Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Hi Christian, On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > > I created a pull request at https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/2453 for > a version using the KeccakCodePackage version from > https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage which yields ~30 times faster > results for a simple test. > Nice work!! SHA3 is now faster than SHA2. Small String [yohgaki@dev php-src]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(0.46163821220398) real0m0.557s user0m0.471s sys0m0.086s [yohgaki@dev php-src]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha3-256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(0.57230806350708) real0m0.585s user0m0.579s sys0m0.006s Large String [yohgaki@dev php-src]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true);$v = str_repeat("a", 999); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha256", $v); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(4.6689560413361) real0m4.691s user0m4.675s sys0m0.009s [yohgaki@dev php-src]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true);$v = str_repeat("a", 999); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha3-256", $v); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(2.9090809822083) real0m2.928s user0m2.919s sys0m0.005s > I don't know whether the PHP maintainers prefer to keep the (very short) > inline reference implementation which is slow or whether the optimised > version from KeccakCodePackage with around a dozen files would be > acceptable. > > I put the (part which is used from the) KeccakCodePackage code (without > modifications!) in a separate directory under ext/hash/sha3 and I also > implemented switching between a 64bit and a 32bit version. Don't know if > this is necessary and following all the guidelines. > > Oh, I also only superficially scanned > https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage#under-which- > license-is-the-kcp-distributed > but it looked like it should be ok. Not an expert on this though ;-) > It's fine for me. I'll wait few weeks for more comments. If not, I'll merge your PR to master. I don't think we really need to merge it to released version. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
On a similarly superficial scan, I have no issues with this. The only tiny thing which gives me pause is https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/2453/files#diff-0bb62bbdac4073ae183a857299826533R24 as I don't recall 100% if that redefinition will leak out to other parts of the runtime (my instinct says it will, so that might need to live in a different spot). As long as the unit tests continue to pass (I assume they do) and the licensing on the bundled library is favorable (it seems to be), it's just one fast implementation in exchange for a slow one. -Sara On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > Am 05.04.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Yasuo Ohgaki : >> PHP's sha3 seems slower than it could be. > > I created a pull request at https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/2453 for a > version using the KeccakCodePackage version from > https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage which yields ~30 times faster > results for a simple test. > > I don't know whether the PHP maintainers prefer to keep the (very short) > inline reference implementation which is slow or whether the optimised > version from KeccakCodePackage with around a dozen files would be acceptable. > > I put the (part which is used from the) KeccakCodePackage code (without > modifications!) in a separate directory under ext/hash/sha3 and I also > implemented switching between a 64bit and a 32bit version. Don't know if this > is necessary and following all the guidelines. > > Oh, I also only superficially scanned > > https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage#under-which-license-is-the-kcp-distributed > but it looked like it should be ok. Not an expert on this though ;-) > > Regards, > - Chris > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Am 05.04.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Yasuo Ohgaki : > PHP's sha3 seems slower than it could be. I created a pull request at https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/2453 for a version using the KeccakCodePackage version from https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage which yields ~30 times faster results for a simple test. I don't know whether the PHP maintainers prefer to keep the (very short) inline reference implementation which is slow or whether the optimised version from KeccakCodePackage with around a dozen files would be acceptable. I put the (part which is used from the) KeccakCodePackage code (without modifications!) in a separate directory under ext/hash/sha3 and I also implemented switching between a 64bit and a 32bit version. Don't know if this is necessary and following all the guidelines. Oh, I also only superficially scanned https://github.com/gvanas/KeccakCodePackage#under-which-license-is-the-kcp-distributed but it looked like it should be ok. Not an expert on this though ;-) Regards, - Chris -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Hi Christian, On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: > Two things I noticed: > 1) As far as I understand Ruby (and as far as I tested it) this does not > execute the function at all. You probably mean something like > while $i > 0 do > Oops, forgot to add "== 0" [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t.rb #!/usr/bin/env ruby require 'digest/sha2' $i = 100 until $i == 0 do Digest::SHA2.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) $i -= 1 end [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t.rb real 0m1.790s user 0m1.596s sys 0m0.194s [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t2.rb #!