop_assign_op_refs.phpt#L11
>
> Thanks. Dmitry.

Hello Dmitry,

Yes, I'm not changing any behavior of magic methods and references.

-- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 15:57, Nikita Popov  wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, internals!
>>
>> I have opened the voting for
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.
>>
>> The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).
>>
>
> The RFC is a bit unclear on what is actually being proposed. It says
>
> > This RFC proposes to add parameter and return types checks per the
> following details.
>
> and goes on to list (reasonable looking) magic method signatures, but does
> not say how exactly those types are going to be checked. Is this going to
> require exactly the same signature, or is this going to be in accordance
> with variance rules? For example, are all of the following signatures valid
> under this RFC? Only the first two? None of them?
>
> // Narrowed return type from ?array
> public function __debugInfo(): array {}
>
> // Narrowed return type from mixed
> public function __get(string $name): int {]
>
> // Widened argument type from string
> public function __get(string|array $name): mixed {}
>


They are going to be checked following the variance rules, not the
*exactly* same as the RFC. I'll mention this, thanks for point it out.

Assuming this, your examples:

1 and 2. Will be valid, following the rules introduced by the `mixed` RFC.

3. Is that allowed in PHP? If so, the RFC will compliance with that.


>
> Also, is omitting the return type still permitted, even though it would
> nominally violate variance?
>
> public function __debugInfo() {}
>

Yes, this hasn't changed. The RFC only affects *typed* methods.


>
> Finally, if omitting the return type is permitted, will an implicit return
> type be added, like we do for __toString()? Would the method automatically
> become
>
> public function __debugInfo(): ?array {}
>

An implicit return type won't be added for any of the magic methods. I
believe that's a huge BC, and I don't want to debate that for PHP 8 (maybe
PHP 9, yes).


>
> and report as such from reflection?
>

I need more clearance on this one: are you asking how magic methods are
reported via Reflection and if that will be changed?


>
> Nikita
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Intersection types

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 04:39, Larry Garfield  wrote:

> On Sat, May 30, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Gert de Pagter wrote:
> > Hi Internals,
> >
> > With recent additions of the type system like union types [1], id like
> > to propose adding intersection types as well.
> >
> > Looking through past RFCs I found one from 2016 [2] which never left
> > the discussion phase and is currently marked as inactive.
> > Before continuing with an RFC I'd like to know if there are any
> > particular reasons why the original RFC never got into a voting phase,
> > so that this one may be more successful.
> >
> > P.S. I’d also like to get RFC karma so I could create a proposal.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/union_types_v2
> > 
> > [2] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/intersection_types
> > 
>
> To my recollection, the original RFC was met with a general "meh, sounds
> complicated, and why would you want to do that?" which is why it never went
> as far as a vote.  I don't know if there was an implementation.  Note that
> it was proposed seemingly in conjunction with union types v1, and a lot of
> the discussion really confused the two.
>
> 4 years later, Nikita tried union types a second time and they sailed
> through.  I couldn't say why, but I speculate that it was a combination of
> 4 years of the community maturing, different people being around, and just
> union types without intersection types being an easier thing to swallow.
>
> I'd say go for it.  I'd love to see intersection types, as it would be
> very helpful to certain use cases with FIG PSRs.  (Eg, "I want an object
> that is a Response and also has the Link extensions from PSR-13 on it" is
> currently impossible to specify.  Intersection types would solve that
> perfectly.)
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
> --
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I second everything that Larry said.

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Ensure correct signatures of magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello, internals!

I have opened the voting for
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature.

The voting period ends on 2020-06-19 at 18h (CEST).

Thanks,

-- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 13:06, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 01:47, Dan Ackroyd  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 17:32, Gabriel Caruso 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > If there are no further requests or comments, I'll open this RFC for
>> voting
>> > next Friday.
>>
>> Hi Gabriel,
>>
>> I think it would be better to hold off until the mixed RFC has been voted
>> on.
>>
>> If that passes, the four signatures that still have mixed in the
>> docblock, could be updated to use mixed in the actual signature.
>>
>> There's plenty of time until the release process starts.
>>
>> cheers
>> Dan
>> Ack
>>
>
> Hello sir.
>
> I'll hold to start the voting process for this one until
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mixed_type_v2 gets discussed and voted, no
> problems.
>
> Thanks for the head up.
>
> Best regards,
>

Alright, `mixed` type RFC voted and merged, time to move with this one.

