As I mentioned a few days ago (I see the thread has been very active since so 
not sure people will remember) is that we'll try and take a deeper look at phar 
and some of the issues we raised. Also looking at this in parallel makes a lot 
of sense. We shouldn't be married to a specific implementation but should try 
and evaluate better what is really an optimal solution and can we solve it well 
so that it's useful for the broader community (Easily toolable, works with 
Apache, byte-code accelerators, etc...)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: LAUPRETRE François (P) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:23 AM
> To: Stas Malyshev; Stefan Priebsch
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] RE : [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3
> 
> > From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >> ...and phar is the best candidate I know for this.
> > 
> > I'd say the only one
> 
> NO, there is an alternate PHP package format. It solves every 
> issues you rose about phar (including the direct url access 
> to a virtual file). Its name is PHK and it is available at 
> http://phk.tekwire.net. The site includes an extensive 
> documentation and several demo packages, including PHPUnit, 
> the Zend Framework, The ZF documentation, Smarty,... Please 
> also note that a PHK pakage embeds everything needed to 
> manage its internal subfiles, avoiding the need for a an 
> external (pear?) tool.
> 
> I proposed this tool some months ago and I was severely 
> kicked out by Marcus and friends because they took it as an 
> attack against phar... It is not, it is an alternative. And, 
> after reading all your reactions to his proposal of 
> integrating phar into PHP core, I pretend that every issues 
> you rose are solved in PHK.
> 
> I didn't want to talk about it anymore on this list because 
> nobody seemed to be interested in the subject but, as Marcus 
> himself started it again, maybe it is time for some of you to 
> make a comparison... And I cannot let you say that phar is 
> the only existing package format for PHP !
> 
> Please note that, on the performance side, I am currently 
> working on a runtime accelerator for PHK. It will be an 
> OPTIONAL tool, which, as first tests show, will allow to 
> reduce the overhead by at least 90 %, allowing PHK packages 
> to run in production environments without significant 
> performance degradation.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Francois
>  
> 
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