Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 17:46 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote: On 8/27/07, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're still far away from a working garbage collector which is production quality. Im sure it has bugs, but last time I tested the circular repository it was working really fine and the save of memory was really big ;-) Yes, but Andi is desperate to have at least something else than just unicode support in PHP 6. No worries, this will go in 5.3. --Jani -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
This is based on our experience with making changes in the memory manager (significantly smaller changes than this one) and how long it takes to stabilize them. Andi -Original Message- From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:58 AM To: Cristian Rodriguez Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3? On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 17:46 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote: On 8/27/07, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're still far away from a working garbage collector which is production quality. Im sure it has bugs, but last time I tested the circular repository it was working really fine and the save of memory was really big ;-) Yes, but Andi is desperate to have at least something else than just unicode support in PHP 6. No worries, this will go in 5.3. --Jani -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
Sebastian, Just so you guys don't get the wrong idea, I have a garbage collector book sitting on my shelf which I bought 2-3 years ago as I was thinking of implementing this. Unfortunately I hit some issues and edge cases and didn't have enough time to spend on this. So I'm definitely not against a garbage collector. It's something I think would be very good for PHP even if it were optional. I do think though that we need an opportunity to review it, test it benchmark it. Again, whoever has done work in his life on memory managers knows how sensitive they are. David, do you have a patch against PHP 5.2? For some reason I don't think I got the updated patch although Derick said you sent it out. Thanks, Andi -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:06 AM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3? Andi Gutmans schrieb: This is based on our experience with making changes in the memory manager (significantly smaller changes than this one) and how long it takes to stabilize them. Then we should make sure that the garbage collector goes into HEAD ASAP, should we not? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian- bergmann.de/ GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think we're still far away from a working garbage collector which is production quality. At least last time we were discussing it. This should still remain a PHP 6 item if we can actually make it works in an acceptable way. Have you checked the latest patch that david send here? He updated quite a bit to address all the issues that were raised as far as I know. Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
On 8/27/07, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're still far away from a working garbage collector which is production quality. Im sure it has bugs, but last time I tested the circular repository it was working really fine and the save of memory was really big ;-) -- http://www.kissofjudas.net/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3?
I think we're still far away from a working garbage collector which is production quality. At least last time we were discussing it. This should still remain a PHP 6 item if we can actually make it works in an acceptable way. Andi -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:37 AM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What should be in 5.3? Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: [...] - New Garbage Collector (GSoC) - Late Static Binding -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian- bergmann.de/ GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