We still got time, so I'll wait until this Friday (29/05) to start the
voting, if someone still has any objections or questions regarding this RFC.

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] [PHP-8.0] First alpha coming in 4 weeks

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello internals,


This is a message from your Release Managers reminding you that PHP 8's
first alpha is happening in 4 weeks.

You can follow PHP's 8 schedule on https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80.


I'd like to remind you as well that Feature Freeze is scheduled to happen
on Tuesday, July 28th, 2020, at 24:00 UTC.

After Feature Freeze, no more changes to APIs, ABIs, and internal
structures are allowed, unless agreed upon by internals, and the Release
Managers.

Anything after that needs to wait until the next version (8.1), or the next
major version (9.0) if you are breaking any backward compatibility.


Please make sure to start the voting for RFCs by July 13th, so they can
make it into PHP 8 (if approved, of course).


Hope you all are staying home and safe!


- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal For Return-If / Early Return / Guard Clause Syntax

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 17:49, Ralph Schindler 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
>
> # Intro
>
> I am proposing what is a near completely syntactical addition (only
> change is to language.y) to the language. The best terminology for this
> syntax is are: `return if`, "return early", or "guard clauses".
>
>see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_(computer_science)
>
> Over the past few years, I've seen a growing number of blog posts,
> conference talks, and even tooling (for example code complexity
> scoring), that suggest writing guard clauses is a good practice to
> utilize.  I've also seen it more prevalent in code, and even attempts at
> achieving this with Exceptions (in an HTTP context) in a framework like
> Laravel.
>
>see abort_if/throw_if:
> https://laravel.com/docs/7.x/helpers#method-abort-if
>
> It is also worth mentioning that Ruby has similar features, and I
> believe they are heavily utilized:
>
>see:
> https://github.com/rubocop-hq/ruby-style-guide#no-nested-conditionals
>
>
> # Proposal
>
> In an effort to make it a first class feature of the language, and to
> make the control flow / guard clauses more visible when scanning code, I
> am proposing this in the syntax of adding `return if`.
>
> The chosen syntax is:
>
>return if ( if_expr ) [: optional_return_expression] ;
>
> As a contrived example:
>
>  function divide($dividend, $divisor = null) {
>  return if ($divisor === null || $divisor === 0);
>
>  return $dividend / $divisor;
>  }
>
> There is already a little discussion around the choice of order in the
> above statement, the main take-aways and (my) perceived benefits are:
>
>- it keeps the intent nearest the left rail of the code (in
> normal/common-ish coding standards)
>
>- it treats "return if" as a meta-keyword; if must follow return for
> the statement to be a guard clause.  This also allows a person to more
> easily discern "returns" from "return ifs" more easily since there is
> not an arbitrary amount of code between them (for example if the return
> expression were after return but before if).
>
>- it has the quality that optional parts are towards the end
>
>- is also has the quality that the : return_expression; is very
> symmetrical to the way we demarcate the return type in method signatures
> "): return type {" for example.
>
>- has the quality of promoting single-line conditional returns
>
>
> # Finally
>
> One might say this is unnecessary syntactic sugar, which is definitely
> arguable. But we do have multiple ways of achieving this.
>
> Of course all of these things should be discussed, I think sub-votes
> (should this PR make it that far) could be considered.
>
> The PR is located here:
>
>https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5552
>
> As mentioned, some discussion is happening there as well.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Ralph Schindler
>
>
> PS: since implementing the ::class feature 8 years ago, the addition of
> the AST abstraction made this kind of syntactical change
> proof-of-concept so much easier, bravo!
>
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Hello Ralph,

Have you written a formal RFC document? If not, you should do it for this
RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RESULT] Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Round two, PHP 8.0 RM

