[PHP-DEV] Re: "mixed up PHP" variant (Re: [PHP-DEV] named parameters?)

2005-04-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 13:02, Hendy Irawan wrote:
> On 4/18/05, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 12:40, Hendy Irawan wrote:
> > > Does anybody want named parameters?
> > >
> > > These are handy as template functions (like in Smarty), and these are
> > > achievable since the oldest PHP by using associative arrays. It's
> > > purely syntactic sugar, but it's a very convenient thing I guess (and
> > > promotes long, long lists of parameters as well ;-)
> > 
> > I for one would love them since they are very nice and concise for
> > functions that take optional parameters and have a lot of them (such as
> > generic search functions). It would save on the creation of a temporary
> > array, and then having pass that to the function. But then, I also think
> > this has been to the list before, and we don't currently have named
> > parameters, so I'm guessing it got shot down already :)
> Yeah, I think so... but I did a search on the archives and found
> nothing (at least, I found nothing on the first N results... maybe the
> full text indexer needed some tweaking)
> 
> Anyways, what PHP alternatives to PHP are already available out there?
> I think it's nice to have a "risk your life" PHP version that merges
> all available patches that never got into the official PHP. People
> building the "RYL" PHP will have to specify something like:
> 
> ./configure --enable-named-parameters --enable-attributes
> 
> to enable these features (or maybe --enable-all-experimental for the
> most adventurous). Giving no optional features would build an exact
> PHP as the official version.
> 
> Does something like this already exist?

Not that I know of. I think such a concept would be interesting though,
not as a RYL package, but as a power feature package-- especially if it
had a mandate to maintain 100% compatibility with normal PHP. Then power
users could use all of the existing scripts made for PHP and have all
the power features of Power-PHP (not that it could be called Power-PHP
without the blessing of Zend :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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[PHP-DEV] Re: "mixed up PHP" variant (Re: [PHP-DEV] named parameters?)

2005-04-18 Thread Hendy Irawan
On 4/19/05, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not that I know of. I think such a concept would be interesting though,
> not as a RYL package, but as a power feature package-- especially if it
> had a mandate to maintain 100% compatibility with normal PHP. Then power
> users could use all of the existing scripts made for PHP and have all
> the power features of Power-PHP (not that it could be called Power-PHP
> without the blessing of Zend :)

Yeah... I'd love something like that (if it exists ;-). Name doesn't
really matter, but if it has "power" in it, it can even be dangerous
to the official PHP ;-)

I guess 100% compatibility is a must... but I guess
performance/stability issues are inevitable.

I think maintaining this kind of thing isn't at all troublesome, most
of the stuff will be handled by CVS although we may get some conflict
at times... To accept a patch, just wrap them around #ifdef's, make
appropriate configure entries... then "publish"... (is it this easy?)
keeping up with the latest PHP might be an issue, so I guess it might
be more feasible to just merge with point releases only... (?)

Well, Firefox has greasemonkey we'll have powermonkey [sort of] ;-)

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[PHP-DEV] Re: "mixed up PHP" variant (Re: [PHP-DEV] named parameters?)

2005-04-19 Thread Jakub Vrana
Hendy Irawan wrote:
> I think it's nice to have a "risk your life" PHP version that merges
> all available patches that never got into the official PHP.

> Does something like this already exist?

Take a look at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/pat/ . It's a list of
not-yet-accepted patches. It's not so comfortable as RYL version but
can serve for the same demand.

Jakub Vrana

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: "mixed up PHP" variant (Re: [PHP-DEV] named parameters?)

2005-04-18 Thread Wez Furlong
> the power features of Power-PHP (not that it could be called Power-PHP
> without the blessing of Zend :)

The PHP Group, not Zend.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: "mixed up PHP" variant (Re: [PHP-DEV] named parameters?)

2005-04-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 13:34, Wez Furlong wrote:
> > the power features of Power-PHP (not that it could be called Power-PHP
> > without the blessing of Zend :)
> 
> The PHP Group, not Zend.

My bad and my apologies to the PHP Group.

Cheers,
Rob.
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