/usr/bin/env ruby require 'digest/sha2' $i = 100 until $i == 0 do Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) $i -= 1 end [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t2.rb real 0m2.594s user 0m2.429s sys 0m0.165s PHP's sha3 seems slower than it could be. I knew DJB benchmark before the tests, so I was sloppy. > 2) For some reason the Ruby implementation yields different results, I > didn't track down why. > - hash("sha3-256", "abc"); => 3a985da74fe225b2045c172d6bd390 > bd855f086e3e9d525b46bfe24511431532 > which matches the test vector at http://www.di-mgt.com.au/sha_t > estvectors.html > - Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abc", 256) => > 4e03657aea45a94fc7d47ba826c8d667c0d1e6e33a64a036ec44f58fa12d6c45 > > For whatever reason this is, it means that you can't really compare those > two functions. > Nice finding. https://github.com/phusion/digest-sha3-ruby seems a little old. It may not implement final version. Whichever is wrong, we may be better look into this. Anyway, it seems someone is better to try to improve SHA3 performance. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
On 2017-04-03 14:44, Christian Schneider wrote: Am 01.04.2017 um 05:12 schrieb Yasuo Ohgaki : I noticed that our SHA-3 is inefficient. === Ruby SHA3-256 === [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t2.rb #!/usr/bin/env ruby require 'digest/sha2' $i = 100 until $i do Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) $i -= 1 end Two things I noticed: 1) As far as I understand Ruby (and as far as I tested it) this does not execute the function at all. Why am I not surprised... 2) For some reason the Ruby implementation yields different results, I didn't track down why. Here's another library, which actually works. https://rubygems.org/gems/sha3 Tests with that one: time ruby -e 'require "sha3"; 123456.times { SHA3::Digest::SHA256.hexdigest("abc") }' user0m1.597s sys 0m0.023s time php -r 'for ($i = 0; $i < 123456; ++$i) hash("sha3-256", "abc");' user0m2.497s sys 0m0.020s There's a small difference, but I wonder if anybody (except Yasuo) actually cares? -- Lauri Kenttä -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Am 01.04.2017 um 05:12 schrieb Yasuo Ohgaki : > I noticed that our SHA-3 is inefficient. > > === Ruby SHA3-256 === > [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t2.rb > #!/usr/bin/env ruby > > require 'digest/sha2' > > $i = 100 > until $i do > Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) > $i -= 1 > end Two things I noticed: 1) As far as I understand Ruby (and as far as I tested it) this does not execute the function at all. You probably mean something like while $i > 0 do 2) For some reason the Ruby implementation yields different results, I didn't track down why. - hash("sha3-256", "abc"); => 3a985da74fe225b2045c172d6bd390bd855f086e3e9d525b46bfe24511431532 which matches the test vector at http://www.di-mgt.com.au/sha_testvectors.html - Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abc", 256) => 4e03657aea45a94fc7d47ba826c8d667c0d1e6e33a64a036ec44f58fa12d6c45 For whatever reason this is, it means that you can't really compare those two functions. Regards, - Chris -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Hi Sara, On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > I noticed that our SHA-3 is inefficient. > > > Entirely possible. Feel free to improve it. :D I would like to, but it wouldn't happen in short time. I also would like to have SHAKE algorithm. Perhaps, hash_shake($also, $msg, $len [, $binary=false])? Anyone, please improve it :D Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net
Re: [PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > I noticed that our SHA-3 is inefficient. > Entirely possible. Feel free to improve it. :D -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] SHA3 is very slow
Hi all, I noticed that our SHA-3 is inefficient. === Ruby SHA3-256 === [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t2.rb #!/usr/bin/env ruby require 'digest/sha2' $i = 100 until $i do Digest::SHA3.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) $i -= 1 end [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t2.rb real 0m0.438s user 0m0.216s sys 0m0.222s [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t2.rb real 0m0.429s user 0m0.228s sys 0m0.202s [yohgaki@dev ~]$ === Ruby SHA2-256 === [yohgaki@dev ~]$ cat t.rb #!/usr/bin/env ruby require 'digest/sha2' $i = 100 until $i do Digest::SHA2.hexdigest("abcdedf", 256) $i -= 1 end [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t.rb real 0m0.431s user 0m0.228s sys 0m0.205s [yohgaki@dev ~]$ time ruby t.rb real 0m0.409s user 0m0.208s sys 0m0.203s === PHP master SHA3-256 === [yohgaki@dev PHP-master]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha3-256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(2.7503371238708) real 0m2.764s user 0m2.755s sys 0m0.005s [yohgaki@dev PHP-master]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha3-256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(2.8106999397278) real 0m2.831s user 0m2.823s sys 0m0.003s === PHP master SHA2-256 === [yohgaki@dev PHP-master]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(0.48856687545776) real 0m0.502s user 0m0.499s sys 0m0.002s [yohgaki@dev PHP-master]$ time ./php-bin -r '$s = microtime(true); for ($i = 0; $i < 100; $i++) { hash("sha256", "abcdefg"); } var_dump(microtime(true) - $s); ' float(0.48898410797119) real 0m0.505s user 0m0.499s sys 0m0.005s As you can see, PHP's SHA3 is about 6 times slower. According to DJB's benchmark, it seems SHA-3 could be as fast as SHA-2. https://bench.cr.yp.to/results-sha3.html Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net