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello Kalle, Sara


On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 17:52, Kalle Sommer Nielsen  wrote:

> Den tir. 5. maj 2020 kl. 21.05 skrev Sara Golemon :
> > I assume you're already familiar with
> > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/docs/release-process.md as
> our
> > official process documentation.
> >
> > I'd also like to point you at https://github.com/sgolemon/php-release
> (prebuilt
> > on docerhub as sgolemon/php-release ).  It does a LOT of the work
> described
> > under "rolling a release" in an automated and easy to recreate fashion.
> I
> > invite you to do a trial run making an "alpha0" and uploading it to
> > downloads.php.net/~gabrielcaruso (Derick or someone will reach out
> shortly
> > on setting up an account and how to reach that server).
> >
> > Also, don't forget to add your GPG key to
> > https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/gpg-keys.inc
> >
> > -Sara
>
> I just granted the web karma and relevant RM karma (git wise) so he
> should be able to push his key now.
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Kalle Sommer Nielsen
> ka...@php.net


Thanks for all the links and karma granted, appreciated it.

I've submitted a PR with my GPG key: https://github.com/php/web-php/pull/325
.

Following the "New Release Manager checklist"
,
I think what is missing is the moderation access to `
php-annou...@lists.php.net` and `primary-qa-tes...@lists.php.net`.

Thanks for the opportunity of being a PHP RM and all the help so far :)

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 01:47, Dan Ackroyd  wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 17:32, Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
> >
> > If there are no further requests or comments, I'll open this RFC for
> voting
> > next Friday.
>
> Hi Gabriel,
>
> I think it would be better to hold off until the mixed RFC has been voted
> on.
>
> If that passes, the four signatures that still have mixed in the
> docblock, could be updated to use mixed in the actual signature.
>
> There's plenty of time until the release process starts.
>
> cheers
> Dan
> Ack
>

Hello sir.

I'll hold to start the voting process for this one until
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mixed_type_v2 gets discussed and voted, no
problems.

Thanks for the head up.

Best regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 16:22, Guilliam Xavier 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:02 PM Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, internals.
> >
> > Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
> > via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
> > https://externals.io/message/107990:
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > -- Gabriel Caruso
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you, this seems a sensible thing to add.
>
> Just an interrogation: the following magic methods (from the
> documentation) aren't mentioned at all in the RFC:
>   - `__sleep(): array`
>   - `__wakeup(): void`
>   - `__unserialize(array $data): void`
>   - (`__invoke` is basically untyped)
>   - `__set_state(array $properties): object`
>   -  `__debugInfo(): array`
> Is there a reason for leaving them out?
> Related, the RFC mentions that `__serialize` and `__toString` already
> have a *runtime* check that they respectively return an `array` and a
> `string` (when called), but why not check their signature (if typed)
> at *compile time* too (i.e. make https://3v4l.org/ZPrVi an error)?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Guilliam Xavier
>

The RFC has been updated with the missing methods.

If there are no further requests or comments, I'll open this RFC for voting
next Friday.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Mixed type

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 13:18, Dan Ackroyd  wrote:

> Hi Internals,
>
> Here is an RFC for adding a 'mixed' type to the language:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mixed_type_v2
> The RFC builds on an earlier draft by Michael Moravec.
>
> Part of the motivation for pursuing this RFC was my recent experience
> in upgrading an application to PHP 7.4.
>
> Being able to add types to the application made the code much easier
> to reason about, but there were places where I couldn't add type info
> due to the lack of mixed. That made it hard to see if that piece of
> code had been upgraded (but type info couldn't be added), or if that
> code still needed to be upgraded.
>
> cheers
> Dan
> Ack
>
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>
>
Hello Danack

Has the type `any` been considered? I've discussed that in the
implementation Pull Request with Máté.

Would it be too much to create a sub-voting for the type used here?

Best regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 18:46, tyson andre  wrote:

> > Ah, so that's what this is about! In that case, I'd be happy to simply
> > always enforce that __construct() cannot return a value, in the same way
> we
> > do for ": void" functions. (If we have backwards compatibility concerns,
> we
> > can add this as a warning instead of hard error.)
>
> I'd approve of that. It'd also be useful to enforce that __construct and
> other magic methods aren't generators,
> and that methods from traits renamed to __construct have the same
> restrictions.
>
> ```
> php > class X{ public function __construct() { yield 2; }}
> php > new X();  // nonsense
> php > trait T1 { public function f() { echo "In f\n"; return 2; }}
> php > class Z { use T1{ f as __construct; } }
> php > new Z();
> In f
> ```
>
> - Tyson


Hello Tyson,

This falls under the `Future Scope`  of the RFC (
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature#future-scope) as checking
for the actual return value of these magic methods would be a larger BC.

For now, only the signatures will be checked.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 16:22, Guilliam Xavier 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:02 PM Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, internals.
> >
> > Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
> > via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
> > https://externals.io/message/107990:
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > -- Gabriel Caruso
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you, this seems a sensible thing to add.
>
> Just an interrogation: the following magic methods (from the
> documentation) aren't mentioned at all in the RFC:
>   - `__sleep(): array`
>   - `__wakeup(): void`
>   - `__unserialize(array $data): void`
>   - (`__invoke` is basically untyped)
>   - `__set_state(array $properties): object`
>   -  `__debugInfo(): array`
> Is there a reason for leaving them out?
> Related, the RFC mentions that `__unserialize` and `__toString` already
> have a *runtime* check that they respectively return an `array` and a
> `string` (when called), but why not check their signature (if typed)
> at *compile time* too (i.e. make https://3v4l.org/ZPrVi an error)?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Guilliam Xavier
>

Hello Guilliam

Magic methods not mentioned in the RFC won't be changed, that's why they
aren't mentioned. The reason is either:

- Isn't possible to add checks: the case of `__invoke`
- They aren't really magic methods, but an extension method implementation
(as far as I understood during the development of this RFC)

`__unserialize` and `__serialize` should be possible to add these checks,
I'll take a look in the implementation.

About `__toString`: this check is already performed in PHP 8.0:
https://3v4l.org/jIg7b/rfc#git-php-maste
<https://3v4l.org/jIg7b/rfc#git-php-master>r

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 16:01, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

>
> Hello, internals.
>
> Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
> via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
> https://externals.io/message/107990:
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Gabriel Caruso
>

 As suggested by Mr. Danack, I've added a section to the RFC: `RFC Impact`,
which lists the cases that would break with this RFC.

Thanks for the suggestion, sir.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 12:57, Nikita Popov  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:45 PM Claude Pache 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 14 avr. 2020 à 18:53, Nikita Popov  a écrit :
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 6:07 PM Claude Pache 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Le 14 avr. 2020 à 16:54, Nicolas Grekas 
>>> a écrit :
>>> >
>>> > I'm just not sold on allowing "void" on __construct, because the very
>>> concept of a return type on a constructor is ... void, and also because of
>>> the code style choices this will open (and the CS "wars" I mentioned).
>>> >
>>>
>>> This issue is not specific to magic method like __construct(). It is the
>>> whole concept of “void” as return type which is, say, “problematic”.
>>>
>>> In fact, “void” is not really a return type. It is a way to state that
>>> the method is not supposed to return anything, which means, as you said
>>> very well, that “the very concept of return type on [this method] is void”.
>>>
>>> That might be a reason to reject the concept of “void” as return type.
>>> Or to revive https://wiki.php.net/rfc/allow-void-variance <
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/allow-void-variance> . But again, the issue is
>>> orthogonal to the fact that this particular method is magic, and we should
>>> not cherry-pick and reject the concept of “void” for __construct() and
>>> similar magic methods only.
>>
>>
>> Constructors not having a return type is standard behavior across most
>> (all?) languages. You can't specify a constructor return type in C++. You
>> can't specify one in C#. You can't specify one in Java. Off-hand, I can't
>> name a language that both has a first-class constructor concept (Rust's
>> "new" idiom does not count) and specifies a return type on it.
>>
>> It would naturally follow that, yes, you can't specify a constructor
>> return type in PHP either, just like we enforce right now. Unless we have
>> some strong reason to deviate from standard behavior that I do not see?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nikita
>>
>>
>> Do those languages allow to return something from the constructor (as
>> does PHP currently)? because I’m more interested in the semantics of `:
>> void` than the exact way to have it.
>>
>
> Ah, so that's what this is about! In that case, I'd be happy to simply
> always enforce that __construct() cannot return a value, in the same way we
> do for ": void" functions. (If we have backwards compatibility concerns, we
> can add this as a warning instead of hard error.)
>
> Nikita
>


I'll change the RFC and remove the `: void` return allowance for
`__construct()`. Should we do the same for `__destruct()`?

Nikita, about your suggestion of checking the actual return value of
`__construct()`, I've mentioned in the RFC that I want to do that for all
the magic methods in a future RFC (
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature#future-scope). Do you
think we can follow with that, or no, we should add this check to the
current RFC?

Nicolas, I've improved the RFC document. Let me know if there's anything
else that I need to clarify.

Thanks for the feedback y'all.

Best regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 15:24, Nicolas Grekas 
wrote:

> Hello Gabriel,
>
> >>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
>>
>> RFC and implementation have been updated.
>>
>
> There are a few things I don't understand from the RFC, let me list from
> the examples.
>
> > This RFC proposes to introduce the following signatures checks when
> magic methods are typed:
>
> My general question is: what does this mean exactly?
>
>
> > /** @return mixed */
> > Foo::__call(string $name, array $arguments);
>
> > /** @return mixed */
> > Foo::__callStatic(string $name, array $arguments);
>
> > /** @return mixed */
> > Foo::__get(string $name);
>
>
> Does this mean we won't be allowed to declare __call($name, $arguments);?
>
> This looks against LSP to me.
>
>
> > Foo::__clone(): void;
>
> > /** @param mixed $args */
> > Foo::__construct($args): void;
>
> > Foo::__destruct(): void;
>
> Is void going to be mandatory now? This should be specified in the RFC I
> think.
>
> If it's about to allow void where it wasn't allowed, I'm personally not
> convinced it's a good idea to open one more code-style war on this topic.
> When there is only one way to declare something, there is no need to come
> to any agreement about the code style. That's a win.
>

Hello Nicolas

No, *nothing* is gonna be mandatory.

As per the RFC:

> This RFC proposes to introduce the following signatures checks when magic
methods are typed:

These checks are only gonna be performed when you type your signatures and
*only when you type*. So, your example: `__call($name, $arguments)` will
work just fine, same as if you don't type `__clone` with `: void`.

Is there a better way to phrase that in the RFC?


>
> > Foo::__isset(string $name): bool;
> > Foo::__unset(string $name): void;
>
> Same comment about LSP, but also about the type: isn't it allowed to have
> integers as keys? How does this play with strict_type and array access?
>
Thanks for raise this. Nowadays, you can't: https://3v4l.org/pPJDt. But, if
you call as a method, yes: https://3v4l.org/0VmYQ.

So this should be documented in the RFC as a BC Break.

>
> > /** @param mixed $value */
> > Foo::__set(string $name, $value): void;
>
>
> Is the return now going to be mandatory?
>

No, as explained above.


> And the BIG question: is all this worth the BC break?
>

My main motivation is to make sure that developers are using the magic
methods with the correct type, nothing else. If everyone then agrees that
not having these checks is better for the language, no problem on closing
this RFC :)

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks,


> Thanks,
>
> Nicolas
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 23:29, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 22:40, Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 12:55, Claude Pache  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Le 5 avr. 2020 à 16:01, Gabriel Caruso  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello, internals.
>>>
>>> Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
>>> via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
>>> https://externals.io/message/107990:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> -- Gabriel Caruso
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>
>> Hello Claude,
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regarding __construct(), etc. Since those methods are not supposed to
>>> return anything, they ought to accept the `void` return pseudo-type in
>>> their signature, which means exactly that: “do not return anything”. I
>>> consider that the current behaviour (i.e., not accepting the `: void`
>>> signature) as a bug, and was very surprised when I stumbled on it.
>>>
>>>
>> I'll add to the RFC adding the possibility of typing the `__construct()`
>> as `: void` as one of the changes.
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Also, I raise the following question:
>>>
>>> Should omitted types be added implicitly? I.e., if I write:  `function
>>> __toString() { }` should the compiler interpret it as `function
>>> __toString(): string { }` ? (Currently, it is not the case.)
>>>
>>> Doing so would raise BC concerns for some, uh, creative uses of magic
>>> methods. On the other hand, that may help to add progressively type
>>> informations on magic methods, since there is no need to synchronise
>>> manually classes and subclasses (the compiler would do it automatically for
>>> you). Concrete example here: https://3v4l.org/hTMvA
>>>
>>>
>> This RFC does not cover analyzing the return of magic methods nor adding
>> simplicity types. I'll add a note about it in the RFC.
>>
>>
>>> —Claude
>>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> Btw, the problem that you reported about incompatible signatures will be
> fixed on PHP 8: https://3v4l.org/hTMvA/rfc#git-php-master.
>
> I've also added a test on the implementation ensuring the following:
> https://3v4l.org/5010J/rfc#git-php-master.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Gabriel Caruso
>

RFC and implementation have been updated.

 I'll open it for voting this Friday (17-04-2020) if there's anything else
to discuss.

Best regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 22:40, Gabriel Caruso 
wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 12:55, Claude Pache  wrote:
>
>>
>> Le 5 avr. 2020 à 16:01, Gabriel Caruso  a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Hello, internals.
>>
>> Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
>> via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
>> https://externals.io/message/107990:
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -- Gabriel Caruso
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>
> Hello Claude,
>
>
>>
>> Regarding __construct(), etc. Since those methods are not supposed to
>> return anything, they ought to accept the `void` return pseudo-type in
>> their signature, which means exactly that: “do not return anything”. I
>> consider that the current behaviour (i.e., not accepting the `: void`
>> signature) as a bug, and was very surprised when I stumbled on it.
>>
>>
> I'll add to the RFC adding the possibility of typing the `__construct()`
> as `: void` as one of the changes.
>
>
>> 
>>
>> Also, I raise the following question:
>>
>> Should omitted types be added implicitly? I.e., if I write:  `function
>> __toString() { }` should the compiler interpret it as `function
>> __toString(): string { }` ? (Currently, it is not the case.)
>>
>> Doing so would raise BC concerns for some, uh, creative uses of magic
>> methods. On the other hand, that may help to add progressively type
>> informations on magic methods, since there is no need to synchronise
>> manually classes and subclasses (the compiler would do it automatically for
>> you). Concrete example here: https://3v4l.org/hTMvA
>>
>>
> This RFC does not cover analyzing the return of magic methods nor adding
> simplicity types. I'll add a note about it in the RFC.
>
>
>> —Claude
>>
>
> Thanks!
>

Btw, the problem that you reported about incompatible signatures will be
fixed on PHP 8: https://3v4l.org/hTMvA/rfc#git-php-master.

I've also added a test on the implementation ensuring the following:
https://3v4l.org/5010J/rfc#git-php-master.

Thanks!

-- Gabriel Caruso

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 12:55, Claude Pache  wrote:

>
> Le 5 avr. 2020 à 16:01, Gabriel Caruso  a
> écrit :
>
> Hello, internals.
>
> Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
> via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
> https://externals.io/message/107990:
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Gabriel Caruso
>
>
> Hi,
>

Hello Claude,


>
> Regarding __construct(), etc. Since those methods are not supposed to
> return anything, they ought to accept the `void` return pseudo-type in
> their signature, which means exactly that: “do not return anything”. I
> consider that the current behaviour (i.e., not accepting the `: void`
> signature) as a bug, and was very surprised when I stumbled on it.
>
>
I'll add to the RFC adding the possibility of typing the `__construct()` as
`: void` as one of the changes.


> 
>
> Also, I raise the following question:
>
> Should omitted types be added implicitly? I.e., if I write:  `function
> __toString() { }` should the compiler interpret it as `function
> __toString(): string { }` ? (Currently, it is not the case.)
>
> Doing so would raise BC concerns for some, uh, creative uses of magic
> methods. On the other hand, that may help to add progressively type
> informations on magic methods, since there is no need to synchronise
> manually classes and subclasses (the compiler would do it automatically for
> you). Concrete example here: https://3v4l.org/hTMvA
>
>
This RFC does not cover analyzing the return of magic methods nor adding
simplicity types. I'll add a note about it in the RFC.


> —Claude
>

Thanks!

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 Release Manager Selection

[Gabriel Caruso]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 15:27, Derick Rethans  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> With the first alpha of 8.0 due in three months, I think it's time to
> start the process of finding and electing release managers for the next
> release of PHP.
>
> We are looking for two developers to take on this role. Whomsoever is
> elected will be guided and helped by the previous RMs and the excellent
> documentation in php-src:README.RELEASE_PROCESS.
>
> Candidates should have a reasonable knowledge of internals (without
> necessarily being a C guru), be confident about merging pull requests
> without breaking backward compatibility, doing triage for bugs, liaising
> with previous release managers, and generally getting the branch in good
> shape, as these are among the activities you will be undertaking as
> release manager.
>
> Please put your name forward here if you wish to be considered a
> candidate. An initial TODO page has been added to the wiki and contains
> provisional dates for GA and pre-releases:
> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
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>
Hello there,

I'd like to throw my name in the selection of RM for PHP 8 :)

I've been contributing to PHP itself for a while, apart from other
contributions to the ecosystem.

Best regards,
-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello, internals.

Hereby you can find the RFC Document that I want to discuss as suggested
via https://externals.io/message/109416 and
https://externals.io/message/107990:

https://wiki.php.net/rfc/magic-methods-signature

Best regards,

-- Gabriel Caruso

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] Ensure correct magic methods' signatures when typed

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello internals.

I'd like to discuss with you about https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/4177.

I'll write a formal RFC for this during the week.

Open question:

```php
public function __constructor() {}
```

vs.

```php
public function __constructor(): void {}
```

The same goes for `__destruct`, `__clone` and others that do not have
return type nowadays.

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 Release Manager Selection

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello there,

I'd like to throw my name in the selection os RM for PHP 8 :)

I've been contributing to PHP itself for a while, apart from many other
contributions in the ecosystem.

Best regards,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: VCS Account Request: nicolasgrekas

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello,

I'd like some explanation of why this happened.

Nicolas has already contributed to PHP, see (his pull requests)[1], as well
(his comments)[2] and as he has an RFC idea (regardless if it's going to be
approved or not), we should encourage that.

[1]: https://github.com/php/php-src/pulls/nicolas-grekas
[2]:
https://github.com/php/php-src/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+commenter%3Anicolas-grekas+

Best regards,

-- Gabriel Caruso


On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 13:20, PHP Group  wrote:

> VCS Account Rejected: nicolasgrekas rejected by salathe /o\
>
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>
>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Ensure correct signatures for PHP magic methods

[Gabriel Caruso]

Hello George

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 01:28, G. P. B.  wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 18:44, Gabriel Caruso 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Internals,
>>
>> I have a PR proposing to start checking the signatures for PHP magic
>> methods in the next major version of PHP:
>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/4177. The idea for this PR came from
>> https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=69718.
>>
>> I'd like to hear your opinion before putting more effort into this :)
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>
> Hello Gabriel,
>
> I do like the idea, but I would agree that I'd want void as the return
> type instead of a no return compile error.
> Other than that +1 from my side.
>


The reason why I didn't want to go with `__construct(): void`, for example,
is because some articles that I've read say that Constructors and
Destructors do not return anything:

- https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/php-constructors-and-destructors/
- https://docs.phpdoc.org/references/phpdoc/tags/return.html
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11904255/constructor-returning-value

Also, the community has pushing this standard, as it can be seen in
https://github.com/slevomat/coding-standard#slevomatcodingstandardtypehintsreturntypehint-
.

Best regards,


>
> Best regards
>
> George P. Banyard
>